MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

I think if you want to give athletics-based aid then there are two other divisions of the NCAA and an NAIA that are great homes for you. Division III is entirely about the exact lack of athletics-based aid.

[MR. PAC]

So who is going to be at the Cabrini vs. Vern game?

[old ends]

PAC stats, for conference games only, look good overall
http://www.thepaconline.org/stats2007/Mens.Basketball/CONFONLY.HTM

Alvernia leads in scoring offense with a healthy 85.8 ave/game. That is a 10.6 point lead over Immaculata.

Misericordia leads in scoring defense allowing 60.6 ave/game.

have fun with the stats

[WolfPAC]

Point taken.  What about the prospect of another division regarding athletics as the variable changing the mission of DIII ?

What happened in Nashville? ?

[WolfPAC]

So who is going to be at the Cabrini vs. Vern game?

I am trying to be there.... I want to see the womens game as well.   Hoping Jon will be there (hahaha)   Maybe we can all go to the Graveyard when the Cavs pull the upset.     

Put some hands in King's face and let Shawell score his 50 pts. Let Reid bang inside all day and grab some rebounds with the other guys making some 3's and it is quite possible the Vern could be fooled by the Cavs rather easily.

Seriously, it should be a good game unless one of the team shoots poorly or chokes on the charity line.   Remember all those 88 fouls last time at Cabrini.

Hope everyone gets to witness a good battle.

[Jon]

WolfPAC,

There is plenty of information on a new division available on the NCAA website.  Jack Copeland wrote a brief recap on the discussion in the latest edition of the NCAA News.  Poke around at ncaa.org to find just about anything you're interested in.

[Jon]

"Rather easily" is an interesting choice of words.

I'll be at both games on Saturday and the webcasts, as always, are available through either our website or the front page at d3hoops.com.

Graveyard....Cemetery...that's your call.  I think you need some Dzik aura to get in the door over there.  I'd rather just grab a slice at Rosa's on the way home, or stop by Trooper's for the hand carved Beef-n-Cheese. 

[Pat Coleman]

There's also a rather large discussion on the boards titled "Future of Division III."

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?board=1495.0

[WolfPAC]

Jon,   

Had a fun time up at the PE center.   The hospitality was warm as well.

The Crusaders were just a better team, the Cavs could not dribble the ball and they seemed to have handed it over many times.  I thought the first half (25-25) was an indication of what was to come but not so....

Time for dinner..

[Jon]

Wolfy,

Thanks for stopping in.  Coach Miller had some extra leftover Rosa's Pizza around 5:30, but I'm sure you were already well on your way home by then.

The Cavs have a great building block in Washington...the future could be bright.  Good luck the rest of the way.

[MR. PAC]

Alvrenia is on a roll. It is gonna be hard to beat them at home.

[Booker]

For those of you who have written to say that Herenda is a good coach with a lot of passion, you are having the wool pulled over your eyes!

I saw another Cabrini game tonight and I am convinced that this coach is worse than the last one. He is more of an egotist than the last guy, but will get a free pass this year to do the crazy things he does because he has connected himself with the local basketball community, reconnected with the basketball alumni, and gives the impression that he knows a lot about basketball, not to mention that he has that all important Division 1 experience beside his name which taught him one thing...how to stomp his foot!

In the meantime the players, 3 of whom who have had 3 coaches in 4 years, and most who went through last year's mess, are enduring the humiliation and frustration of another season that is all about the coach, not the players, while the underclassmen are probably wondering what they have gotten themselves into.

What basketball coach spends time playing to the crowd, instructing the fans and cheerleaders to get up and cheer, and then turns around and screams at his bench players who are not cheering loud enough. For crying out loud, coach your team Herenda.

And while you are at it, how about coming up with a rotation of some sort so that the players know their roles...how in the name of God could any player on that Cabrini team know what his role is. That is, until the second half of an important game. That is when the players who should have been in during the first half for a reasonable amount of time, and been part of a regular rotation are asked to suck it up and come in and win the game, and then blamed for the loss when they do things every player does...miss a shot, foul or turn the ball over. It is never the coach's fault.

What college coach plays all 15 players, or in tonight's case, 14, in the first half of a game. What is he trying to prove. This is not biddy basketball. Freshman do not expect to play, and let's be truthful, there are going to be players on every college team who just don't play. That is what intramurals is for.

For at least the 6th time tonight Herenda coached the team to a loss. The box scores confirm this. Look at the minutes and the list of players who have played in the Widener, Neumann, Scranton, Alvernia, and Lycoming games, not to mention the first half of tonight's game.  When you are up 10 points in the first half at Eastern you leave your starters in, or at least use a rotation of players who are ready to be on the court, and pile it on. Herenda is the stereotypical rally killer. Shooters are hot, kill the rally by taking them out, players (some) make a mistake and they are looking over their shoulders to see who is coming in for them. Half the time the players on the court are double checking  to see who they are on the court with because there is no sense or logic and certainly no expectation of whom you would think should  be on the court during the first half of an important league game. How could that possibly be happening at this point in the season!

Let's hope for the players sake that they win some of the important games down the stretch and make the play-offs for their own dignity, and then the new administration endorses the value of the basketball program and makes a decision to get someone to coach this team who knows what coaching is all about...the players not himself.

[Pat Coleman]

There's already a PAC board.

[Ralph Turner]

There's already a PAC board.

Merged!

[WolfPAC]

Oh boy!  Cabrini has some issues.   I think Cabrini was in every game this year and could have won at least 3 more games.

Glenn Washington is their franchise player.  Seems the players are a little tentative.  Whether it is because of the coach I don't know.  Eastern should have never won that game.   Give EU's staff credit though, they put their team in position to win and they executed.

Hard to replace a legendary coach that dominated the other coaches in the PAC.   This is the result when an administration pulls the plug because of some stupid power struggle.  Only the students end up suffering. 


Perhaps the new coach at Cabrini is taking a different perspective.  One through the lens of the future. Evaluating what he needs to go after in recruiting talent, skills, and attitude to win when all these players are gone.  If Washington is any indication of how he recruits there should be much to look forward to at Cabrini.   Good things take time.  The natives are restless and the players, students, and fans want to win NOW especially when every game given away could be the one that knocks the Cavs out of the playoffs.

From a Cabrini student's perspective.....  I am sure it must be so humiliating to drop a game to Eastern.   Cavs basketball is a work in progress.    Thank God for their women's team.