MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

chairman · February 05, 2008, 10:45:13 PM

Surprising too, because the Falcons are usually tough on the road.

In all seriousness. The fact that Marywood and Centenary are not taking any wins at all in the rest of the league seriously changes the play-off paradigm in the PAC. Usually you think with six of nine making it that an 8-8 team will make it and that 9-7 is a lock. I'm running it through the computer, but I am pretty sure there are a couple scenarios (that aren't completely far-fetched) where a 9-7 team could miss the play offs.

I think the basket in front of the visitor's bench at Gwynedd might have better lighting. It certainly seemed that way when Eastern was there.

hIdeUmm · February 05, 2008, 11:08:38 PM

not only verse eastern but last night as well

Jon · February 06, 2008, 10:22:10 AM

The Shawn Merion trade reminded me to update the PAC Matrix. Surf on over to the Alvernia website to see the 2008 version.

2008 PAC Matrix

WolfPAC · February 06, 2008, 01:17:36 PM

Quote from: Jon on February 06, 2008, 10:22:10 AM
The Shawn Merion trade reminded me to update the PAC Matrix. Surf on over to the Alvernia website to see the 2008 version.

2008 PAC Matrix

Thanx Jon,

The next few days will budge the needle as you say or will hold the needle back. Seems like the middle has 2 common opponents Marywood/ Centenary, then each other. Should be very interesting. At least the top 2 are nailed down for the playoffs. Hoping the Cavs win 4 games somehow and manage to edge into the playoffs to upset someone. Looks like the Macs and the Vern again barring injuries.

chizwiz · February 06, 2008, 03:39:21 PM

Jon, thanks for the matrix. Always look forward to it.

Gotta say a few things about the EU loss to Neumann on Monday. First, props to Neumann - they played well, esp. Patrick. He really turned it on right away. Neumann beat EU in every aspect of the game it seemed.

However, I was really disappointed with our seniors, and I'm not using the phrase senior leadership. I think four of our seniors who usu. get major minutes had a sum total of 6pts., 6rebs., and 9to's. That's disgusting. I sure hope they can figure out that in the next 6 games, their legacy (albeit very small) can be bolstered by solid, tough, consistent play. They can beat any team in the conference on a good day.

Chairman, while I might be inappropriate on this site, at least I'm not inappropriate with my athletes. You know of what I speak.

chizwiz · February 06, 2008, 03:41:19 PM

And I want to give credit where it's due. Chadwin is running a great program up there in IU land. Keep it up. Your team is up there with Alvernia for two years now. Props to the Macs. (just lose to EU.) For all you new Immac. supporters - welcome.

WolfPAC · February 06, 2008, 04:25:44 PM

Quote from: chizwiz on February 06, 2008, 03:41:19 PM
And I want to give credit where it's due. Chadwin is running a great program up there in IU land. Keep it up. Your team is up there with Alvernia for two years now. Props to the Macs. (just lose to EU.) For all you new Immac. supporters - welcome.

Chiz, its getting tight down the wire. Looking forward to the EU Cabrini game which could determine the fate of either team on the 18th. Hey Chiz, who do you coach?

chairman · February 06, 2008, 04:51:12 PM

Thanks for the matrix Jon, did you do one for the women as well?

The PAC schedule is quite the enigma. For a team to play a meaningful regular season game on a Thursday night and then turn around and play a play-off game in less than 36 hours doesn't seem to respect the playoff process. Also it seems that the out of balance situation really works against any level of predictability down the stretch. To play the same team twice in the waning weeks of the season doesn't seem right either.

It looks like nine wins is in, but there are still situations where a nine win team might be outside.

Jon · February 06, 2008, 04:57:19 PM

You mean you didn't see the link on the women's PAC room? (Sarcasm seems to be your pleasure, so I went with it)

To answer honestly I haven't gotten to it yet.

Pretty sure I'm not a big fan of a schedule that has two teams playing for the first time this late in the season with a second game still to come.

Both games on the 21st will have teams turning right around to play again two days later. I concur that doesn't seem good for business. Even if you lobbied for an evening game on Saturday it doesn't seem the route to take.

WolfPAC · February 06, 2008, 04:58:33 PM

Quote from: chairman on February 06, 2008, 04:51:12 PM
Thanks for the matrix Jon, did you do one for the women as well?

The PAC schedule is quite the enigma. For a team to play a meaningful regular season game on a Thursday night and then turn around and play a play-off game in less than 36 hours doesn't seem to respect the playoff process. Also it seems that the out of balance situation really works against any level of predictability down the stretch. To play the same team twice in the waning weeks of the season doesn't seem right either.

It looks like nine wins is in, but there are still situations where a nine win team might be outside.

Chairman

Makes the prize more sweeter! Did the realignment of the PAC really change the schedule enough to cause this enigma?

WolfPAC · February 06, 2008, 05:03:56 PM

Quote from: Jon on February 06, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
You mean you didn't see the link on the women's PAC room? (Sarcasm seems to be your pleasure, so I went with it)

To answer honestly I haven't gotten to it yet.

Pretty sure I'm not a big fan of a schedule that has two teams playing for the first time this late in the season with a second game still to come.

Both games on the 21st will have teams turning right around to play again two days later. I concur that doesn't seem good for business. Even if you lobbied for an evening game on Saturday it doesn't seem the route to take.

Jon, Will next season cure this problem or complicate it worse? How can a team be ready enough for playoff form without time to prepare and geographic concerns as well influencing them. Doesn't seem fair for a team that has travel issues. We need the D1 approach.

Jon · February 06, 2008, 05:09:45 PM

Not sure what the plan for next year would be. All I know is the Freedom only takes the top four and they have been in a Wednesday/Saturday rotation for weeks.

I am tempted to insert something about how this could benefit a bye team if the #3 or #4 ends up playing on two-days rest, but looking forward I'm not sure there are any teams in the top six you would rather play or rather not play. This whole thing, soup to nuts, is still wide open.

chairman · February 06, 2008, 05:29:55 PM

On my matrix the lady Eagles were eliminated in mid-January, so I stopped.

In response to the idea that the top two spots are nailed down, I think that there are definitely two teams with inside tracks to those spots, and Immaculata's comeback on Monday was a huge road step in that direction, I don't think any spot is sewn up.

Nine teams battling for four spots should make for an interesting year next year.

chizwiz · February 06, 2008, 06:22:48 PM

Wolf,

I don't coach a team.

Keep trying

Quote from: WolfPAC on February 06, 2008, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: chizwiz on February 06, 2008, 03:41:19 PM
And I want to give credit where it's due. Chadwin is running a great program up there in IU land. Keep it up. Your team is up there with Alvernia for two years now. Props to the Macs. (just lose to EU.) For all you new Immac. supporters - welcome.

Chiz, its getting tight down the wire. Looking forward to the EU Cabrini game which could determine the fate of either team on the 18th. Hey Chiz, who do you coach?

Jon · February 06, 2008, 06:41:59 PM

Just a quick look at the rest of the schedule and I think nine wins will get you in and possibly even seven wins isn't a guaranteed out. There are some brutal schedules left in the final weeks, and every night has multiple games of interest.

Good thing I have Duke/Carolina to get me through till Thursday.