MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

How about the New-Pen League?  They could get Bic as a major corporate sponsor and move the conference offices to the Keystone campus in LaPlume.

This obviously has no chance of happening but I wanted to post that I got a big laugh out of it.

[lefty2]

Thanks Pat.

The best part is that Keystone really is located in LaPlume.

[Warren Thompson]

Thanks Pat.

The best part is that Keystone really is located in LaPlume.

Is LaPlume as much of a Pennsylvania paradise as is Annville?    {Kindly advise ....}

[WolfPAC]

Glad somebody can make a joke out of it ! !

What a joke this conference is becoming.... the schools leaving have the right idea.  Guess this is the last year of a PAC team having a shot at advancing in a round of the NCAA tourney.

None of them can even think about getting past Widener.  Especially with another Cabrini grad and former player coaching the team to a 17-4 record so far.   What a joke this will be.... enjoy Jon's matrix while it lasts and the PAC and the name officially ends.   What a shame.

Going down down down................. birds of a feather flock together.
Time to become INDEPENDENT

[WolfPAC]

NO  senior members, I know its not the head coach so don't correct me.  It is someone who actually recruits for them and all over the country so they rank as a national program.   Seems the PAC or whatever it will be is losing ground fast and falling behind.

Why would anyone want to go to the new noname conference and play athletics with the price of the schools if they were not getting academic priorities as a consideration.   Is this how they pull the plug on a conference that is weak or what??

Can't anyone see the writing on the wall ? 

[chairman]

Wouldn't give Widener too much credit to this point. They cruised through a soft non-conference schedule and are taking it on the chin a bit in the Commonwealth.

I think Independent is not a good way to go either... Lincoln chose to go DII rather than hang out in the nether world of independent DIII hoops.

PAC teams will be able to schedule aggressively out of conference if they want to.

[WolfPAC]

Wouldn't give Widener too much credit to this point. They cruised through a soft non-conference schedule and are taking it on the chin a bit in the Commonwealth.

I think Independent is not a good way to go either... Lincoln chose to go DII rather than hang out in the nether world of independent DIII hoops.

PAC teams will be able to schedule aggressively out of conference if they want to.

Chairman,

If a Pac team schedules aggressively out of the conference, are there not rules or compliance in place regarding how many times they must play the conference teams.   Can they only play them once and play better teams?  How do they win their conference if the conference records count?

If a team plays better teams overall and has a better record overall but finished with a lower conference record and missed playoffs because it did not play enough conference opponents what happens?   Please forgive me if I do not read you clearly.

[chairman]

Only 16 Conference games required. You have to play them. But a team that wants to reach a national level recruiting-wise can twist that on it's head a little bit by scheduling nine games against top-level national competition. No at-large bids for PAC teams anyways, so stop scheduling Penn State-Berks and Lancaster Bible and try to do battle with the big boys. You will take a few more losses, but you might also be ready to play inthe NCAA Tournament if and when you win the PAC.

You do have to play the 16 League games... What you choose to do with the others is up to you.

[Jon]

WolfMaster,

Sometimes it seems as though you fell outta the crazy tree right before a posting tirade.  I would certainly agree with the chair on your proposed Independent path.  That's going to be a tougher way to get in than winning the Conference Formerly Known as the PAC for the foreseeable future.

As far as winning NCAA Tournament games, even Billy Donovan admitted that's as much about match-ups as anything else.  Maybe you get a bunny in the "2-3" game at a four-team, first-round site and find momentum to beat the host.  It's a single elimination tournament.  You don't necessarily have to be the best team on the floor that night, you just have to have more points when the clock runs out [see: New York Football Giants].

I'm also on board with the tough non-conference schedule.  You're obviously not going to hit the road to play Amherst, Rochester, Hope, and Augustana, but start making calls to in-region teams that are perennial playoff teams in their own conferences.

If you're afraid of the conference becoming so weak, start to win it every year.  Yearly NCAA Tournament games should be enticing to recruits.  Then, once you separate yourself from the other conference teams, stack yourself up against the other teams in the region.

That's my plan in a nutshell...I facetiously submit that as my initial interview for any coaching vacancies.

Did I mention how big Monday night is in PAC hoops?

[chairman]

Well said Jon... In another 18 posts or so I will applaud such lucidity.

Big night on Eagle Rd. Monday. Four teams within 500 yards of each other for two games with playoff implications.

Did I mention Eastern swept a doubleheader on Saturday. That hasn't happened in quite some time.

Also, I am putting a call out for Booker. If you are out there, please check in.

[WolfPAC]

WolfMaster,

Sometimes it seems as though you fell outta the crazy tree right before a posting tirade.  I would certainly agree with the chair on your proposed Independent path.  That's going to be a tougher way to get in than winning the Conference Formerly Known as the PAC for the foreseeable future.

As far as winning NCAA Tournament games, even Billy Donovan admitted that's as much about match-ups as anything else.  Maybe you get a bunny in the "2-3" game at a four-team, first-round site and find momentum to beat the host.  It's a single elimination tournament.  You don't necessarily have to be the best team on the floor that night, you just have to have more points when the clock runs out [see: New York Football Giants].

I'm also on board with the tough non-conference schedule.  You're obviously not going to hit the road to play Amherst, Rochester, Hope, and Augustana, but start making calls to in-region teams that are perennial playoff teams in their own conferences.

If you're afraid of the conference becoming so weak, start to win it every year.  Yearly NCAA Tournament games should be enticing to recruits.  Then, once you separate yourself from the other conference teams, stack yourself up against the other teams in the region.

That's my plan in a nutshell...I facetiously submit that as my initial interview for any coaching vacancies.

Did I mention how big Monday night is in PAC hoops?

Jon & Chair,

Thank you,  I always thought it worked that way but with the future of diminishing quality teams playing in the PAC the way I read Chairs post I thought because the conference was not strong enough they some way allowed a better team to schedule more out of conference and still win the conference without playing a certain number of games.

Guys thanks for bearing with me.  Jon your formula is logical, lucid, and the
normal procedure of a good coach.   Bottom line is a team that is good in a weak conference can separate itself to get in the tourney.   I was also a little disgruntled at the big guys last night when I posted and was not happy with my choice of dinner last night as well so please understand.

TONIGHT is the night to move the meter.

Anybody predictions on the Cavs game ......  Hope there is a full house and a nice battle not a blow out by the Knights.  Depends on how defense and tempo play out  which we all heard before.    I think the first time the Cavs played Neumann they were more green and had no identity.  Now it could be a different story.  Seemed the Cavs played well enough to beat the Knights but could not shoot fouls.  They had them confused on defense with a zone and man-man switch in transitions.   Guess it will be live and die by the 3 for one of the teams.

If the Cavs win they could still lose to Misery or EU so anything is possible for getting in.  Jon, will be curious to see the new matrix after tonight.  I was kind of hoping the Vern wins the conference in their last year to be honest unless of course the Cavs were facing them.

The lady Knights are in second place as well behing the lady Cavs which should be somewhat of a good game.  Hope I get to the game and see both of them.  If anyone else is there including Mailsy I hope to see you. Depends on work for me.    I was outside inspecting a job at 6:45 am and man was it cold!

[hIdeUmm]

ill root 4 the cavs tonight even tho that game is irrelevent to the MACS at THIS point in time... i think it is  good for the MACS that GMC plays the bottom 2 teams cause i dont know if the Macs want to see them till at least the final. I want alvernia to win... yes this is a hard thing to say... but the more loses Miseri has the better the chances... Right?Good thing for the MACS is they are in control and a solid outcome this week can seal 1st if im not mistaken... lets not count our chickens before they hatch tho... LETS GO CAVS AND CRUSDAERS!!!! why not???

[mailsy]

WolfMaster,

Sometimes it seems as though you fell outta the crazy tree right before a posting tirade.  I would certainly agree with the chair on your proposed Independent path.  That's going to be a tougher way to get in than winning the Conference Formerly Known as the PAC for the foreseeable future.

As far as winning NCAA Tournament games, even Billy Donovan admitted that's as much about match-ups as anything else.  Maybe you get a bunny in the "2-3" game at a four-team, first-round site and find momentum to beat the host.  It's a single elimination tournament.  You don't necessarily have to be the best team on the floor that night, you just have to have more points when the clock runs out [see: New York Football Giants].

I'm also on board with the tough non-conference schedule.  You're obviously not going to hit the road to play Amherst, Rochester, Hope, and Augustana, but start making calls to in-region teams that are perennial playoff teams in their own conferences.

If you're afraid of the conference becoming so weak, start to win it every year.  Yearly NCAA Tournament games should be enticing to recruits.  Then, once you separate yourself from the other conference teams, stack yourself up against the other teams in the region.

That's my plan in a nutshell...I facetiously submit that as my initial interview for any coaching vacancies.

Did I mention how big Monday night is in PAC hoops?

Jon & Chair,

Thank you,  I always thought it worked that way but with the future of diminishing quality teams playing in the PAC the way I read Chairs post I thought because the conference was not strong enough they some way allowed a better team to schedule more out of conference and still win the conference without playing a certain number of games.

Guys thanks for bearing with me.  Jon your formula is logical, lucid, and the
normal procedure of a good coach.   Bottom line is a team that is good in a weak conference can separate itself to get in the tourney.   I was also a little disgruntled at the big guys last night when I posted and was not happy with my choice of dinner last night as well so please understand.

TONIGHT is the night to move the meter.

Anybody predictions on the Cavs game ......  Hope there is a full house and a nice battle not a blow out by the Knights.  Depends on how defense and tempo play out  which we all heard before.    I think the first time the Cavs played Neumann they were more green and had no identity.  Now it could be a different story.  Seemed the Cavs played well enough to beat the Knights but could not shoot fouls.  They had them confused on defense with a zone and man-man switch in transitions.   Guess it will be live and die by the 3 for one of the teams.

If the Cavs win they could still lose to Misery or EU so anything is possible for getting in.  Jon, will be curious to see the new matrix after tonight.  I was kind of hoping the Vern wins the conference in their last year to be honest unless of course the Cavs were facing them.

The lady Knights are in second place as well behing the lady Cavs which should be somewhat of a good game.  Hope I get to the game and see both of them.  If anyone else is there including Mailsy I hope to see you. Depends on work for me.    I was outside inspecting a job at 6:45 am and man was it cold!

WolfPAC,

I should be at the game if my appointment gets done early.  I won't be there for the start of the game.  But should be there no later than the start of the second.  Hopefully clients will be very cooperative and I'll be done earlier, if not I might miss the whole game.  Go Cavs!!

[lefty2]

The PAC got some recognition on the d3hoops.com All-Decade with Misericordia's Willie Chandler being named to the third team.

It's on the front page - here's the link:  http://www.d3hoops.com/all-american/men-alldecade.html

[MR. PAC]

Alvernia gets a big win  against Miseri.Looks like  the mighty macs are going to lose against the eagles. That means the vern and the macs will be tied for first place.If both teams would win against each other, and still be tied for first place, what would be the tie breaker?