MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[mailsy]

They are playing for their own enjoyment, not ours.  We just get to go along for the ride.
Just because a team didn't meet expectations - theirs or ours - doesn't make it right to rip them.

Good point lefty2.  We are there just for the "ride."  We should be there to encourage effort.  Congratulate them when they win and be a support when they don't.

[Flyer]

Actually this is D3 and the men and women are there to get an education first. How would Chiz feel if it were his son or daughter playing? 
I feel for Chiz though... his passion is high and he cares about the sport for his school.  Kind of how I felt when I was holding onto the bandwagon with one hand until Mailsy, Chair, and Jon rescued me.  Anybody know where Cabrini is playing yet??   I just hope we get to go to the Vern somehow.   Jon I know I am dreaming but the ride would be fun. 

Its all about the fun fun fun fun fun fun for us while the student athletes work their tails off.  Gotta admire all of them.

[Flyer]

Chiz,

Imagine how it felt for the alumni, and students of Cabrini when we all got screwed out of having the coach with the winningest program in D3 and just missing his 500th win because of some ridiculous power struggle with puppets.

Have to move on though and battle through it despite it all.   Now it is just starting to get better even though the Cavs are working their butts off and have nothing to show for it sometimes.   They have worked just as hard as the other schools with top seeds and coaches but are just hanging on for the playoffs.  EU is working just as hard but as Lefty says sometimes the little things just don' t happen at the right time.   

Keep your head up.  It will only make your team better.

[chairman]

Lefty--

I would not disagree with Woodruff being named COY. His players have performed at much higher level than they did the year before, I think the Misericordia team had some good things going for it in returning nearly the entire core from last year. Baumunk, Hornak, and Roa are all really solid players who are overlooked in some things, but really play well together and mix in well with the rest of the players on the squad.

Alvernia was picked to finish first, but they lost last year's POTY and a super point guard. The Crusaders played with a very short rotation and still managed to overcome injuries to Westmorland and win down the stretch. Miller didn't get the award last year because of the argument that they were simply the most talented team in the league and Immac made huge strides. I had no problem with that, but I also think that if a team is the "most talented" team year in and year out, then that coach probably needs to get the award every other year or so.  I think either choice would be a good one.

It will be interesting to see where the chips fall when the coach's vote.

[MR. PAC]

Congrats to the Vern for winning their thrid straight PAC regular season championship. This was not an easy feat, especially when everyone is giving their best effort against you.

Which brings me to my next point for COY. I agree with Jon and Lefty2 that Miseri has had a decent year, but does this deserve coach of the year is where I disagree. Jon, I thought that staying close only counts in horseshoes and Lefty2, if you go with your theory with using preseason rankings you could make a case for a team in any league that did better than their preseason ranking.

With the injuries and illnesses that Alvernia has had to overcome this year, I think this was Coach Miller's (and staff) best coaching job yet.

[MR. PAC]

                            Here are my all PAC picks



                                      First team


Shawell-Averaging over 20,also on the best team with the best record. LOCK FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR.

Finklea-very good player.Had a 1,000 as a junior.

Baumunk- smart player.Very skilled. Reach a 1,000 as a Junior.

King-good shooter,hit some clutch shots.He is also on the best team with the best record.That's why they win.

Smith-picked smith because the team needs a center.


                                   Second Team


Washington-LOCK FOR FRESHMEN OF THE YEAR. Best 3pt shooter in the PAC. very talented.

Tally- great shooter.When they played at the vern he had 32 and looked really good.

Patrick-good 3pt shooter.Can score when he wants.

Reid-reach a 1,000.Sometimes unstoppable inside.

Hitchens-played very well against the vern.Had a decent year.


POY-Shawell
ROY-Washington
COY-Miller

ALL LOCKS.

[lefty2]

Coach Miller has obviously done a good job keeping the tradition going at Alvernia.

But, it's been said that "good players make good coaches."

My point was that Coach Woodruff has probably gotten more out of less as compared to most other COY candidates.

As far as winning coaches getting overlooked, the Misericordia softball team has played in the PAC championship game 12 straight seasons and has yet to hang a COY plaque on her wall.

[lefty2]

Check that, Slocum was PAC COY in 2005.

[Jon]

I find it interesting that the same people who will do the voting for postseason awards, league coaches, took little stock in the Cougars returning all players (5th place preseason) and the Crusaders losing Etzel and Finger (1st place, 8-of-9 1st place votes).  I think that logic should lead to Shawell being a unanimous player of the year selection.

I'll be interested to see who the coaches pick for coach of the year.  I see the Vern staff operate in the day in, day out grind...I think it would be hard for any staff to work harder.  They have obviously done a terrific job recruiting (which sometimes people want to count against you in COY voting) to have Shawell and King, who could both easily being playing in a higher division, and they work very hard to prepare for every opponent.  I would not be at all surprised to find Miller's name on the award this season.

Chair, Misericordia may have a trio of "solid" players, but after Baumunk there isn't any discussion of any other player on the roster that is being talked about for all conference.  When teams in the league prepare for conference games they fear things like stopping Shawell/King or Wroten/Smith/Talley or Reid/Washington or even Hitchens/Patrick.  The Cougars play hard in their system and force you to make jump shots to beat them...which only the Crusaders have done twice.

[chairman]

I would agree with you on all that. My point would be that Miller and the Alvernia staff should not be denied recognition for what I think is a terrific coaching job just because they were perceived to be more talented.

[Flyer]

I find it interesting that the same people who will do the voting for postseason awards, league coaches, took little stock in the Cougars returning all players (5th place preseason) and the Crusaders losing Etzel and Finger (1st place, 8-of-9 1st place votes).  I think that logic should lead to Shawell being a unanimous player of the year selection.

I'll be interested to see who the coaches pick for coach of the year.  I see the Vern staff operate in the day in, day out grind...I think it would be hard for any staff to work harder.  They have obviously done a terrific job recruiting (which sometimes people want to count against you in COY voting) to have Shawell and King, who could both easily being playing in a higher division, and they work very hard to prepare for every opponent.  I would not be at all surprised to find Miller's name on the award this season.

Chair, Misericordia may have a trio of "solid" players, but after Baumunk there isn't any discussion of any other player on the roster that is being talked about for all conference.  When teams in the league prepare for conference games they fear things like stopping Shawell/King or Wroten/Smith/Talley or Reid/Washington or even Hitchens/Patrick.  The Cougars play hard in their system and force you to make jump shots to beat them...which only the Crusaders have done twice.

Lets see who wins the PAC and decide the COY.  Could be a surprise.  If Miseri wins the PAC Woodruff deserves the honor.   If the Vern wins Miller deserves the honor.
If the MACs win Chadwin deserves the honor.  IF GMC wins it then Baron deserves the honor.  Could be some surprises this year, and don't count out EU yet.

[Jon]

FlyGuy,

I believe the voting will be in by the time the PAC Championship is decided, so feel free to toss your vote to Miller for the Crusaders winning the regular season.

[Flyer]

FlyGuy,

I believe the voting will be in by the time the PAC Championship is decided, so feel free to toss your vote to Miller for the Crusaders winning the regular season.

I cast my vote for Miller and a leftover slice of pizza after the Crusaders win the PAC in Reading.

[Jon]

Flyer,

I'm sure there will be plenty of Rosa's Pizza around here all week.  Feel free to swing by for a slice.

[chizwiz]

Well, the EU players have completely disappointed me.  FT's, baby, FT's!  NO leadership, either.  Does EU even have a captain?  It seems not.  The only way EU gets into the PAC playoffs is if Neumann loses, cuz there is no way EU beats Immaculata in its present condition.  Let's say Neumann does lose (somebody figure those odds please, and does Centenary even have the brains to realize it can be a spoiler?), EU will not have a chance in the first playoff game.  Take the timer out, cuz this goose is cooked!  Good luck, PAC.  EU will miss you; we are already looking to the MAC to get beat up even more.  I think I might even become an Alvernia fan.  At least I know what to expect from the Crusaders - toughness and a winning attitude.

When I wrote this, I was expressing my feelings about the performance, effort, etc. of EU's players.  Making a statement about how EU will do in the playoffs (if it gets there), v. Immaculata, or in the MAC was more rhetorical than anything.  Of course I am going to be an EU fan and not an Alvernia fan.  I wrote these things knowing that some players read this and know who I am.  While they might not respect me any more, my hope at the time was that they would see this and know that they need to step it up for the game tonight and hopefully in the conference playoffs.

It seems that I miscommunicated and overstated, and in doing so I offended many.  It was wrong of me to write such things.  To anyone offended and/or hurt, I apologize for being so harsh, sarcastic, and insensitive.  To the EU team and associated community, I apologize and wish the best for you.  I hope that my love for the program, players, coaches, etc. can still be seen and felt, however misguided it is.

EU men - best of luck in tonight's game.  Go Eagles!