MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference

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kiltedbryan

Halftime in Marietta:

Capital 43
Marietta 40

Capital had a double-digit lead for a good part of the first half, thanks to good shooting and some poor defense by Marietta.  Cap's DJ Frazier seems to really present a match-up challenge for the Pioneers defense of his quickness and dribble penetration.

Marietta closes the half very strongly, though, closing the lead to just 3.  Cap was up 12 with about 3 mins to go.

sac

Quote from: D3BASKETBALLFAN on January 10, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
What is going on at Ohio Northern ?   They are usually at the top of the OAC, & now they already have five losses.

They were picked 7th this year

kiltedbryan

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Final
Capital 82
Marietta 74

Capital picks up the significant road win.  Marietta held a small lead for much of the second half, never more than 4-6 points, but Capital tied around the 5 minute mark and simply executed better down the stretch.  The game was closer than the final appears.  The decisive exchange came after Capital notched a basket to go up four (76-72) with just under two minutes to go.  Marietta missed a three (Halter), then following a Capital miss, and with under a minute left on the clock, Marietta missed all three of its chances on its next possession and once Capital finally managed to get a rebound, Marietta was forced to foul.

Capital sank its free throws from there to give the final margin.

These two teams were competitive throughout—a pretty even match up overall.  I think the OAC this year might have even more parity at the top than it has in some years, with JCU, Cap and Marietta all about even to me.  I would not be surprised to see a 13-5 mark be good enough for at least a share of the regular season title this year, as it was in 2006-07.

kiltedbryan

Posters in a few other conferences regularly track this, and I think it's worth paying attention to in a conference that tends to be as balanced as this one.  These standings reflect conference games only.

The scoring is simple:
road win = +1
road loss or home win = 0
home loss = -1

Marietta +2
Mount Union +2
Capital +1
John Carroll +1
Heidelberg +1
Baldwin-Wallace -1
Otterbein -1
Ohio Northern -1
Muskingum -2
Wilmington -2

ste24vie

Otterbein misses another chance to move up in the standings with ANOTHER second half collapse. Now the Cards get a chance to play Wilmington, loser drops into last place in the OAC.

WAlum

I had a great conversation last weekend with some former division III players.  It was fun to listen to their opinions on coaches they played for, coaches they played against, and current coaches they watch today.  They classified teams that win in three ways:
1)  teams who win because of their coach (equal or worse talent yet the coach finds a way to win the majority of those games)
2) teams who win WITH their coach (teams who play hard and the coach uses the talent he has in the best way - everyone has bought in to the system and their roles- these are the most successful teams yearly and have an established program.  they compete for a league championship almost every year)
3)  teams who win despite of their coach (coaches who usually have the best talent on the floor most nights.  these teams end up only average to good almost every year as they underachieve with the talent they have.  these coaches/teams usually beat the bad teams but cant beat the best teams even though they have the talent to compete with them.  occasionally, they get hot and place in the top 2 in the league but are normally a 3rd-5th place team). 

kiltedbryan

Final
John Carroll 90
Marietta 101

Marietta proves that it belongs in the top 3 of the OAC, and will be a force to reckon with for the OAC title.  Marietta seized control with a small run starting with around 8 minutes left, taking a 4 point lead out to a 12 point lead, and they were able to maintain that advantage throughout the game's close.

Marietta moves to 7-2 in the OAC and will likely share first place in the league with Capital, who is up 69-43 on Muskingum with about 6:30 left.  JCU falls to 5-3 in OAC play.

ste24vie

This sounds all too familiar. But, Otterbein misses yet another chance to move up in the standings with a dreadful home loss to Wilmington.  How many lessons can the Cardinals coach ignore. Not a single Quaker played 30 minutes while, once again Otterbein had 4 of its starters play 30+. Riding those dead horses IS NOT WORKING.

When is Otterbein Athletic Director Reynolds gonna wake up and fire Coach Reynolds.

The Cards could be, rather should be 6-2 instead of 2-6 in conference play.

COME ON, WAKE UP AND .......FIRE YOURSELF.......

WAlum

Beating a dead horse SteveO.  Reynolds is NOT leaving Otterbein!

Quote from: ste24vie on January 16, 2011, 08:12:24 AM
This sounds all too familiar. But, Otterbein misses yet another chance to move up in the standings with a dreadful home loss to Wilmington.  How many lessons can the Cardinals coach ignore. Not a single Quaker played 30 minutes while, once again Otterbein had 4 of its starters play 30+. Riding those dead horses IS NOT WORKING.

When is Otterbein Athletic Director Reynolds gonna wake up and fire Coach Reynolds.

The Cards could be, rather should be 6-2 instead of 2-6 in conference play.

COME ON, WAKE UP AND .......FIRE YOURSELF.......


DIII- Insider

Stevie:

I cannot understand how anybody who is a Otterbein fan can disrespect Dick Reynolds like you have been doing.  He is a OAC and D-III icon.  He has won more games thatn anyone is OAC history I believe and has won a national title which not many OAC schools can claim in any sport especially men's basketball.  I have not followed the OAC as closely in the past few years as I did in the early 2000's and even the 1980's and 1990's.  But if I do remember correctly Otterbein is one of the few OAC schools and maybe the only OAC school now who does not have a full time assistant coach.  That is a huge factor when it comes to recruiting.

And by the way, what men's sports has Otterbein done well in in the past 20-30 years other than basketball?  Again I have not followed things in the OAC as much as I used to but I do not remember their football or baseball teams ever contending for OAC titles.  Just an observation from a neutral party.

When I think of Otterbein College ... I think of Dick Reynolds. 


albertjackson

DIII Insider,
While I agree with ur assesment of Coach Reynolds, he is Otterbein Men's Basketball. To get you caught up he does have a full-time assistant in Kyle Pottkotter. Recruiting at Otterbein has been bleek....lets face it, Coach Reynolds is not exactly shaking every branch on the tree when it comes to recruiting. Thats to say... my guess is he's not out recruiting on Tuesday, Friday & Saturday nights like most DIII head coaches. Your statement about other Cardinals sports is also in need of updating. Football has become competitive, as well as many other sports. Men's golf is nationally ranked most years. And yes, Coach Reynolds is the AD.

ste24vie

It's 2011, not 2002 anymore. How many unneccessary years in the basement, surely he is a better coach than what he shows. Am I wrong here? This is not basement talent. Teach them some fundamentals and a press break and most of all cut back on their PT. Check the Marietta post game comments and see what their coach had to say. WEAR EM DOWN AND BEAT EM IN THE END. It's like a re-run on TV, Otterbein winning game after game until the last few minutes of the game. Ask any coach, tired players cannot shoot, cannot defend and can no longer bang inside. Of course,  the OAC and D-III icon doesn't see it that way.  But then again, his team has 2 conference wins nearing the midway point of the season.

Lucky for you to see the glory years. Unfortunately, basketball, including the coaches has a "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY" theme song in 2011.

albertjackson

So I attended the Mt. Union v BW game tonight with an ol' college pal. Thought taking in a game of the 2 coaches I'm most critical of would perhaps give me some new perspective. NOPE! 2 young teams yes, but lots to ponder. BW loses game after leading by double digits again. I realize there was a lot of game still to go, but BW definately lost game at end of 1st half. Must give credit to Coach Hood for having his team 6-3 in the OAC, his squad is definately not what he had with Richards & Shipp. Gotta get to bed, will give half way report later this week....would love to hear other opinions from ppl who have actually seen some games. Will anyone in the OAC be capable of a tourny run? Can the OAC's finest compete with Wooster & Wittenberg?

ste24vie

Otterbein thrashed Wittenberg, 78-64. So, I guess the last place team in the OAC beats one of the best teams in Ohio. Thats what is so frustrating, beating JCU and Wittenberg, and losing to ONU and Wilmington.

WAlum

Quote from: ste24vie on January 17, 2011, 11:30:23 PM
It's 2011, not 2002 anymore. How many unneccessary years in the basement, surely he is a better coach than what he shows. Am I wrong here? This is not basement talent. Teach them some fundamentals and a press break and most of all cut back on their PT. Check the Marietta post game comments and see what their coach had to say. WEAR EM DOWN AND BEAT EM IN THE END. It's like a re-run on TV, Otterbein winning game after game until the last few minutes of the game. Ask any coach, tired players cannot shoot, cannot defend and can no longer bang inside. Of course,  the OAC and D-III icon doesn't see it that way.  But then again, his team has 2 conference wins nearing the midway point of the season.

Lucky for you to see the glory years. Unfortunately, basketball, including the coaches has a "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY" theme song in 2011.

Reynolds has earned the right to leave when he chooses.  Ste24vie is on the spot thought that things have changed for the Otters.  Reynolds never had more than 2 consecutive losing seasons until recently.  The Cards are in their 4th straight losing season and 5 of 6. In his first 33 years the Cards were 583-316 - a winning percentage of .648.   In the last 6 seasons they are 54-89, a winning percentage of .377.  Things are changing in the 'Ville.
54-89