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billy the kid

Quote from: ste24vie on February 14, 2010, 12:58:55 AM
Please Santa, is it too late to ask for a new coach ?????  The train wreck continues for Otterbein...After beating Mount Union by 15 at home, the Cards take a beating at the Mount. Once again, tired legs and poor(make that NO DEFENSE) catches up with OC in the second half. Come on Coach, you put a 4 in at point guard........Another year out of the conference playoffs.

OFFENSE IS PRETTY .......BUT DEFENSE WINS GAMES

So, ste24vie, I am guessing Santa did not fulfill your Christmas wish.

ste24vie = A+......But you might be  a bit easier on an old man with a failing memory.
OFFENSE IS EXCITING...DEFENSE WINS GAMES.....REBOUNDING WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS                                                                    ...

billy the kid

ste24vie, all the bases you touched, the one that I find amazing is the only 2 subs against Maryville were guards. Its amazing, I look to the bench and see 6'7. 6'6 and 6'5 all worthy of playing on Tuesday in a victory but not worthy of playing on Wednesday in defeat. Tired players rest on defense, and it showed on the scoreboard. Tired players trying not to foul play NO DEFENSE and it showed on the scoreboad.
OFFENSE IS EXCITING...DEFENSE WINS GAMES.....REBOUNDING WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS                                                                    ...

scottiedoug

I do not know enough about the Otterbein coaching debate to have an opinion.  I watched the Maryville game on video.  Davis was pretty effective and subbing for him would not have been my idea of good sense...Maryville could not really handle him, in part but not completely because of foul issues with the Scots' (relatively) big people.

It seemed that OU was playing a lot of freshmen most of whom seemed promising.  The guy who lit it up off the bench against St. Vincent did not show any signs of repeating that performance.

Maryville got off to such a hot start that a substitution pattern was unlikely to help much.

ste24vie

Maryville was not hot.....Otterbein was ice cold. At the 15:00 mark, the Cardinals had 7 T/Os, 4 bad shots, 2 other missed shots and a made layup. Mix that in with the fact that the Cardinals play "NO DEFENSE" and your down a quick 13. Most coaches woulda had multiple subs. No, lets ride it out, wear down our ice cold starters and be down 18 at half. How'd this game strategy work out? Besides getting another coaching lesson and a spanking from a team with very limited ball skills. Give Davis an A on offense, with a couple short breaks, he probably get even more points.

You say promising young players, I agree.  But with promising young players comes ups and downs. Only studs play 30+ minutes in college, not promising young players. Maryville played 9 players 13+ minutes. Only their star player 30+. Subs worked on Tuesday and they woulda worked on Wednesday, Lack of subs greatly contributed to the Marietta loss as well as the Mt Union and ONU losses.


It seemed only fitting that the Otterbein coach present Maryville with their award and I was surprised the coach didnt award himself the Maryville "MOST VALUABLE" award.

ste24vie

Sounds like you are blaming a sub for losing, if he could get 17/gm, he'd be a starter.

scottiedoug

"very limited ball skills"?  Is that better or worse than "just ordinary ball skills?"  Is this set of insults about shooting, passing, defending, rebounding, dribbling, assists or what.  We always want to improve.

ste24vie

What I am saying is ....St Vincent and Maryville are very similar teams, both very athletic with limited ball skills and shooters. The game plan that worked to beat St Vincent would also work against Maryville.

scottiedoug

Shooting 45% is limited?  More assists than turnovers is bad ball skills?  I am not arguing that this Maryville team is wonderful, but your assessment seems both vague and harsh.

ste24vie

Bad? I didnt say bad. I said LIMITED which is way better than bad.

kiltedbryan

After handling Redlands without any trouble at all last night (101-67), Marietta survives a survives a back-and-forth game against LaVerne, with a last-second Tyler Halter 3 pointer giving the Pioneers the final 68-66 advantage.

With the win, Marietta (12-0) wraps up its non-conference slate undefeated at 7-0, and the Pioneers continue their best season start ever.  Congratulations to the Pioneers!

ste24vie

Quote from: ste24vie on December 30, 2010, 01:15:50 PM
Maryville was not hot.....Otterbein was ice cold. At the 15:00 mark, the Cardinals had 7 T/Os, 4 bad shots, 2 other missed shots and a made layup. Mix that in with the fact that the Cardinals play "NO DEFENSE" and your down a quick 13. Most coaches woulda had multiple subs. No, lets ride it out, wear down our ice cold starters and be down 18 at half. How'd this game strategy work out? Besides getting another coaching lesson and a spanking from a team with very limited ball skills. Give Davis an A on offense, with a couple short breaks, he probably get even more points.

You say promising young players, I agree.  But with promising young players comes ups and downs. Only studs play 30+ minutes in college, not promising young players. Maryville played 9 players 13+ minutes. Only their star player 30+. Subs worked on Tuesday and they woulda worked on Wednesday, Lack of subs greatly contributed to the Marietta loss as well as the Mt Union and ONU losses.


It seemed only fitting that the Otterbein coach present Maryville with their award and I was surprised the coach didnt award himself the Maryville "MOST VALUABLE" award.

Add Hiram to the list ...lack of subs...fatigue...shoulda won

WAlum

Stevie - Coach Reynolds will be at Otterbein as long as he wants.  For fun, let's say he would hold a press conference today announcing his resignation at the end of the season.    Who would you want as your next coach at Otterbein?  Give me 5 legitimate names.

ste24vie

How about shutting off the cruise control and getting the entire PROGRAM back to the top of the OAC, the players(it takes more than 7) are there NOW to succeed.

Cap has nine players averaging double figure minutes. Otterbein has seven, including four at 29.4 or more.  Fatigue is easily measured in numbers. You do the math. Fatigued players shooting pcts drop big time and their feet quit moving on defense.  I agree the team has promising freshmen, but so far they are yet to figure out how to play college defense. If Cap successly hounds the point with continuous fresh players, like Marietta, it could be a painful night.

David Collinge

Congratulations to Jon VanderWal and Marietta, entering the D3hoops.com Top 25 poll at #24 this week.  This is the Pioneers' first poll appearance since the 1999-2000 season, when they were ranked for three weeks in January, topping out at #18.

David Collinge

A terrible, terrible tragedy at JCU.  Condolences to the family and friends of Matt Crozier and to the JCU men's team on this dreadful news.