MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[c-busballer]

Was anyone at the semi-finals last night?  Any insights to the games?  What happened on the last play with Davis being fouled?
 
Tough way for Wilmington to go down.  Congrats to Wilmington and Muskingum on great years.

[jf714]

ONU did a solid job of bottling up Brandon Todd last night. It seemed as if the other guys carried Muskingum tonight.

I thought Wilmington played very well against BW. They did a solid job, for the most part, of keeping the ball out of Tori Davis's hands in the second half. I would say that the late foul call was justified. Davis got hammered.

[JCHoopsDad]

I had a good angle on the foul at the end.  You could make as much of a case that Davis pushed off to get open as you could that he got fouled on the shot.  The push off wasn't called and the foul on the shot shouldn't have been called either.  It isn't the first time Wilmington has had the referees call a shot at the end of the game at BW to decide the outcome.  Same thing happened in the regular season game at BW last year.  The game should have gone to overtime.  Wilmington deserved a better fate.  The loss probably costs them a shot at the NCAA tournament.  You don't want to be put in that position by a referee at the end of the game.  Hopefully the OAC will get two teams in the tournament.  Wilmington needs BW to beat ONU tonight and hope they can squeak in on their two wins over ONU during the season. 

[c-busballer]

I had ONU over Wilmington.  I am still going to take ONU.  They are playing to continue their season.  BW is in the big dance.  I also think ONU is playing well.  They need to get Badenhop some open looks.  Post players need to rebound and play defense tonight.  BW needs to limit turnovers.  The Bears do not press like JCU has and Wilmington, but are very agressive and physical in the half court.  I think ONU is deeper and will help them in the back to back games. 

[jdean]

Hey BW. Any chance you can win a game easily? These OT's and last second wins are getting old. How many more weeks will this drama continue?

[David Collinge]

Here's how I see the final regional rankings, assuming I have recalculated the QoWI correctly:

1. Wittenberg (20-3, QoWI 10.652)
2. Hope (17-2, 10.211)
3. Baldwin-Wallace (22-4, 10.077)
4. Wooster (21-3, 10.042)
5. Carnegie Mellon (15-4, 10.474)
6. Calvin (13-2, 9.750)
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7. Lake Erie (18-4, 9.682)
8. Bethany (20-4, 9.417)
9. Ohio Northern (17-6, 9.130)
10. Albion (12-4, 9.125)

Pool C candidates shown in boldface; Pool B candidate shown in italics.

[Kramerica]

Went to BW-WILM and BW-ONU. Two great games played by 3 very good teams. Tori Davis made big plays when they needed it and Shuler from BW hit huge shots in OT after almost losing the game in regulation.

JCU-Dad, are you serious they shouldnt have called that foul on the last play in the BW-Wilmington game? Davis should have filed a police report after the game on that foul. That is a set play BW has had in the program since Lincoln was in office and it actually worked because of a great throw. Davis did not push off, the Wilmington defender made a bad play on it and they had to foul or Davis would have laid it in. In my opinion the officials were giving the game to Wilmington and BW were better than the refs that night.

BW-ONU was another great game. I didnt think it could top the game the night before and it did. I stated before if you get physical with Baden"flop" he will struggle. Reference 3-14 FG. He did hit a huge three though when they needed it. He is a good player but a cheap player as well. Will grab and push off you on offense and then flop all over the place. Good to see the refs didnt buy it most of the night.

There is no way Wilmington will be in the NCAA's. ONU might not even get it in. It happen to Capital a few years ago and may happen again tonight. Too bad.

Will BW host a 1st round game? Anybody, anybody, Bueller.

[ScotsFan]

There is no way Wilmington will be in the NCAA's. ONU might not even get it in. It happen to Capital a few years ago and may happen again tonight. Too bad.

Will BW host a 1st round game? Anybody, anybody, Bueller.

I agree with you about Wilmington, but ONU still has an outside chance.  The field is expanded this year, so the Bears have a better shot than Cap, who got jobbed a couple of years ago.  Without the expanded field, ONU would have no chance, but with the added pool C bids, they will want to be tuned in tonight at 10 to see if they made the cut.

As for B-W hosting, I would say they should host at least one game if not more.  Although, as screwy as the selection committee has been in the past, who knows what they're capbale of???  My hope is that they break up this region a bit and send a couple west and a couple east.  That would be the right thing to do, but the NCAA is only concerned about the least expensive thing to do so we will probably have to look forward to a sectional that will rival the Final 4 in Salem.

[DII/DIIIFan]

Shame on you, Kramerica.

Your comments about Greg Badenhop, a fine young, DIII basketball player are indicative of someone who not only didn't play the game at a high level, but probably knows little about the game.

Focus on what the outstanding young men of BW and ONU did well ... they are both quality teams coached by quality men in Bankston and Coleman.

Kudos to BW for pulling out the win, and kudos to ONU for splitting two games with BW in Berea over a ten day period.

Kramerica, your true colors only show your ignorance. Shame on you a second time.

[Kramerica]

DII/III Fan-

I simply stated my opinion of some of the things I have seen for the two years I have seen Badenhop play. No doubt he is a great player who can shoot. I am entitled to my opinion and there is some fact to that opinion, he does flop sometimes. Also, I said that if you get physical with him he tends to not shoot the ball that great. Another opinion of mine.

There is no rule on this forum that says we have to say only positive things and focus on what teams did well. I am fan and simply said what I saw.  So as a result I don't know the game and did not play at a "high-level"? Mmmmm, ok. So if I played D-3 basketball I would know the game and have played at a high-level. Gotcha ya.

After reading the front page I am confused. So if BW hosts a 1st round game, there will be 4 teams and it will be on a Friday and Saturday? Or will they play Wednesday or Thursday? If so what are some of the teams that could be in Berea this week or weekend?

[David Collinge]

Five teams in the draw will earn a first-round bye.  In those situations, there will be a first round on-campus game on Thursday, and the winner will travel to the campus of the "bye" team for a second-round game Saturday.  There will also be 11 four-team "regionals," comprising the first- and second-round games on Friday and Saturday, all to be played at the site of the highest-seeded team in the regional.

So B-WC could host:
* A first round game Thursday, then travel somewhere on Saturday if they win, or
* First and second-round games Friday and Saturday, or
* No games, playing on the road Thursday and (if they win) Saturday, or
* No games, playing on the road Friday and Saturday.

I think it's fairly likely that B-WC will have a good enough seed to host, but probably not to get a bye.  So I'd anticipate a 4-team regional to be held in Berea on Friday and Saturday.  I'm working on potential brackets now; at a minimum I think you can expect to see Lake Erie College there.

[Kramerica]

Hell of a job David Collinge....keep it coming. Make sure you get something to eat, this stuff isnt that important.

[DII/DIIIFan]

Kramerica,

It's clear you are embarassed by being called out. All posters/readers know that an opinion of skills or playing style is not the same as ridiculing a young man's name. Enough said.

I do stand corrected on referring to the unlikely nature of you playing at a "high level". I should have simply said playing "organized basketball at any level". 

[Kramerica]

Fan,

I am embarrassed because I said Badenhop flops sometimes and is a good player? Ah...now I see, I think?

By the way, played 4 years in the OAC and scored over 1,000 points.

[DII/DIIIFan]

Congratulations, Kramerica. I am duly impressed. You should be proud of what you achieved.