MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Toph]

i dont think i'll ever figure out this league

I don't think it's that tough to figure out.  If you don't play your best basketball every night, you're probably going to get beat.

[Toph]

Only one team from the OAC (a second place team at that) is still in the top 25 and nobody else is even receiving votes??  What in the wide world of sports is going on here?

[Pat Coleman]

When your league figures itself out then we'll figure it out.

[wooscotsfan]

All the OAC 1/24 Final Scores:

John Carroll 65  Muskingum 63
Ohio Northern 83  Heidelberg 80
Baldwin-Wallace 84  Mount Union 66
Capital 73  Wilmington 65
Otterbein 78  Marietta 69

So, the current standings look like this:

John Carroll in first place at 8-3
ONU, Heide, B-W, CAP are all at 7-4
Wilm and OTT are at 6-5

[ScotsFan]

Wow!  Almost a sense of normalcy in the OAC tonight!

[David Collinge]

Completing the standings,
MUC and Musky are 3-8
Marietta is 1-10 (but the one was ONU)

It's not good to be an 'M' in the OAC! 

[Toph]

I actually had a chance to go to the Carroll/Musky game last night.  A few notes--

-Carroll jumped out to a 10-0 lead and led by 9 at the half. 

-Musky was able to control the tempo and bring themselves back into it.  The second half was practically a wrestling match.  Both teams were in the bonus before the 10 minute mark.

-As bad as Muskingum played offensively (I'm really not sure what they try to accomplish on the offensive end, they were getting absolutely horrible looks at the basket) they played very tough, physical defense.  I was impressed at the way their team refused to go down.

-I was surprised that John Carroll didn't take better advantage of having a player like Mimes in the post.  Once the score tightened up (and Carroll even trailed for a few possesions late in the game) they started feeding him more on the block, but up to that point he was not the focus of the offense.  When you have a player like Mimes and your opponent has no one even in the same galaxy in terms of ability, you have to use that to your advantage.

-Only in the OAC can you see a player leave a game with a very large cut above his eye from an elbow with no foul call.  Moran got as hot as I've seen him in quite awhile after that.  I can only imagine what the folks from Wooster would've said about the refs had it been one of their players. 

[ScotsFan]

-Only in the OAC can you see a player leave a game with a very large cut above his eye from an elbow with no foul call.  Moran got as hot as I've seen him in quite awhile after that.  I can only imagine what the folks from Wooster would've said about the refs had it been one of their players. 

First of all, in regards to the elbow incident, is it any surprise that this type of an act occur in an OAC game?  I mean, I would think it would be a fairly regular occurance as brutlal as some of the teams are in that league.  I would also think you would be used to these types of occurances by now toph. 

Second of all, in regards to your little jab towards Wooster folks, a similar situation did occur in the Wittenberg game earlier this season when Tim Vandervaart was playing post defense on Borchers (I believe that's who it was or it could have been Hemenway).  Vandervaart went down with a bloddy nose and the ref proceeded to call a pf on Vandervaart to boot.  At least your guy didn't get the pf called on him as well for taking an elbow to the face.

ps, thanks for your comedic contributions to the board toph.  You might have a future in it???

[Toph]

ps, thanks for your comedic contributions to the board toph.  You might have a future in it???

No future in comedy that I know of. 


I wasn't complaining about the no call.  I was merely commenting on the style of play.  The second half was as physical a game as I've seen in awhile, which really helped the fighting fish because Carroll couldn't get out and run against them.



As for the elbow to the nose incident...

I'm surprised no one claimed that the referee was seen leaving Dane Borchers' dorm room with a huge wad of cash.

[pennstghs]

actually toph this did stir up a big controversy among other things calling wittenberg dirty and disgracing the university after the game and the discussion about this foul and dirty play. Imagine what it would have been like if wooste rhad actually lost.

[Toph]

penn-
I'm making a joke about a three year old beef that some Wooster fans have with JCU.  The last thing I want is to have some sort of Woo-Witt border war come over to the OAC board, even if it would bring a little life.

[David Collinge]

If it's Wooster fans who have the beef, why is it that you're the only one who ever brings it up?

[Toph]

If it's Wooster fans who have the beef, why is it that you're the only one who ever brings it up?

To make jokes and hopefully get a few laughs.

[ScotsFan]

I'm making a joke about a three year old beef that some Wooster fans have with JCU. 

To quote that famously bad Wendy's ad campaign, "Where's the beef???"   I don't seem to remember this subject brought up by anyone other than yourself.  I'm glad to know that you're keeping tabs on the whole situation since there seems to be 'some' Wooster fans that supposedly still have a 3 year old 'beef' with JCU.

To make jokes and hopefully get a few laughs.

And you said you weren't looking for a future in the comedic arts... 8)

[Toph]

To make jokes and hopefully get a few laughs.

And you said you weren't looking for a future in the comedic arts...

Clearly I don't have one!   

While we're on the subject of referees I forgot to mention that a major play in Wednesday's game against Muskingum was with JCU leading by one and something like 3 seconds left Brandon Mimes took a charge to give the ball back to JCU, Moran got fouled on the inbound and missed the second free throw on purpose since Musky was out of timeouts (a very smart play, I might add, with 1.6 seconds left there was no way Muskingum was going to get a shot...I think Pete might make a good coach one day). 

Obviously, the fish fans went nuts, screaming that it should've been a block and hurling the usual "what year did you graduate from JCU" type insults at the officials.  If only they had been paying attention to head coach Geno "Mr. Basketball '93" Ford (who I liked as a player and assistant, but won't judge as a head coach yet) who turned to one of his assistants and said "It was a charge."

Still, a great game.