Reference: Schools' all-time Division III record

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#15
February 05, 2006, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 05, 2006, 12:17:28 AM
Sometimes, I wonder if we aren't considered party crashers by the old elite , who don't win as many championships as they used to win.

Could be!!!   ;) ;D
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#16
February 06, 2006, 09:39:09 AM

Knightstalker,

If 590 is accurate then it would put them slightly ahead of Wooster's rumored total of 588 (at least for this week).  It might be the most since then.

Also, nice mention of NJCU in ESPN magazine this issue; have you seen it yet?  I guess one of Randy Foy's mentors played ball at NJCU.
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#17
February 06, 2006, 09:45:18 AM
Through last season, Potsdam is 510-253, for a .668 winning percentage.

Jerry Welsh's D-III career record (17 years) when he retired in '91 was
375-104 (.783) and 33-11 (13 appearances, 9 regional titles) in the NCAA Tournament.
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#18
February 06, 2006, 02:01:40 PM
Question?
Why are folks starting their stats from the '74-'75 season, as I determined that the NCAA created the current Division III in 1973. (So says our beloved SID)
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Pat Coleman

#19
February 06, 2006, 02:10:27 PM
Agreed, but the first Division III championship was 1974-75 for men's basketball. Before then I suppose you could have teams from the old college division settling between the two divisions and we might not really know where they stood in any particular season.
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February 06, 2006, 02:41:38 PM Last Edit: February 06, 2006, 03:04:52 PM by knightstalker
Quote from: dansand on February 05, 2006, 02:28:38 PM
Knightstalker,

I was curious as to why NJCU had played so many more games than Augie in the same amount of years. I think if you double-check, the Gothic Knights are 590-269 (.687) through the end of last year.

You are right, that is what I get for adding on a calculater, I do better with a column of numbers.

Starting with the 74-75 season NJCU is 590-269 for a winning percentage of .686.  The average record is 19-9 (rounded up)

Counting the 20-6 73-74 season they are 610-275 for a winning percentage of .689.  The average record is still 19-9.

Starting with 73 is ok by me.  :)

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February 06, 2006, 02:46:36 PM Last Edit: February 06, 2006, 03:56:00 PM by NW Hope Fan
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 06, 2006, 02:10:27 PM
Agreed, but the first Division III championship was 1974-75 for men's basketball. Before then I suppose you could have teams from the old college division settling between the two divisions and we might not really know where they stood in any particular season.

Thanks Pat. That helps Hope by a half percent  ;D

Hope College from the '74-'75 season through The Albion Game on 2/4 is 586/814 for 71.9%

Glen Van Wieren in his 29th season has led the Flying Dutchmen to a 556/748 record at 74.3% (although his second season is the worst in Hope history at a dismal 5/17 If you eliminate this early coaching, transition year from his record his winning percentage jumps to nearly 76%)
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#22
February 06, 2006, 03:03:24 PM
As I was looking at the records for Hope, one thing jumped out at me that I don't understand. In 1984 Hope played 2 NCAA games, losing both. Why did they play a second game?

>Heidelberg, Ohio 75, Hope 69 (NCAA)
>Capital, Ohio 83, Hope 77 (ot) (NCAA)

??? ??? ???
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#23
February 06, 2006, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: NW Hope Fan on February 06, 2006, 03:03:24 PM
As I was looking at the records for Hope, one thing jumped out at me that I don't understand. In 1984 Hope played 2 NCAA games, losing both. Why did they play a second game?

>Heidelberg, Ohio 75, Hope 69 (NCAA)
>Capital, Ohio 83, Hope 77 (ot) (NCAA)

??? ??? ???

Nevermind... Regional 3rd place games. Who would have cared about playing for third in the region? The season was over after the first loss??!!
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Pat Coleman

#24
February 06, 2006, 03:09:53 PM
Probably why they got rid of them.
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#25
February 06, 2006, 03:17:24 PM
It is only one game, but why would that count on a record. It seems that it would constitute nothing more than an exibithion. And it would bring Hope up to an even 72%  ;)
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#26
February 06, 2006, 03:36:16 PM
Wabash, entering this season, was 410-368 in the D-3 era.
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#27
February 06, 2006, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: NW Hope Fan on February 06, 2006, 03:17:24 PM
It is only one game, but why would that count on a record. It seems that it would constitute nothing more than an exibithion. And it would bring Hope up to an even 72%  ;)

D3 still plays a third place game in the Final Four... the logic behind it, as I understand it, is that the fans came out to see their teams play... and so they toss the ball up one more time.  I can't say how it feels to play in that game... The only times I played in Salem, we won Championships!

My feeling is that the logic behind the 3rd place game at the regional would be for the same reason... the fans came out, so they guaranteed showing them two games.

Just my take, I may very well be wrong!
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sac

#28
February 06, 2006, 11:52:59 PM
I think It would be easier on everyone's eye and brains if we just counted games through the 05 season.

We can add this year at the end of the year.

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#29
February 07, 2006, 12:19:43 AM
Come on SAC, don't you just love adding a 20-1 (so far) record to ours?

I know what you mean though. Makes sense.
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