BB: SLIAC: St Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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#1PantherFan

We're doing it again! Tomorrow's scheduled DH @ GCS Ballpark between Webster and Greenville has been moved to tonight starting @ 5:00P. Trying to skirt around the weather :-\

glkballmvp7

Personally I think every single one of you are crazy... First of all, Shaefer is better than Horn, and he's the flippin backup... BTW, lets concentrate on Blackburns catcher. He threw out two runners in big situations in Wednesday's affair... Although Horn threw out two stealers in the 11th, he failed to throw out the third and that cost the Griffins... Rubber match coming soon...

thenatural13

i agree with what most are saying about wasson. Ive seen him play a couple of times and his arm looks plenty strong. He has definatly kept up the tradition at the burn. Also, his footwork looked fine to me as well. It just seems that maybe a few runners got a good jump a time or two, big deal, the season is early. AND you cannot name me one catcher that has thrown out every runner. end of story!

HangEmBangEm

It seems to me that everyone is arguing over something slightly pointless. Wasson is obviously pretty good defensively, as is Horn. But it seems like the sliac only has 1 or 2 catchers able to get it done at the plate and behind the plate. Not trying to knock anyone, just how it appears to me.

theoneandonly

Quote from: jp13 on March 26, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Wasson is consistantly throwing a 2.00 and under pop time. He had two or three runners thrown at at Fontbonne last night and in crucial situations. In the bottom of the 10th, Fontbonne gets a runner on 1st with one out. They try to take second and Wasson got him before he was even 15 ft. to the base. The runner didn't even slide. His pitchers need to work more on their mechanics with runners on. There is a limited amount of slide stepping and hitch stepping with pitchers which gives runners a huge jump. Good win for Blackburn. Lets see if they can string some wins together this weekend against Prin.

Jp13.. Might you be jon paul wasson himself!??! Why yes, yes it is. But I can tell you JON that your coach does NOT record pop times. SO if you think that you have a 2.00 and under pop time well so be it, but I can tell you that is not true.Since most division I and Major league catchers pop times are between 1.85-2.00 I highly doubt thats your pop time. Who knows though maybe you're a darkhorse and are going to get drafted out of Blackburn. You may not want to tear down your pitchers either, because im sure some of them read this. But in all seriousness jon you dont need to come on here to defend  yourself. As you can see there were quite a few people in your defense. So let your playing do the talking not your keyboard. Leave that to us.
Baseball players get to every base.

VideoDawg

Quote from: thenatural13 on March 29, 2009, 11:15:21 PM
i agree with what most are saying about wasson. Ive seen him play a couple of times and his arm looks plenty strong. He has definatly kept up the tradition at the burn. Also, his footwork looked fine to me as well. It just seems that maybe a few runners got a good jump a time or two, big deal, the season is early. AND you cannot name me one catcher that has thrown out every runner. end of story!

He used to hop to his left, off the "t" and tended to be out front on his throws. Maybe he righted the ship. For a freshman he is doing great.

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: thenatural13 on March 29, 2009, 11:15:21 PM
i agree with what most are saying about wasson. Ive seen him play a couple of times and his arm looks plenty strong. He has definatly kept up the tradition at the burn. Also, his footwork looked fine to me as well. It just seems that maybe a few runners got a good jump a time or two, big deal, the season is early. AND you cannot name me one catcher that has thrown out every runner. end of story!




Last thing i'll say on this subject. Batting .208 and striking out 11 of the first 24 at bats isn't doing much to earn respect in any league. With hitting stats like that you might have to throw out every runner if you're not wanting to be replaced real quick. Add to that the 9 passed balls and the what 12 stolen bases against? Doesn't look like he's getting much respect for his defense either. Can't argue statistics people. Until he proves himself who cares what his footwork looks like, or his arm strength. So how about we put this pointless subject to rest until we are given something to talk about.

theoneandonly

In other news, if it ever stops raining, Blackburn will be playing Webster today at GCS Ballpark in Sauget. So hope to see a lot of people out at that game!
Baseball players get to every base.

VideoDawg

I may find myself watching a little baseball if it clears off. Can anyone stop Webster? That is looking like the question.

HangEmBangEm

Doesnt look that way yet. Webster takes two with little trouble. Blackburn did show some signs of fight in the first game, but the quickly went away after webster took the lead. Looks like Webster is finding its stroke out there.

VideoDawg

#445
I was at the game. Unfortunately for Blackburn it is going to be a long season unless the defense can improve. The first game was a real tragedy for Ward, starting pitcher. He had good stuff got 6 strikeouts in 6 innings, gave up five hits (that I saw anyway) but still allowed 9 runs.

Just a few low lights, pop foul dropped, a give me double play kicked like a soccer ball, the right fielder fell down while fielding a routine fly and the ball hit him, of course he failed to catch it. And to top it off the center fielder came charging in on a hit to center, and he was still coming in as it passed over his head.

He has to be the absolute worst outfielder in the sliac. You know the old joke about why Cinderella ddn't make the baseball team? She ran away from the ball. That was the Blackburn center fielder tonight. Not only that but he was dogging it on every ball hit to him. He had a shot on a play at home but didn't even make the attempt. I don't know his name but he will never get it mentioned as player of the week, unless its April Fools Day.

The above is just the short list of poor defense. Bad throws, mishandled the balls, throwing to the wrong base and lack of hustle cost Blackburn the game. Unfortunately I think only two errors where awarded.

Ward's ERA is going to be double digit as a result of the poor play behind him. Too bad for him, too bad for Coach Neal, too bad for the fans they all deserved better.

The real shame is that kids in third world countries could have used the leather wasted on gloves at Blackburn for shoes.

With a good defense (not a great one) Ward would have given up 1 or 2 runs and Blackburn would have won. No kidding.

theoneandonly

Quote from: VideoDawg on April 01, 2009, 02:15:20 AM
I was at the game. Unfortunately for Blackburn it is going to be a long season unless the defense can improve. The first game was a real tragedy for Ward, starting pitcher. He had good stuff got 6 strikeouts in 6 innings, gave up five hits (that I saw anyway) but still allowed 9 runs.

Just a few low lights, pop foul dropped, a give me double play kicked like a soccer ball, the right fielder fell down while fielding a routine fly and the ball hit him, of course he failed to catch it. And to top it off the center fielder came charging in on a hit to center, and he was still coming in as it passed over his head.

He has to be the absolute worst outfielder in the sliac. You know the old joke about why Cinderella ddn't make the baseball team? She ran away from the ball. That was the Blackburn center fielder tonight. Not only that but he was dogging it on every ball hit to him. He had a shot on a play at home but didn't even make the attempt. I don't know his name but he will never get it mentioned as player of the week, unless its April Fools Day.

The above is just the short list of poor defense. Bad throws, mishandled the balls, throwing to the wrong base and lack of hustle cost Blackburn the game. Unfortunately I think only two errors where awarded.

Ward's ERA is going to be double digit as a result of the poor play behind him. Too bad for him, too bad for Coach Neal, too bad for the fans they all deserved better.

The real shame is that kids in third world countries could have used the leather wasted on gloves at Blackburn for shoes.

With a good defense (not a great one) Ward would have given up 1 or 2 runs and Blackburn would have won. No kidding.

I consistantly get ripped for posting rude comments and/or dogging on a certain player. You have comepletely surpassed that Videodawg. This comment is pretty rediculous. Although this is a board to post freely how you feel, you should take into consideration that players do read these boards and tearing them apart is not necessary. Even though everyone appreciates writing on these boards and reading them, you still have to realize there is more than just a few people reading these. so i can offically say this was a stupid post on your part.
Baseball players get to every base.

VideoDawg

#447
"I consistantly get ripped for posting rude comments and/or dogging on a certain player. You have comepletely surpassed that Videodawg. This comment is pretty rediculous. Although this is a board to post freely how you feel, you should take into consideration that players do read these boards and tearing them apart is not necessary. Even though everyone appreciates writing on these boards and reading them, you still have to realize there is more than just a few people reading these. so i can offically say this was a stupid post on your part."


I thought I would take your heat for a while. ;D

First of all the comments made are completely true and not ridiculous. Second I have been to more games than I can count at all levels and I have never seen such a poor display of fielding ability. Blackburn has a very good coach and some real talent at some positions but if they don't find an outfield and replace some infielders they are going to sink like a stone. Of course this game could have been an aberration. I hope they play better in the future.

I guess on this post I should be considered the "Simon" of the sliac. Sometimes the truth hurts but someone has to say it. If the players read this I hope it makes them mad and they vow to get better, work harder and play at a higher level.

I will catch another Blackburn game in two weeks I hope I can write a better opinion and eat my words I would love nothing more than to have the Beavers get all over me by proving me wrong.     

theoneandonly

this...

Blackburn has a very good coach and some real talent at some positions but if they don't find an outfield and replace some infielders they are going to sink like a stone. Of course this game could have been an aberration. I hope they play better in the future.

...would have been a more appropriate post.

but thanks for taking the heat off.. HAH!
Baseball players get to every base.

VideoDawg

#449
Thank you for your input. These are just kids and I will keep that in mind in the future.