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bballnerd1967

Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good post oneandonly. As you know I was at the Webster/Blackburn game and felt that Blackburn had more than an opportunity to win the first game of the doubleheader. So I hope you don't think that I am a hater.

It is too bad that Wasson is leaving. He had real potential and he was quite impressive behind that plate. However he was a freshman and made freshman mistakes.

The most disturbing thing about the Webster/Blackburn game was the constant personal riding that Wasson took from the Webster bench. They never mentioned his name but they were on him all game long. Probably stemming from a possible post from him on this site about his "pop time". I hope he didn't leave because of the relentless riding at Webster.

I have never made an issue of this because baseball is about wins and stats. But the Webster team is a poor ambassador for the SLIAC and for their school. They are constantly making personal attacks on other teams to the point that although they have had good teams and a good facility I rarely visit their ballpark. They are truly poor sports. And it is not just the players, against Blackburn the announcer purposely mispronounced the Blackburn players names all game long. That kind of childishness only happens at Webster games.

Anyway this has been a disturbing trend at Webster for the past couple of years. If a young man asked me about playing at Webster I would tell him to go somewhere else. Good team but low class, low rent attitude. They need some class lessons from Principia. 




Are you serious with this post. Do you honestly think that someone who volunteers to do division 3 baseball announcing would purposely mess up an athletes name just to embarass them. Webster's announcer has struggled with names all year long and honestly tries his best with the names. As for the hounding of Wasson from Blackburn, he brought that upon himself as he posted his personal stats that are clearly false on a public blog that many players, coaches, and fans of the sliac read every day. Im not saying he is the only player in the SLIAC that is commenting on this board, but no one else has bragged about their POP time or any other stat. Jawing is a part of any sport and especially baseball. This takes place at every level including the professional and little league levels. If you cant handle the Webster University bench players giving you a hard time while you are trying to compete you are not a very mentally strong ball player. Need i remind you folks of the Tampa Bay heckler from a few years back. That man used to give the players all hell and they still went out and competed every day, and no they are a winning team.


As for the childishness that only takes place at Webster games. Have you ever attended a Blackburn game at home? Im guessing not? Their have some of the worst fans in respect to that they talk mess the entire game.

Maybe Webster would have given up the trash talking if Blackburn wasnt known as a dirty team. Last year they had 2 altercations with Webster as they threw at them in the game. This year a Blackburn pitcher reatliated to a hit batsmen by Will Savage and threw at Fuiten's head. That is CLASSLESS to its maximum.

At the end of the day Webster wins their games, and needs to be challenged in the SLIAC. Credit to Blackburn as they had Webster beat for 5 innings but in the end Webster took over and came thru with timely hitting and won the ball game.



VideoDawg

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Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good post oneandonly. As you know I was at the Webster/Blackburn game and felt that Blackburn had more than an opportunity to win the first game of the doubleheader. So I hope you don't think that I am a hater.

It is too bad that Wasson is leaving. He had real potential and he was quite impressive behind that plate. However he was a freshman and made freshman mistakes.

The most disturbing thing about the Webster/Blackburn game was the constant personal riding that Wasson took from the Webster bench. They never mentioned his name but they were on him all game long. Probably stemming from a possible post from him on this site about his "pop time". I hope he didn't leave because of the relentless riding at Webster.

I have never made an issue of this because baseball is about wins and stats. But the Webster team is a poor ambassador for the SLIAC and for their school. They are constantly making personal attacks on other teams to the point that although they have had good teams and a good facility I rarely visit their ballpark. They are truly poor sports. And it is not just the players, against Blackburn the announcer purposely mispronounced the Blackburn players names all game long. That kind of childishness only happens at Webster games.

Anyway this has been a disturbing trend at Webster for the past couple of years. If a young man asked me about playing at Webster I would tell him to go somewhere else. Good team but low class, low rent attitude. They need some class lessons from Principia. 


Rediculous.

1. Do you honestly think that a grown man that cant even get Websters players names right is purposely getting Blackburns names wrong just to throw them off? That is the most ignorant thing I have read on this site! I am willing to bet that anyone would have trouble with last names. He has done this with all Webster players as well, as have other teams announcers on away games. I can count on one hand the number of times Andrew Fuiten's name has been pronounced correctly on the road. If this is a mind game tell them it's obviously not working.
2. This is baseball, not golf. Want a game where people will not try to get in your head? Go to a tennis match. . I dont know if you ever played the game, but its slightly mental. If you aren't mentally strong, any good team will get in your head and force more mistakes. This is part of the game and it is seen at any level. This is when i start questioning baseball knowledge on your parts. If you can't take a little bit of jawing then get off of the field. I mean honestly, if you cannot handle a team joking around about a D3 board post (which is what I understand from your post) then i would love to see the kid in a pressure situation a big game. Does not seem like any lines were crossed or the umpires would have been involved, so obviously not malicious comments. Thin skinned baseball players/teams go nowhere in the game, they find themselves 4th in conference and at the end of the bench. Clueless.

Ok you state that the current announcer at Webster is just inarticulate. Great rep for the school. I hope that everyone at Webster doesn't have that much trouble reading and pronouncing names. The job offers must come pouring in on career day. Also he got names right the first time through the order then started mispronouncing them more and more through the game adding extra syllables etc. That tells me a lot when the vocal representative for Webster cannot pronounce simple english. Way to go Webster. Class act all the way around.

First of all it may suprise you that I agree with you for the most part. If you are going to play any sport you need to be mentally tough. No problem. Where we differ is that you as a player have the right to be mouthy but when you do you look like a 2 year old or worse. It shows poor sportsmanship. It certainly doesn't reflect positively on your school or the SLIAC and it makes you look like classless little leaguers. What's next at Webster hey batter, hey batter, hey batter, hey batter, swing batter? Can you see Albert Pujols or any pro asking the opposing catcher from the dugout about his pop time to belittle him. No way. Pujols and 99% of all big leaguers are class acts. Webster is not. Like I said at Webster it is amateur hour.      

bballnerd1967

You are classless videodawg, way to bring down someone who does that job for free and has for the last couple of years. Have you ever played baseball in your lifetime? Once again im guessing no! you have no idea what goes down on the major league field because you dont hear it. Theres no way you can hear it either. You are a joke.

VideoDawg

Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 06, 2009, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good post oneandonly. As you know I was at the Webster/Blackburn game and felt that Blackburn had more than an opportunity to win the first game of the doubleheader. So I hope you don't think that I am a hater.

It is too bad that Wasson is leaving. He had real potential and he was quite impressive behind that plate. However he was a freshman and made freshman mistakes.

The most disturbing thing about the Webster/Blackburn game was the constant personal riding that Wasson took from the Webster bench. They never mentioned his name but they were on him all game long. Probably stemming from a possible post from him on this site about his "pop time". I hope he didn't leave because of the relentless riding at Webster.

I have never made an issue of this because baseball is about wins and stats. But the Webster team is a poor ambassador for the SLIAC and for their school. They are constantly making personal attacks on other teams to the point that although they have had good teams and a good facility I rarely visit their ballpark. They are truly poor sports. And it is not just the players, against Blackburn the announcer purposely mispronounced the Blackburn players names all game long. That kind of childishness only happens at Webster games.

Anyway this has been a disturbing trend at Webster for the past couple of years. If a young man asked me about playing at Webster I would tell him to go somewhere else. Good team but low class, low rent attitude. They need some class lessons from Principia. 




Are you serious with this post. Do you honestly think that someone who volunteers to do division 3 baseball announcing would purposely mess up an athletes name just to embarass them. Webster's announcer has struggled with names all year long and honestly tries his best with the names. As for the hounding of Wasson from Blackburn, he brought that upon himself as he posted his personal stats that are clearly false on a public blog that many players, coaches, and fans of the sliac read every day. Im not saying he is the only player in the SLIAC that is commenting on this board, but no one else has bragged about their POP time or any other stat. Jawing is a part of any sport and especially baseball. This takes place at every level including the professional and little league levels. If you cant handle the Webster University bench players giving you a hard time while you are trying to compete you are not a very mentally strong ball player. Need i remind you folks of the Tampa Bay heckler from a few years back. That man used to give the players all hell and they still went out and competed every day, and no they are a winning team.


As for the childishness that only takes place at Webster games. Have you ever attended a Blackburn game at home? Im guessing not? Their have some of the worst fans in respect to that they talk mess the entire game.

Maybe Webster would have given up the trash talking if Blackburn wasnt known as a dirty team. Last year they had 2 altercations with Webster as they threw at them in the game. This year a Blackburn pitcher reatliated to a hit batsmen by Will Savage and threw at Fuiten's head. That is CLASSLESS to its maximum.

At the end of the day Webster wins their games, and needs to be challenged in the SLIAC. Credit to Blackburn as they had Webster beat for 5 innings but in the end Webster took over and came thru with timely hitting and won the ball game.




First I'm glad you pointed out it is "fans" at other venues not players and other schools they handle issues on the field in the game as it should be done. Shouting insults from the bench is bush.

I am also glad you confirmed that it is splinter pickers doing the trash talk. Most of your players on the field won't stoop to the bench guys level.

Lastly, atleast you admit that you guys trash talk to get back at other teams. Instead of handling it on the field like men you call names like the little girls on a playground. As for my playing career I'll let you know when you pass me up. Oh your a bench rider at Webster sorry you won't.   

bballnerd1967

Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 06, 2009, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good post oneandonly. As you know I was at the Webster/Blackburn game and felt that Blackburn had more than an opportunity to win the first game of the doubleheader. So I hope you don't think that I am a hater.

It is too bad that Wasson is leaving. He had real potential and he was quite impressive behind that plate. However he was a freshman and made freshman mistakes.

The most disturbing thing about the Webster/Blackburn game was the constant personal riding that Wasson took from the Webster bench. They never mentioned his name but they were on him all game long. Probably stemming from a possible post from him on this site about his "pop time". I hope he didn't leave because of the relentless riding at Webster.

I have never made an issue of this because baseball is about wins and stats. But the Webster team is a poor ambassador for the SLIAC and for their school. They are constantly making personal attacks on other teams to the point that although they have had good teams and a good facility I rarely visit their ballpark. They are truly poor sports. And it is not just the players, against Blackburn the announcer purposely mispronounced the Blackburn players names all game long. That kind of childishness only happens at Webster games.

Anyway this has been a disturbing trend at Webster for the past couple of years. If a young man asked me about playing at Webster I would tell him to go somewhere else. Good team but low class, low rent attitude. They need some class lessons from Principia. 




Are you serious with this post. Do you honestly think that someone who volunteers to do division 3 baseball announcing would purposely mess up an athletes name just to embarass them. Webster's announcer has struggled with names all year long and honestly tries his best with the names. As for the hounding of Wasson from Blackburn, he brought that upon himself as he posted his personal stats that are clearly false on a public blog that many players, coaches, and fans of the sliac read every day. Im not saying he is the only player in the SLIAC that is commenting on this board, but no one else has bragged about their POP time or any other stat. Jawing is a part of any sport and especially baseball. This takes place at every level including the professional and little league levels. If you cant handle the Webster University bench players giving you a hard time while you are trying to compete you are not a very mentally strong ball player. Need i remind you folks of the Tampa Bay heckler from a few years back. That man used to give the players all hell and they still went out and competed every day, and no they are a winning team.


As for the childishness that only takes place at Webster games. Have you ever attended a Blackburn game at home? Im guessing not? Their have some of the worst fans in respect to that they talk mess the entire game.

Maybe Webster would have given up the trash talking if Blackburn wasnt known as a dirty team. Last year they had 2 altercations with Webster as they threw at them in the game. This year a Blackburn pitcher reatliated to a hit batsmen by Will Savage and threw at Fuiten's head. That is CLASSLESS to its maximum.

At the end of the day Webster wins their games, and needs to be challenged in the SLIAC. Credit to Blackburn as they had Webster beat for 5 innings but in the end Webster took over and came thru with timely hitting and won the ball game.




First I'm glad you pointed out it is "fans" at other venues not players and other schools they handle issues on the field in the game as it should be done. Shouting insults from the bench is bush.

I am also glad you confirmed that it is splinter pickers doing the trash talk. Most of your players on the field won't stoop to the bench guys level.

Lastly, atleast you admit that you guys trash talk to get back at other teams. Instead of handling it on the field like men you call names like the little girls on a playground. As for my playing career I'll let you know when you pass me up. Oh your a bench rider at Webster sorry you won't.   




You might be the biggest joke on d3boards, you make my day so much more comical than it already is.
First of all no one was doing any name calling(are we in third grade here?)
Second the bench players i referred to were the Webster Pitchers(who dominate the SLIAC just in case you didnt know) and were not in the game at that point in time.
AND FINALLY, how does webster not take care of on the field when they have won 29 straight conference home games. And they have won the SLIAC 3 years( go ahead and make it 4 already this year) in a row.
And you only wish i played for Webster just to make youself look better, but i keep my self in the stands for every game and enjoy watching the best team in the SLIAC destroy every conference team they play.


Thank you videodawg i will be here all day.

VideoDawg

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Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 06, 2009, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 06, 2009, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good post oneandonly. As you know I was at the Webster/Blackburn game and felt that Blackburn had more than an opportunity to win the first game of the doubleheader. So I hope you don't think that I am a hater.

It is too bad that Wasson is leaving. He had real potential and he was quite impressive behind that plate. However he was a freshman and made freshman mistakes.

The most disturbing thing about the Webster/Blackburn game was the constant personal riding that Wasson took from the Webster bench. They never mentioned his name but they were on him all game long. Probably stemming from a possible post from him on this site about his "pop time". I hope he didn't leave because of the relentless riding at Webster.

I have never made an issue of this because baseball is about wins and stats. But the Webster team is a poor ambassador for the SLIAC and for their school. They are constantly making personal attacks on other teams to the point that although they have had good teams and a good facility I rarely visit their ballpark. They are truly poor sports. And it is not just the players, against Blackburn the announcer purposely mispronounced the Blackburn players names all game long. That kind of childishness only happens at Webster games.

Anyway this has been a disturbing trend at Webster for the past couple of years. If a young man asked me about playing at Webster I would tell him to go somewhere else. Good team but low class, low rent attitude. They need some class lessons from Principia. 




Are you serious with this post. Do you honestly think that someone who volunteers to do division 3 baseball announcing would purposely mess up an athletes name just to embarass them. Webster's announcer has struggled with names all year long and honestly tries his best with the names. As for the hounding of Wasson from Blackburn, he brought that upon himself as he posted his personal stats that are clearly false on a public blog that many players, coaches, and fans of the sliac read every day. Im not saying he is the only player in the SLIAC that is commenting on this board, but no one else has bragged about their POP time or any other stat. Jawing is a part of any sport and especially baseball. This takes place at every level including the professional and little league levels. If you cant handle the Webster University bench players giving you a hard time while you are trying to compete you are not a very mentally strong ball player. Need i remind you folks of the Tampa Bay heckler from a few years back. That man used to give the players all hell and they still went out and competed every day, and no they are a winning team.


As for the childishness that only takes place at Webster games. Have you ever attended a Blackburn game at home? Im guessing not? Their have some of the worst fans in respect to that they talk mess the entire game.

Maybe Webster would have given up the trash talking if Blackburn wasnt known as a dirty team. Last year they had 2 altercations with Webster as they threw at them in the game. This year a Blackburn pitcher reatliated to a hit batsmen by Will Savage and threw at Fuiten's head. That is CLASSLESS to its maximum.

At the end of the day Webster wins their games, and needs to be challenged in the SLIAC. Credit to Blackburn as they had Webster beat for 5 innings but in the end Webster took over and came thru with timely hitting and won the ball game.




First I'm glad you pointed out it is "fans" at other venues not players and other schools they handle issues on the field in the game as it should be done. Shouting insults from the bench is bush.

I am also glad you confirmed that it is splinter pickers doing the trash talk. Most of your players on the field won't stoop to the bench guys level.

Lastly, atleast you admit that you guys trash talk to get back at other teams. Instead of handling it on the field like men you call names like the little girls on a playground. As for my playing career I'll let you know when you pass me up. Oh your a bench rider at Webster sorry you won't.   




You might be the biggest joke on d3boards, you make my day so much more comical than it already is.
First of all no one was doing any name calling(are we in third grade here?)
Second the bench players i referred to were the Webster Pitchers(who dominate the SLIAC just in case you didnt know) and were not in the game at that point in time.
AND FINALLY, how does webster not take care of on the field when they have won 29 straight conference home games. And they have won the SLIAC 3 years( go ahead and make it 4 already this year) in a row.
And you only wish i played for Webster just to make youself look better, but i keep my self in the stands for every game and enjoy watching the best team in the SLIAC destroy every conference team they play.


Thank you videodawg i will be here all day.

WOW look at Webster's stats in the conference. You are not dominating in the pitching categories. More wins in conference yes but all other stats you are not dominating at all.

You have no idea what I mean by taking care of business on the field? You play college ball? Your hitter that got plucked on the head was probably a pitcher taking care of business on the field. That is how it is done in baseball. Shouting pop times from the bench is bush league.

VideoDawg

Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 05:41:27 AM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 05, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 05, 2009, 09:52:44 PM
Fontbonne- not as good as advertised. will be tough to compete in the SLIAC let alone the country with a pitching staff such as the one they threw against webster. Double header today was not pretty for the griffins as they surrendered 25 runs in 2 games while only scoring 3. First game was dominated by webster hitting while the defense of fontbonne was on par for a junior high team. Need to improve all aspects of their game to compete.

Webster- Dominated series against Fontbonne proving why they are the most dominate team in the SLIAC as they have been since Bill Kurich Took over 2 years ago. First game in the series was a blowout even though Webster's best hitter Fuiten struggled with 3 strikeouts. Quintus threw a great game and was followed up by a very strong bullpen. First game of double header today was dominated by great pitching from Broughton and strong hitting(4 homeruns) by the entire Gorlok offense. Also dominating for the gorlok's in the first game was the fontbonne defense as they surrendered 5 errors in the field. Second game was dominated again by webster pitching as Will savage surrendered 2 hits and 1 run in 7 innings of work. Webster bats came through with very timely hitting and put up 8 more runs on the board.

Webster proved that they are a force to be reckoned with in the conference and can do some major damage in the national tournament. Many people are fooled by their slow start but the gorloks have found their niche and found a lineup that has been smashing opponents pitching. They also have found a very solid 3 to 4 man rotation that has kept them in games and keeps them winning in the SLIAC(11-0).


On a lighter note, Congrats to Webster's freshman catcher Dustin List as he got his collegiate hitting career underway as he pounded a Fontbonne fastball over the left field fence for a 2 run homerun in the first game of the double header.

A little chicken counting going on. This years team simple doesn't compare to last years very strong Webster team. They are doing very well against SLIAC teams that aren't playing their best and in what I think is an overall down year in the conference. I hope I am wrong but this team is no where near as strong. Time will tell. 




Who's counting chickens. No one has mentioned post season yet besides you, who's sliac favorites have already fallen. Now it seems like you're just trying to find problems with a team that is dominating the conference. If you remember, last years team started out in the same boat but actually lost more conference games at this point. Webster has already beat IW and Keystone, two very strong teams. And how big poppa is even considering that Wash U is in a better postition is rediculous after Fontbonne beat them. Learn something from the competition. Webster is just now comming into their own in pitching, fielding and hitting. Webster faced strongly some of the best teams around, and even though the record might not show it, will cause some problems in the post season. Get out and watch games instead of forming oppinions based on nothing.

I did see the games today and want to say that Dan Horn did a great job. A small bright spot on the dull season of Fontbonne.

I apologize for not responding sooner I was dealing with other issues. You say that "no one is mentioning the post season" look at the post I quoted. "Webster proved that they are a force to be reckoned with in the conference and can do some major damage in the national tournament." Nuff said.

I have seen plenty of games and have been going to St. Louis area games for years and my opinion is that the SLIAC is down this year. Can that change? You bet. I hope it does. But like I said "Time will tell."

You are awfully defensive. What's the deal?   

HangEmBangEm

Well first, I was responding more to the chicken counting comment not trying to be defensive. Just trying to prove that Webster has played some good national competition and did not do badly. No anger here ha just trying to throw my two cents in.  I won't say they will or will not make a run in the post season, but we can't compare last years team to this one, both had different strengths and weaknesses. For instance, overall the defense this year is substantially better than last year, but yes there is no brett mueller. but overall the pitching staff has done their job shutting down teams. Whether leading in stats or not, the W-L collumn is the only one that matters.

Second, I do agree that the conference teams i have seen are not as good as last year this is true. But thats why teams play out of conference games, to prove themselves. I believe if you would have seen some of the other Webster games you would have a different oppinion of them. To be honest the blackburn game and one fontbonne game are the only two games where jawing was taking place. This is because of the way teams acted last year. This is not a conference trend. I believe rivalry has a little bit to do with it and thats that. But they did handle their business on the field as well. If hitting Andrew Fuiten was their way of handling business that is ok. I believe its more irresponsible and bush league when you start throwing at batters heads, so how about we let the scores do the talking for once.

Lastly, I will get defensive when people start to attack an announcer that does not get paid. Now bringing school quality into this board is just plain wrong. And I believe bringing anything personal against his way of doing things is just plain crule. So what, he has trouble with BOTH teams names, and has had these problems for MULTIPLE YEARS.  No one has complained before. This is the sole reason I am defensive, bringing him and the school quality into this is just morally wrong.

Sorry for the long post.

VideoDawg

Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 06:43:13 PM
Well first, I was responding more to the chicken counting comment not trying to be defensive. Just trying to prove that Webster has played some good national competition and did not do badly. No anger here ha just trying to throw my two cents in.  I won't say they will or will not make a run in the post season, but we can't compare last years team to this one, both had different strengths and weaknesses. For instance, overall the defense this year is substantially better than last year, but yes there is no brett mueller. but overall the pitching staff has done their job shutting down teams. Whether leading in stats or not, the W-L collumn is the only one that matters.

Second, I do agree that the conference teams i have seen are not as good as last year this is true. But thats why teams play out of conference games, to prove themselves. I believe if you would have seen some of the other Webster games you would have a different oppinion of them. To be honest the blackburn game and one fontbonne game are the only two games where jawing was taking place. This is because of the way teams acted last year. This is not a conference trend. I believe rivalry has a little bit to do with it and thats that. But they did handle their business on the field as well. If hitting Andrew Fuiten was their way of handling business that is ok. I believe its more irresponsible and bush league when you start throwing at batters heads, so how about we let the scores do the talking for once.

Lastly, I will get defensive when people start to attack an announcer that does not get paid. Now bringing school quality into this board is just plain wrong. And I believe bringing anything personal against his way of doing things is just plain crule. So what, he has trouble with BOTH teams names, and has had these problems for MULTIPLE YEARS.  No one has complained before. This is the sole reason I am defensive, bringing him and the school quality into this is just morally wrong.

Sorry for the long post.

Good post. I have seen the negative side of other schools in the league. Blackburn a couple of years ago was absolutely bush in their onfield antics. And there are others that fit that description.

On the announcer, all I would say is that even if it is a volunteer position, a school has to look out for its public image. They should move him to a non-public position. I would pitch a fit if my alma mater had someone annoucing that was so poor at it volunteer or not.

A couple examples of the mispronunciations were Cadle pronounces ca-dolly or Spala pronounced Spa-lolly. What was odd was that he got the names right the first time through the order. As an impartial observer of a fun and exciting first game it sure seemed like the poor pronunciations were intentional. I know every one around me thought it was intentional and embarassing for the school (both blackburn and webster fans).

Lastly I get to 4 or 5 Webster games a season. I must just go to the ones where they are riding other players.

bballnerd1967

videodawg,


you continue to talk about how teams handle themselves on the field and how they play the game, yet you continue to bash websters announcer. Frankly who cares who good or bad someone announces the game. People are at the game to watch what is taking place on the field.

And on websters bush league yelling out of POP time. How many everyday fans and parents even know what a pop time is? Bush league is throwing at players such as Blackburn did to Webster. Most of the parents were probably saying oo theres another crazy chant by webster.

And again who cares what is said on the bench, in the stands,  or on this stupid board.
Webster goes out every single game, gives their all, and just man handles their opponents. Maybe that is why they are 11-0 in conference this year and have dominated the SLIAC since Bill Kurich took over.

And enough about the national scene for these teams. The SLIAC is compared to a mid major conference in division 1 sports and has proven that they can compete with the nationally ranked programs.
Although webster has looked bad on occasions(such as in their Florida Trip, and against wartburg, who is no bad team at all, and concordia) they still have beaten Illinois Wesleyan(#16) at the team, and were beating Cortland St.(#9 at the time) until they surrendered runs late.

If you dont mind my asking, who are you a fan of from this conference? Are You Alumni anywhere?
and once again you question if i am a member of Webster's Baseball program, but i am not, im just an everyday supporter of those guys and enjoy watchin them play

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 06:43:13 PM
Well first, I was responding more to the chicken counting comment not trying to be defensive. Just trying to prove that Webster has played some good national competition and did not do badly. No anger here ha just trying to throw my two cents in.  I won't say they will or will not make a run in the post season, but we can't compare last years team to this one, both had different strengths and weaknesses. For instance, overall the defense this year is substantially better than last year, but yes there is no brett mueller. but overall the pitching staff has done their job shutting down teams. Whether leading in stats or not, the W-L collumn is the only one that matters.

Second, I do agree that the conference teams i have seen are not as good as last year this is true. But thats why teams play out of conference games, to prove themselves. I believe if you would have seen some of the other Webster games you would have a different oppinion of them. To be honest the blackburn game and one fontbonne game are the only two games where jawing was taking place. This is because of the way teams acted last year. This is not a conference trend. I believe rivalry has a little bit to do with it and thats that. But they did handle their business on the field as well. If hitting Andrew Fuiten was their way of handling business that is ok. I believe its more irresponsible and bush league when you start throwing at batters heads, so how about we let the scores do the talking for once.

Lastly, I will get defensive when people start to attack an announcer that does not get paid. Now bringing school quality into this board is just plain wrong. And I believe bringing anything personal against his way of doing things is just plain crule. So what, he has trouble with BOTH teams names, and has had these problems for MULTIPLE YEARS.  No one has complained before. This is the sole reason I am defensive, bringing him and the school quality into this is just morally wrong.

Sorry for the long post.

Good post. I have seen the negative side of other schools in the league. Blackburn a couple of years ago was absolutely bush in their onfield antics. And there are others that fit that description.

On the announcer, all I would say is that even if it is a volunteer position, a school has to look out for its public image. They should move him to a non-public position. I would pitch a fit if my alma mater had someone annoucing that was so poor at it volunteer or not.

A couple examples of the mispronunciations were Cadle pronounces ca-dolly or Spala pronounced Spa-lolly. What was odd was that he got the names right the first time through the order. As an impartial observer of a fun and exciting first game it sure seemed like the poor pronunciations were intentional. I know every one around me thought it was intentional and embarassing for the school (both blackburn and webster fans).

Lastly I get to 4 or 5 Webster games a season. I must just go to the ones where they are riding other players.




Ya I see your point here, but to be honest he does seem to talk more than most to talk and keep the game interesting. I agree that he could work more on the names, but all in all i dont see it being THAT big of a distraction that it would affect the game. Also most places do have problems with names, I havent heard raetslofs sp? ha... or Fuitens name pronounced right yet at other fields. I will disagree though that I dont believe i heard Cadle's name pronounced right the whole night. That one was consistantly wrong. But all in all not a big deal if you ask me. Glad that's resolved though. Now back to baseball.

VideoDawg

I will respond to your concerns one at a time.

I was answering a question about the announcer. I just think he is a bad choice to represent the school if he really can't pronounce names right. It makes the school look bad. No other SLAIC school has that issue. Others around me thought the same thing and even Webster folks had no explanation. I am sure he's a great guy, he just needs another position so the school doesn't look so bad in the eyes of visitors and public, if indeed he just can't pronounce simple names.

The point on shouting out the pop times was to irritate the catcher not to irritate the fans. I would say that only a handful of fans knew what was going on. But it was not about the fans or even the catcher, it is about Webster players purposely insulting the catcher of another team. That is bush for sure.

I don't know if the Blackburn player threw intentionally or not I just know a bench player should ask that question after someone gets plunked. "Did my loud mouth and poor sportsmanship just cause my teammate to get hit?" I am sure that question never even occurred to guys that don't bat. The guy that got hit didn't run his mouth all game long. By the way he's a heck of a player and I have never seen a bad attitude come from him. He seems to be a class guy.  

If you don't care what is "said on this stupid board" then quit responding.

I don't doubt Webster gives their all. I also agree that they are a good team and the best in the SLIAC right now. I just maintain that a lot of their players are childish and immature and as a result do not represent the school or the SLIAC well.

I have been watching the SLIAC for years and I honestly don't care about other national teams or standings, I just like to watch baseball. However, I do believe the SLIAC is not as strong as usual.

I am a fan of all baseball and get to see several teams in the St. Louis area. Some people collect stamps, others butterflies, I watch baseball games. And as you can see from all of my previous post that I wish all the teams well. This run of posts was the first time that I called a team out for behavior I usually stick to play on the field and stats. But I also make observations based on decades of coaching baseball and playing baseball. When I see something I will say it and simply put making fun of another ball player is beneath the SLIAC and is very bush. If you can't agree with that I guess we really have very little to talk about.

VideoDawg

Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: VideoDawg on April 06, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 06, 2009, 06:43:13 PM
Well first, I was responding more to the chicken counting comment not trying to be defensive. Just trying to prove that Webster has played some good national competition and did not do badly. No anger here ha just trying to throw my two cents in.  I won't say they will or will not make a run in the post season, but we can't compare last years team to this one, both had different strengths and weaknesses. For instance, overall the defense this year is substantially better than last year, but yes there is no brett mueller. but overall the pitching staff has done their job shutting down teams. Whether leading in stats or not, the W-L collumn is the only one that matters.

Second, I do agree that the conference teams i have seen are not as good as last year this is true. But thats why teams play out of conference games, to prove themselves. I believe if you would have seen some of the other Webster games you would have a different oppinion of them. To be honest the blackburn game and one fontbonne game are the only two games where jawing was taking place. This is because of the way teams acted last year. This is not a conference trend. I believe rivalry has a little bit to do with it and thats that. But they did handle their business on the field as well. If hitting Andrew Fuiten was their way of handling business that is ok. I believe its more irresponsible and bush league when you start throwing at batters heads, so how about we let the scores do the talking for once.

Lastly, I will get defensive when people start to attack an announcer that does not get paid. Now bringing school quality into this board is just plain wrong. And I believe bringing anything personal against his way of doing things is just plain crule. So what, he has trouble with BOTH teams names, and has had these problems for MULTIPLE YEARS.  No one has complained before. This is the sole reason I am defensive, bringing him and the school quality into this is just morally wrong.

Sorry for the long post.

Good post. I have seen the negative side of other schools in the league. Blackburn a couple of years ago was absolutely bush in their onfield antics. And there are others that fit that description.

On the announcer, all I would say is that even if it is a volunteer position, a school has to look out for its public image. They should move him to a non-public position. I would pitch a fit if my alma mater had someone annoucing that was so poor at it volunteer or not.

A couple examples of the mispronunciations were Cadle pronounces ca-dolly or Spala pronounced Spa-lolly. What was odd was that he got the names right the first time through the order. As an impartial observer of a fun and exciting first game it sure seemed like the poor pronunciations were intentional. I know every one around me thought it was intentional and embarassing for the school (both blackburn and webster fans).

Lastly I get to 4 or 5 Webster games a season. I must just go to the ones where they are riding other players.




Ya I see your point here, but to be honest he does seem to talk more than most to talk and keep the game interesting. I agree that he could work more on the names, but all in all i dont see it being THAT big of a distraction that it would affect the game. Also most places do have problems with names, I havent heard raetslofs sp? ha... or Fuitens name pronounced right yet at other fields. I will disagree though that I dont believe i heard Cadle's name pronounced right the whole night. That one was consistantly wrong. But all in all not a big deal if you ask me. Glad that's resolved though. Now back to baseball.

AMEN BACK TO BASEBALL.

VideoDawg

Did anyone get any games in today?
Scores updates?

VideoDawg

I'll answer myself. Looks like the only game played was Principia at Blackburn. The Beavers won 10-1. A good night to be the largest rodent in North American.