BB: SLIAC: St Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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theoneandonly

its pretty sad that when someone comes on here and talks trash we fill up 5 pages and when we come on here and talk baseball, no one comments. sad.
Baseball players get to every base.

VideoDawg

Ok I'll start trash talking. ;)

Actually there are some surprises so far this season, but I feel it is still too early to count anyone out. Some teams have played just over a half dozen games and the team stats could swing wildly.

Blackburn needs to split this week take two out of the next four. If they do they are legit and should be in the post season. They need pitching, but more importantly great defense. What are they doing about the catcher situation?


   

HangEmBangEm

Webster takes the third game from Blackburn at Blackburn. Definitely didn't see any crazy antics or roudy fans. I was slightly dissapointed. Both teams seemed well behaved, no "bushleague"  yelling this time. Webster won 18 to 4 I believe. Something like that. Anyone else play today? Scores?

bballnerd1967

well i know our genius panel of D3 board sportswriters has decided to ignore my posts(are we in third grade? Videodawg must be your parents saying if you ignore him he will go away?) but im still here and im going to put my 2 cents in.


Well for all of you who thought websters yelling at a player for being outrageous and posting personal stats on d3boards, heres an even better one from Blackburn.

Todays game was stopped in the top of the first inning after the Raetzloff walked to begin the game so that a Blackburn player could come rake the field. Whats the significance? Well after the play Blackburns first baseman is quoted on saying to Raetzloff that their coach watered the field down on purpose so it would interfere with Webster's baserunning specifically stealing. Not only is this the most Busch League thing on earth but it interfered with the game as it had to be stopped for 10 minutes.

I dont ever want to hear anything from the high and mighty Videodawg about Webster being classless, because Blackburn is the most classless team in the country by doing crap like this.



And as for the game, i thought this was supposed to be Webster's first real test? A 13 point Win is certainly not a test at all.

Well pitched game by the Gorloks(Duhadaway, Stanley, Gebhardt). Ball was stung well by the gorloks even though there was a tough wind blowing in the whole game. Fuiten had another good game as usual, but the biggest output of offense came from such a small source(literally and figuratively) Aaron Senzell. Senzell came though with many clutch hits and was spanking the ball with authority.

Big W for the Gorloks and should get their fourth win of the week after saturday's double header at Macmurray.

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 08, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
well i know our genius panel of D3 board sportswriters has decided to ignore my posts(are we in third grade? Videodawg must be your parents saying if you ignore him he will go away?) but im still here and im going to put my 2 cents in.


Well for all of you who thought websters yelling at a player for being outrageous and posting personal stats on d3boards, heres an even better one from Blackburn.

Todays game was stopped in the top of the first inning after the Raetzloff walked to begin the game so that a Blackburn player could come rake the field. Whats the significance? Well after the play Blackburns first baseman is quoted on saying to Raetzloff that their coach watered the field down on purpose so it would interfere with Webster's baserunning specifically stealing. Not only is this the most Busch League thing on earth but it interfered with the game as it had to be stopped for 10 minutes.

I dont ever want to hear anything from the high and mighty Videodawg about Webster being classless, because Blackburn is the most classless team in the country by doing crap like this.



And as for the game, i thought this was supposed to be Webster's first real test? A 13 point Win is certainly not a test at all.

Well pitched game by the Gorloks(Duhadaway, Stanley, Gebhardt). Ball was stung well by the gorloks even though there was a tough wind blowing in the whole game. Fuiten had another good game as usual, but the biggest output of offense came from such a small source(literally and figuratively) Aaron Senzell. Senzell came though with many clutch hits and was spanking the ball with authority.

Big W for the Gorloks and should get their fourth win of the week after saturday's double header at Macmurray.




I mean i will agree with the fact that the whole field was dry besides the one spot where everyone gets their leads. I also overheard conversations where Blackburn players were pissed at the way Coach Neal did this. So i wouldnt say that they are the most classless team in the country. Just a little bit harsh. Neal has done this for the last two years that I've been able to make it to the blackburn games. I heard they were using their best pitcher in the catcher spot sometimes?? As for the true test, I still believe this will be the Maryville series.


BTW we use runs here nerd... Ha :D

bballnerd1967

you right pretty harsh, but im just a little heated that im gettin attacked when videodawg was the one on here startin the arguments...and you are correct baseball is runs, i was still in final four mode

WashedUP07

Suprised that this game wasnt closer Blackburn usually plays tough at home, always windy out there. Guess the rivalry has somewhat fizzled out.
2nd Team All-Arnold

MyArmHurts

Coach Neal's base toss was one of my most memorable baseball moments.  At least he has a pulse.  Your right WashedUp, Blackburn was always a tough place to play.  I guess Webster has exercised (or is it exorcised) those demons.

theoneandonly

walks KILLED Blackburn yesterday.. that and the fact that Webster got base hit after base hit, then double after double. They played very well and basically steamrolled over blackburn. Just so everyone knows many teams do the bush league, watering down the field. Some also let the grass grow longer if they want the ball to roll slowly or cut it short if they they want it to get to their infielders quick, Same deal with the outfield.  I hate to say it but this is used in more than one sport and isint necessarily bush league, its stratedgy. Obviously it didnt matter yesterday so we should be able to get past that small bit of information.
Baseball players get to every base.

MyArmHurts

I'm not even a Blackburn fan, but I'm OK with the watering of the infield.  I think cheating is when you do something to give YOURSELF a competitive edge.  Blackburn had to take a leadoff in the same area that Webster did.  If you leave the grass long to slow down ground balls, the other team has to play on the same infield.  Bush league, maybe.  Cheating, not so much.  Obviously it didn't give Blackburn the edge they thought it would. 

When Kenny Rogers used pine tar against the Cardinals in the '06 WS, that was cheating. 

theoneandonly

Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 08, 2009, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: bballnerd1967 on April 08, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
well i know our genius panel of D3 board sportswriters has decided to ignore my posts(are we in third grade? Videodawg must be your parents saying if you ignore him he will go away?) but im still here and im going to put my 2 cents in.


Well for all of you who thought websters yelling at a player for being outrageous and posting personal stats on d3boards, heres an even better one from Blackburn.

Todays game was stopped in the top of the first inning after the Raetzloff walked to begin the game so that a Blackburn player could come rake the field. Whats the significance? Well after the play Blackburns first baseman is quoted on saying to Raetzloff that their coach watered the field down on purpose so it would interfere with Webster's baserunning specifically stealing. Not only is this the most Busch League thing on earth but it interfered with the game as it had to be stopped for 10 minutes.

I dont ever want to hear anything from the high and mighty Videodawg about Webster being classless, because Blackburn is the most classless team in the country by doing crap like this.



And as for the game, i thought this was supposed to be Webster's first real test? A 13 point Win is certainly not a test at all.

Well pitched game by the Gorloks(Duhadaway, Stanley, Gebhardt). Ball was stung well by the gorloks even though there was a tough wind blowing in the whole game. Fuiten had another good game as usual, but the biggest output of offense came from such a small source(literally and figuratively) Aaron Senzell. Senzell came though with many clutch hits and was spanking the ball with authority.

Big W for the Gorloks and should get their fourth win of the week after saturday's double header at Macmurray.




I mean i will agree with the fact that the whole field was dry besides the one spot where everyone gets their leads. I also overheard conversations where Blackburn players were pissed at the way Coach Neal did this. So i wouldnt say that they are the most classless team in the country. Just a little bit harsh. Neal has done this for the last two years that I've been able to make it to the blackburn games. I heard they were using their best pitcher in the catcher spot sometimes?? As for the true test, I still believe this will be the Maryville series.


BTW we use runs here nerd... Ha :D

This so called best pitcher has a 9.00+ era this season so perhaps he was destined to be behind the plate ha!
Baseball players get to every base.

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: MyArmHurts on April 09, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
I'm not even a Blackburn fan, but I'm OK with the watering of the infield.  I think cheating is when you do something to give YOURSELF a competitive edge.  Blackburn had to take a leadoff in the same area that Webster did.  If you leave the grass long to slow down ground balls, the other team has to play on the same infield.  Bush league, maybe.  Cheating, not so much.  Obviously it didn't give Blackburn the edge they thought it would. 

When Kenny Rogers used pine tar against the Cardinals in the '06 WS, that was cheating. 


Unless I missed something, Blackburn did not have one stolen base attempt in the 3 game series. So with a Webster team wanting to run and a Blackburn team that obviously knew they wouldnt or couldn't, this is giving them a competitive edge by taking away a strength of Webster.  But theoneandonly is right and it didn't matter yesterday, but could make a difference to some of the other teams they do play because Blackburn obviously has no catcher at the moment. So other teams will look to run. As for saying a lot of teams do it, I have honestly never seen anyone else do it. So either I just got lucky or it doesn't happen as much as people want to think.

theoneandonly

In all retrospect, no one is stopped from doing this. There are no rules against it, theres nothing that stops any team from doing it. PLUS like stated before it also prevents BLACKBURN from stealing as well, so its a double edged sword.
Baseball players get to every base.

theoneandonly

Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 09, 2009, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: MyArmHurts on April 09, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
I'm not even a Blackburn fan, but I'm OK with the watering of the infield.  I think cheating is when you do something to give YOURSELF a competitive edge.  Blackburn had to take a leadoff in the same area that Webster did.  If you leave the grass long to slow down ground balls, the other team has to play on the same infield.  Bush league, maybe.  Cheating, not so much.  Obviously it didn't give Blackburn the edge they thought it would. 

When Kenny Rogers used pine tar against the Cardinals in the '06 WS, that was cheating. 


Unless I missed something, Blackburn did not have one stolen base attempt in the 3 game series. So with a Webster team wanting to run and a Blackburn team that obviously knew they wouldnt or couldn't, this is giving them a competitive edge by taking away a strength of Webster.  But theoneandonly is right and it didn't matter yesterday, but could make a difference to some of the other teams they do play because Blackburn obviously has no catcher at the moment. So other teams will look to run. As for saying a lot of teams do it, I have honestly never seen anyone else do it. So either I just got lucky or it doesn't happen as much as people want to think.

Just to feed you some info, Blackburn Has successfully stolen 25 bases, and webster 41. Stolen bases are not out of the picture for blackburn. In those couple of windy games the runners didnt need to be stealing because the team was already down so much
Baseball players get to every base.

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: theoneandonly on April 09, 2009, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: HangEmBangEm on April 09, 2009, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: MyArmHurts on April 09, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
I'm not even a Blackburn fan, but I'm OK with the watering of the infield.  I think cheating is when you do something to give YOURSELF a competitive edge.  Blackburn had to take a leadoff in the same area that Webster did.  If you leave the grass long to slow down ground balls, the other team has to play on the same infield.  Bush league, maybe.  Cheating, not so much.  Obviously it didn't give Blackburn the edge they thought it would. 

When Kenny Rogers used pine tar against the Cardinals in the '06 WS, that was cheating. 


Unless I missed something, Blackburn did not have one stolen base attempt in the 3 game series. So with a Webster team wanting to run and a Blackburn team that obviously knew they wouldnt or couldn't, this is giving them a competitive edge by taking away a strength of Webster.  But theoneandonly is right and it didn't matter yesterday, but could make a difference to some of the other teams they do play because Blackburn obviously has no catcher at the moment. So other teams will look to run. As for saying a lot of teams do it, I have honestly never seen anyone else do it. So either I just got lucky or it doesn't happen as much as people want to think.

Just to feed you some info, Blackburn Has successfully stolen 25 bases, and webster 41. Stolen bases are not out of the picture for blackburn. In those couple of windy games the runners didnt need to be stealing because the team was already down so much



So early in games and even in the game they were winning they did not attempt. So obviously they did not think they could run. I was obviously proven right by their lack of attempts in every game. If they were a stealing threat they could have put pressure on the defense/pitcher/backupcatcher and force mistakes. They did not. What more is there for me to prove about this situation. I dont see where statistics has a part of this argument when the three games have already been played, the truth is laid of for us.