BB: SLIAC: St Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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flyonthewall

depew your being unreal right now. saying that I said having more seniors means more heart is completely wrong...  Raetzloff has been around all 4 years and like I said, Maryville has 5 who have faced more adversity than Webster has. THEREFORE, I think Maryville has more heart. Whether or not heart affects the outcome of a game or not is hard to judge, but I think that heart can have a big impact in a game where two teams are evenly matched.  I don't think  Webster is THAT much better than Maryville and if it comes down to a close game, I think that heart will come into play. I brought up the Maryville having 5 seniors because they have been through the adversity of losing seasons and playing as freshman, and I think it will have an impact on their season this year as seniors. I think that they will want it really bad. I never once brought up Webster being better than any other team in the SLIAC, I simply was talking about having heart and wanting it more than any other team. Quit putting down other people to build yourself up, like you said, you can be as tough as you want on these message boards and it looks stupid.

Speaking of Webster, when is Combs supposed to be back?

HangEmBangEm

Quote from: flyonthewall on April 14, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
depew your being unreal right now. saying that I said having more seniors means more heart is completely wrong...  Raetzloff has been around all 4 years and like I said, Maryville has 5 who have faced more adversity than Webster has. THEREFORE, I think Maryville has more heart. Whether or not heart affects the outcome of a game or not is hard to judge, but I think that heart can have a big impact in a game where two teams are evenly matched.  I don't think  Webster is THAT much better than Maryville and if it comes down to a close game, I think that heart will come into play. I brought up the Maryville having 5 seniors because they have been through the adversity of losing seasons and playing as freshman, and I think it will have an impact on their season this year as seniors. I think that they will want it really bad. I never once brought up Webster being better than any other team in the SLIAC, I simply was talking about having heart and wanting it more than any other team. Quit putting down other people to build yourself up, like you said, you can be as tough as you want on these message boards and it looks stupid.

Speaking of Webster, when is Combs supposed to be back?


Not trying to be argumentative... Well maybe a little bit, for some fun ha. But wouldn't losing seasons get you accustomed to losing? And I would disagree that this is the type of adversity that will help in the long run. Now Webster has had adversity too, having two players that could have made a strong impact decide not to play and also losing a CAPTAIN for most of the season. Overcoming this adversity seems like good adversity to take into the post season. And i don't believe that maryville has faced the competition that Webster has, therefore I think the Maryville stats are slightly deceiving if you believe that Webster and Maryville are evenly matched. I think that Webster should handle Maryville easily. Now like i have said in the past, I think Maryville could make a game or two interesting if Webster doesnt play like they have been this whole season. Also, with Webster getting a little taste of success last year in the post season, I believe they have a deeper drive and need for the post season. But of course, who wouldnt "want it really bad" haha if they didn't they wouldn't step on the field.... Once again, don't take criticism to heart. This is all in my oppinion..

I have heard Combs has been throwing, but has yet to hit.

depew24

Fly,

That's fine that they have 5 players that have been around for 4 years but that does not mean they have more heart. That's a ridiculous statement. That's fine if you think that but I happen to disagree and thanks to this great country we can disagree. It's just unfortunate that you're wrong. I do know that WU wants it pretty bad after being 3 outs away from the college world series last season. They went through a lot a learned a lot getting there. I'm not putting people down that did not first do it to me.

By the way, you just contradicted your self.

"depew your being unreal right now. saying that I said having more seniors means more heart is completely wrong" and "Raetzloff has been around all 4 years and like I said, Maryville has 5 who have faced more adversity than Webster has. THEREFORE, I think Maryville has more heart." are saying the same thing.

We have a lot of players that have played for multiple teams, they have been through a change in school, I think that means that they have been through more adversity than being in one place the whole time.

Heart may have a little impact when the teams are evenly matched BUTTTTTT in this case WU is a much better team than Maryville so it doesn't matter.

BigPoppa

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STOP ACTING LIKE FIVE YEAR OLDS!!!!!!!!!! You guys are driving me nuts! Grow up and agree to disagree.

FYI: The last time I checked, the team that scored the most runs won, not the team with the most heart or the team with the most seniors or even the team witht the best uniforms. Some of you have turned this forum into a high school lunch room... STOP IT.

If you need to attack one another do it in a private message so those like me do not have to sift through 35 posts of junior high crap to find one or two valuable bits of information.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

depew24


BigPoppa

Quote from: depew24 on April 14, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
No one is posting useful infomation

Agreed. Most of what happens on the SLIAC board is a bunch of homers bashing other teams. A few posters provide valauble information at times, but how are we (myself and others) supposed to give your posts any credibility if the majority of your wording is useless or mean-spirited?

A few of you showed great promise early in the season as someone I could lean on for valuable SLIAC info, but the more this plays out, I feel I am wasting my time on the SLAIC board. Use this forum to promote your teams, not tear down others.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

depew24


HangEmBangEm

Quote from: BigPoppa on April 14, 2009, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: depew24 on April 14, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
No one is posting useful infomation

Agreed. Most of what happens on the SLIAC board is a bunch of homers bashing other teams. A few posters provide valauble information at times, but how are we (myself and others) supposed to give your posts any credibility if the majority of your wording is useless or mean-spirited?

A few of you showed great promise early in the season as someone I could lean on for valuable SLIAC info, but the more this plays out, I feel I am wasting my time on the SLAIC board. Use this forum to promote your teams, not tear down others.



Well most of us go to games and already have a pretty good understanding for it's players and teams alike. So if you would like to know something or have us keep you posted, ask a question. Any of us would be more than willing to help out. But not a whole lot of usefull information to give out quite yet, Webster is domination. Maryville has the 2 spot locked right now.

WashedUP07

Batting avg
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1. Norvell, John, MUBS........  .524
2. Huckstep, Robert, MUBS.....  .452
10.Allerdissen, Bill, MUBS....  .387
15.Henkelman, Chad, MUBS......  .358

Should be an interesting test for WU pitching tonight as Maryville has the majority of the hot bats in the SLIAC.
2nd Team All-Arnold

theoneandonly

To try to bring back some credibility to this board I am going to REPOST my last post and then add some info about yesterdays  two games.

-On to new things, has anyone noticed the rediculous schedule that Blackburn will host the rest of this week? If not heres a run down (IF IT DOESNT GET RAINED OUT OF COURSE)

April 15th: Eastern Illinois University(24-6) -On a side note this team has also
                                                                      beat #15 Oklahoma

                                                                    -Have Brett Nommensen (.521, 11hrs, 26 RBI)
                                                                    -Have Jordan Kreke (.435, 9hrs, 40RBI)
                                                                    -Hitting .380 as a team with 58 HRS
April 18th: University of Dallas(17-8-1)
                 University of Dallas(17-8-1)
April 19th: University of Dallas(17-8-1)        - Have Zach Atkins (.447, 10hrs, 46 RBI)
                 University of Dallas(17-8-1)

Beavers better play some tough ball or they could come out with 5 huge losses this weekend. Hopefully their pitching comes out in full force and scott ward gets his head on straight. otherwise... yeah, a longgggg weekend is ahead


ALSO only two games were played yesterday... Westminster vs. Principia.

Scores: Prin 10- Westmin 3
             Prin 15 Westmin 8.
Principia is playing much better than in the past and are now 6-7 in conference so they still have a chance to make it into the tournament, a very slim one, but a chance. This also drops Westminster to 2-12 in conference and 4-22 on the season. What happened to this squad that was supposed to have such a great season. It looks like Silver and Jett are doing fine, is it just the inability to get others to join in on the fun?
Baseball players get to every base.

BigPoppa

What happened to Westminster. If I recall correctly, they had some very good teams only a few years ago. I beleive they even made a run into the NCAA regionals?? Can someone correct me if I am wrong?
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

theoneandonly

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Quote from: BigPoppa on April 15, 2009, 09:43:16 AM
What happened to Westminster. If I recall correctly, they had some very good teams only a few years ago. I beleive they even made a run into the NCAA regionals?? Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

Yes, they were quite a solid team but close 10 years ago. Its weird to realize its 2009 already. They won the SLIAC title in 2000 (31-10) and 2001 (32-11). They  were also the tournament champs in 1994, 1995, and 1999. Their regional record in combined 2000 and 2001 is 3-4. They did play fairly decent ball.


ALSO, looking back on the pre-season rankings which we all know dont always mean much... here is what they looked like and what the look like now. (PLEASE MAKE NOTE THE SEASON IS NOT YET OVER)

Pre-Season:                     Current

1 Webster                       1 Webster
2 Maryville                       2 Maryville
3 Westminster                3 Fontbonne
4 Eureka                         4 Blackburn
5 Fontbonne                   5 Eureka
6 Greenville                    6 Principia
7 Blackburn                     7 MacMurray
8 Principia                       8 Greenville
9 MacMurray                   9 Westminster


Biggest + Suprises: Blackburn and Fontbonne. Although Fontbonne has only jumped up two spots, they have played very well against in region teams including a win against Wash U early in the season. Also Blackburn played right with Marietta unfortunatly losing in their lead in an eventual loss in the 8th inning, but have stepped up with their slim roster and have put themselves in a good position to make the post season, nothing is set in stone yet, but everything is getting close.

Biggest - Suprises: Westminster. Pre season ranked 3rd in the conference it just seems like they cant put anything together. Jett and Silver have put up their usual numbers but like stated in previous posts no one else has decided to join them. They have had two games where they lost by a run, the rest werent very pretty. They have given up 10+ runs 14 times and 20+ runs 2 times. So far it has been a long season for the Blue Jays and I am sure Coach Pritchard will have some major changes in store for next season.
Baseball players get to every base.

BigToughGuy

Quote from: theoneandonly on March 24, 2009, 11:42:13 AM
well i will give it to you that Combs would have been in contention, however i dont really think schaefer is going to. Its only my opinion but I dont think Websters Back up catcher is going to out due some of the everyday catchers in the SLIAC. I just dont see that happening. Obviously we have about 25 more games to actually be able to tell anyway. haha. So what do you think about westmins slow start and Macs pretty decent start. And getting a win without Sellers?


Not to discredit theoneandonly, but the claim above has clearly been proven wrong.  Doesn't look like any catchers in the SLIAC are challenging Schaefer.  That being said, let's hear some opinions on the other All-SLIAC favorites at this point.

theoneandonly

Quote from: BigToughGuy on April 15, 2009, 11:31:43 AM
Quote from: theoneandonly on March 24, 2009, 11:42:13 AM
well i will give it to you that Combs would have been in contention, however i dont really think schaefer is going to. Its only my opinion but I dont think Websters Back up catcher is going to out due some of the everyday catchers in the SLIAC. I just dont see that happening. Obviously we have about 25 more games to actually be able to tell anyway. haha. So what do you think about westmins slow start and Macs pretty decent start. And getting a win without Sellers?


Not to discredit theoneandonly, but the claim above has clearly been proven wrong.  Doesn't look like any catchers in the SLIAC are challenging Schaefer.  That being said, let's hear some opinions on the other All-SLIAC favorites at this point.


Once again lets no get back to this. if you want to bring someone down. this is no longer the place. we only talk baseball here. you are allowed to express your opinion but in effort to make this a sliac BASEBALL board we are trying to steer people away from personal attacks. everyone makes predicitions. sometimes they are wrong. thats just how life is. perfect examples of mis predictions come every year in the "pre season polls" please refer to my last post
Baseball players get to every base.

HangEmBangEm

It looks like the only other one close is Dan horn. He doesn't quite have the offensive statistics. But he does play pretty good defense. I haven't seen another catcher that is even in the same class as schaefer or horn. But haven't seen Maryville prin or eureka. Anything coming out of there? Does not look like it statistically but anyone showing improvement? Or cause a first team upset in that spot? Who do you guys see taking new comer of the year?