BB: MIAC: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Ralph Turner, February 11, 2006, 02:54:15 PM

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therocket21

I think the Tommies will be just fine this year. I think their lineup will be much better than it showed this first weekend, they have a good combination of speed at the top of their lineup and pop in the middle. Every year they play sound defense and have a deep pitching staff, which is, in my opinion, what helps to win those Friday and Saturday games in a regional.
Scholastica's staff definitely needs to cut down on the walks. I felt that they were deeper this year as a pitching staff than years past, but maybe I was wrong. They did get two solid outings from Davis and Risse to at a few positives from their first few games.

therocket21

MIAC tourney starts today. St. Johns and Tommies to start and Bethal and St. Marys the night game. I going to predict and upset and say that Johns and Bethel will win today. Justin Thompson has quietly had himself an All-American type season for the Johnnies, he currently leads the nation in ERA. Any other predictions? Seems like it has been an entire MIAC season and we haven't done much talking about it on her.

therocket21

Does anyone know why Tyler Peterson isn't in the lineup for UST? Is he hurt or something?


Bishopleftiesdad

I hate tos see that happen. Was the whole team involved or individuals? Is this a case of zeroe tolerance? Where all are punished for the avtions of a few? I wish we had more details.

Just Bill

I have heard second hand, that the violations themselves while hazing, weren't horribly bad. The school was planning on issuing some suspensions to the violators and moving on. However, the team members decided to uniformly deny everything, even when directly confronted with the evidence that the school had collected. Since team members were lying and attempting to cover up the incidents, the school decided to escalate the penalty. Again, this was a second hand report.
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Bishopleftiesdad

So indirectly the whole team was involved. That's too bad. Will the other teams perhaps make up some of those lost games by playing each other in ooc contests, is it possible to pick up some games against other non conference shools at this late date? With the weather are teams in the area trying to pick up some games?

Just Bill

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Bishopleftiesdad

That is too bad. If they would have just been willing to take responsibility for their actions, they would still be playing.

therocket21

I have heard that St. Olaf Administration is making this into a much bigger deal than it actually was. The term hazing is used in the article, and from what I have gathered, hazing is not what occurred. A suspension of 2-4 games would have been more suitable in my opinion. But, then again, I may not be hearing all of the facts of this situation.

AO

Quote from: therocket21 on March 31, 2015, 08:57:17 AM
I have heard that St. Olaf Administration is making this into a much bigger deal than it actually was. The term hazing is used in the article, and from what I have gathered, hazing is not what occurred. A suspension of 2-4 games would have been more suitable in my opinion. But, then again, I may not be hearing all of the facts of this situation.
are you denying any of this?  "Generally speaking, the investigation revealed conduct that constitutes ridicule, harassment, and public displays of servitude under St. Olaf's hazing policy," the school said in a press release. "The incidents also involved the underage consumption of alcohol."

Just Bill

It seems clear, it wasn't the hazing as much as the lying about the hazing. The cover-up is often worse than the crime.
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Bishopleftiesdad

Rocket, Just as Bill says it was the cover up. If it was not so bad they should of gotten their day in "court" and explained themselves and taken the suspension. But since they lied and covered up they now will pay the price.

therocket21

Yes, I completely understand if it was the cover up.  With an event like this, there are going to be a lot of different versions of the story. It so happens that the version I have heard sounds more like a team  joke or tradition as opposed to a hazing incident. As for the cover up, I have heard multiple things, so I think it would be better if I didn't say anything.
Please understand, I am not trying to bash St. Olaf for taking action on this, they know the true story and and I am getting the 2nd or 3rd  version of what really went on. Especially with the severity of past hazing incidents at the college level, I am not surprised that they have taken a zero tolerance stance.

therocket21

Well with the MIAC season about halfway through, St. Thomas and Bethel have proved to be the front runners once again. Is this actually the year that St. Thomas does not win the MIAC? I have not seen Bethel play yet, but St. Thomas has definitely not lived up to the hype they received before the season. Then again, St. Thomas always seems to really turn it on towards the last two weeks of the season. It looks like it is going to be a cluster of teams all fighting for the 3rd and 4th place spots in the MIAC, which is no different than any past years.