BB: LEC: Little East Conference

[ecfaninri]

JCon8958,
Are you kidding me? Eastern got in by beating the likes of Wheaton, Redlands, Roger Williams, USM,Keene State, and of course Suffolk. They also play one of the toughest schedules in D-3 - Kean on the road, Montclair St., WNEC, Amherst, and UMB twice in the LEC tourney. Their pitching kept them in a lot of games and when it counted a 1-0 loss to KSC - the 5th ranked team offensively in D-3. Come on Suffolk had it's chance and didn't get it done. Reputation? EConn plays a tough schedule and did it with a less than 100% National Co-Player of the Year. Down the stretch winning 17 of 20 games. Come on JConn, give credit when its due.

KSCer,
I do agree, no one should concede to Trinity.The Bantams will be hard pressed to go up against the Owls, USM and Wheaton and even WNEC. You're right on that game vs Eastern.  It was probably there worst game of the year. I do think KSC will be able to hit their pitching. I'm just glad that other people get to see the LEC in the NY region as well.

[hockeyfan77]

USM gave up 36 runs after their top 3 pitchers had pitched, how can they survive in an eight team tourney?

Pitch better...Pretty simple..

[Jcon8958]

I give credit were credit is due and the fact of the matter is say eastern should nopt be there thats wat i think and if they made it in lets be serious put them in the tougher regional as usaul they get the NY regional which in my option is much easier. If you tthrow them in the New England regional no way in hell they get out.

[Paul Heering]

I'm with Jcon on ECSU getting a break by going to NY (but I disagree with Jcon about them deserving a bid--I think they should be in).

Look at the seeds
Seed--New England--New York--Matchup
#1--Cortland--Trinity--Push
#2--Ithaca--Keene State--Advantage New England
#3--RPI--Wheaton--Advantage New England
#4--Montclair State--Southern Maine--Push
#5--ECSU--WNEC--Both New England Teams--Call it a push--WNEC won head to head 3-2
#6--Farmingdale--St. Joe's--Advantage New England
#7--Ohio Wesleyan--Worcester State--Advantage New York
#8--Grove City--Castleton--Push (I guess)

So in my highly scientific analysis here (note the sarcasm) New England wins 3-1-4.

it is that easy

[ecfaninri]

JCon and Paul,
If the NY Region was so much easier, why was EConn a 5 seed? Would they be 5 seed in NE? It really doesn't matter...they are in and they will have to play a 4 seed and then a #1 in the second round. Same scenario if they were in NE.

[Jcon8958]

You just said that it was easier in new york then in ure next post you say it doesnt matter??
Fact of the matter is not only do i think eastern did not deserve to get in but they by no means should have got ot go to new york for the easier regional and it is much much easier. If the Suffolk coach was at the helm for 40 years you better believe that suffolk would be in and not eastern.

[ecfaninri]

Jcon,
Well I guess you're right 40 years does make a difference. 40 years 1200 plus wins.. not a bad program and how many titles? Suffolk will be there in the future and I guess it will be easier for  Eastern. So I guess they shouldn't worry. Of course they it will appear easier. But it will come down to pitching again at this level. And I guess 40 years of experience helps Eastern find enough pitching to get this far.

[Bostonian]

Eastern had better computer #s than Suffolk. That's why they went. Suffolk killed it's hopes by losing to St. Joe's 4 time in 10 days. Can't do that and get an at-large, especially when it happens at the end of the season.

And I know you LEC guys are loyal, but Trinity has beaten plenty of good teams this year...they beat Babson, Denison, and St. Thomas in Florida. They beat Amherst(which no LEC team was able to do this year) 4 times, swept Tufts, and Bayer made Eastern's lineup look very weak. It's not the toughest schedule in the world, but this is a team that is on par with the Serfass-Dipietro Eastern team that won it all.

[KSCfan]

I dont care what regional any team is in, regional tournys are tough.  Lets remember that most of the conferance tournys do not play the 6 or 8 team tournys that the LEC plays at the end of the year.  Eastern deserved to go by getting hot at the end of the year and ripping off a bunch of wins, espically against wheaton.  Eastern has the pitching to win that tourny.   Jagz, Fontaine, and Espo are nothing to sneeze at.  Espically after the way that Espo pitched not only in the Regionals last year against Keene (however keenes offense this year embarsses last years team) and the 1-0 loss to Keene against Morin.  He is very very good.  I was surprised that Jagz got hit like he did aginst southern in the tourny but he is good enough to bounce back.  Im not an Eastern fan, never have been, but sometimes you have to give them credit.  Easterns record with the teams they played in the LEC and non conferance was a better resume then Suffolk. 

As for the New England regional should be interesting to see if Keene and USM meet up, two teams with a lot of respect for each other, but a little bad blood in the conferance tourny.  THe Keene fans where brutal to the USM team on sat.  TO the point where the left fielder fired a ball while warming up. WHich only set the Keene fans into a bigger frenzy.  Also KH16 , Testo and the crew got into it with Big Head Ed.  Hockeyfan any chance of Henry pitching in the Regionals?  Going to need him.  I will put Morin up agianst any of the Trinity pitchers espically after what he did in the conferance tourny.  However Trintiy has 3 Morins.  But, i think that Keene will beat them if they play them.  Espo was as good as any of htem on that friday and keene found a way to beat them.  I hope Eastern loses in thier regional finals and Keene goes to the WOrld Series over Maine in the finals(won't happen, but i hope it does.). Im all LEC, Down with the NESCAC and Trinity!!!!!  T

[hockeyfan77]

I dont care what regional any team is in, regional tournys are tough.  Lets remember that most of the conferance tournys do not play the 6 or 8 team tournys that the LEC plays at the end of the year.  Eastern deserved to go by getting hot at the end of the year and ripping off a bunch of wins, espically against wheaton.  Eastern has the pitching to win that tourny.   Jagz, Fontaine, and Espo are nothing to sneeze at.  Espically after the way that Espo pitched not only in the Regionals last year against Keene (however keenes offense this year embarsses last years team) and the 1-0 loss to Keene against Morin.  He is very very good.  I was surprised that Jagz got hit like he did aginst southern in the tourny but he is good enough to bounce back.  Im not an Eastern fan, never have been, but sometimes you have to give them credit.  Easterns record with the teams they played in the LEC and non conferance was a better resume then Suffolk. 

As for the New England regional should be interesting to see if Keene and USM meet up, two teams with a lot of respect for each other, but a little bad blood in the conferance tourny.  THe Keene fans where brutal to the USM team on sat.  TO the point where the left fielder fired a ball while warming up. WHich only set the Keene fans into a bigger frenzy.  Also KH16 , Testo and the crew got into it with Big Head Ed.  Hockeyfan any chance of Henry pitching in the Regionals?  Going to need him.  I will put Morin up agianst any of the Trinity pitchers espically after what he did in the conferance tourny.  However Trintiy has 3 Morins.  But, i think that Keene will beat them if they play them.  Espo was as good as any of htem on that friday and keene found a way to beat them.  I hope Eastern loses in thier regional finals and Keene goes to the WOrld Series over Maine in the finals(won't happen, but i hope it does.). Im all LEC, Down with the NESCAC and Trinity!!!!!  T

They may have been yelling at each other sat, but I am sure they will be pulling for the rematch in the regional... funny thing is when Testo got kicked out of the game up here, he had to sit in the press box and some of the things I said he used on the air when he was the color guy for the USM/Eastern game: I need to copyright my stuff.... ...I have seen Wheaton, and St Joe's this year and I think Keen is going to come out of that group: I have never seen WNEC play but I am sure it will be tough but if then can face Trinity, with Schmidt going well, I think it it will be at the very least at tough test for the Trinity team...Herny, who knows: Burleson wasn't supposed to pitch again but he is and not pitching badly: if they can get Herny to go and throw just 1 game: USM has pretty solid pitching: Ross(who is good against anybody but Keene) Schmidt, Timmy, and Herny/Burleson...They also have some very good RP when not overworked: that's what happened to them on Sat against Keene...Hahn, deBethune, Eaton and Stacy can all get the job done...It should be fun...

[Paul Heering]

Just to clarify, I was not trying to bash Eastern Connecticut or say that they get breaks.  I was just saying that if you ask me, which nobody did, the New England Regional is tougher than the New York Regional.

[Jcon8958]

Im not bashing the fact of the matter is they do catch all the breaks they get things on there past accomplishments. Thats how i feel and im sure alot of other people feel that way as well

[363dp]

How did USM get in last year?  HOF ED's rep!

It is not always bad to have that experience and sucess behind you.

"Pitch better...Pretty simple.."

If it was that simple, don't embarrass yourself and give up 35 runs when you need a victory!

[dgilblair]

Jcon,
Well I guess you're right 40 years does make a difference. 40 years 1200 plus wins.. not a bad program and how many titles? Suffolk will be there in the future and I guess it will be easier for  Eastern. So I guess they shouldn't worry. Of course they it will appear easier. But it will come down to pitching again at this level. And I guess 40 years of experience helps Eastern find enough pitching to get this far.

ecfan, don't let jcon get to you.  He is just a ECSU hater.  Besides we beat his UMB team two times in the LECT and he is still a little salty about that.  jcon said Shawn was the most overrated player he ever saw back in 06.  I still think Nick is a really good pitcher jcon.  I mean that, I think I dreaded facing him more than any other in the LEC.  When he is on he is nasty.

[hockeyfan77]

How did USM get in last year?  HOF ED's rep!

It is not always bad to have that experience and sucess behind you.

"Pitch better...Pretty simple.."

If it was that simple, don't embarrass yourself and give up 35 runs when you need a victory!

UMM, they didn't get in last year, check facts before spouting...Well what do you suggest, they pitch worse???
What do you have against USM anyway??? Keene is one of the best hitting teams I have seen in the last 10 years, but they didn't hit well, it was bad pitching right.. ...What's your team anyway, Suffolk??? ST Joe's, Wheaton or Babson...