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hockeyfan77

Quote from: keenONkeene on February 11, 2009, 02:02:37 PM
ECU and Southern Maine are like puppy factories..........keep wheeling in the talent and see who sticks......if not enjoy Ply State. Old school method, while were at it lets pat Woody Hayes on the back, I guess we condone his actions too?


I am sorry but I just can't grace that with a reply...

wordsmith

Quote from: keenONkeene on February 11, 2009, 02:02:37 PM
ECU and Southern Maine are like puppy factories..........keep wheeling in the talent and see who sticks......if not enjoy Ply State. Old school method, while were at it lets pat Woody Hayes on the back, I guess we condone his actions too?

KonK,

Woody Rules!

I had the pleasure of knowing Wayne Woodrow Hayes. (Yes I am that old).

A great man, albeit flawed. Pushed for integration of minorities into both the playing and coaching ranks when that was NOT a popular position; loved his country to a fault, and cared deeply for his players. From Hop Cassidy to Bob Fergerson to Arch Griffin to Jack Tatum to Corny Greene I could go on about the players he helped form into men. Woody was a better man than he was a coach. (Could not give up the Damn Robust formation). Woody was a genuine guy. Program was always above board and usually a winner. Sounds a lot like the TEE and USM guys.

So, if you are refering to a 64 year old man giving a forearm shiver to a 21 year-old kid in full pads as condoning his actions, please include all of the things I mentioned above when you say that.

By the way I would have punched Charlie Bauman too!  :D

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dchevy5

KSC's improvement over the last 3 years has made this a three team league for sure.  I put KSC right there with USM and Eastern and don't agree that those programs are currently a little bit ahead of Keene. 

That being said, how can you say that USM and Eastern are overrated?  They have been doing it for a lot longer than KSC and have the World Series appearances (and National Championships) to show for it.  Keene has a lot of work to do over a long period of time to acquire the pedigree that those two programs have. 

I LOVE it when KSC plays USM or Eastern, and I am pretty sure that their fans have a lot of respect for KSC, and that they mark their calendars for those games, also.

I hope someday (and starting this year) that KSC can get to their first World Series, and then keep going back. 


ecfaninri

Mansoo7....
You're right on target with your assesment of KonK.. He could not have spent anytime in Maine or EConn to feel the way he does on either program. However, if he was snubbed by either program, that might be another story. I don't know about USM  but when my son was thinking of going to EConn, I spoke with a parent of a player who transferred to EConn and later started for them and told me if a player is the type of player who needs to be coddled on the field and/or in the classroom - EConn was not the place to go. Holiwaty does care for his players but may not fall all over them. You do the work, you get to play. You perform in the classroom - he'll make note of it. because after all - what these players going to do when they are done playing - work. I'm glad Coach H told my son on the first time he met him, "I don't know if you're good enough to play here". He didn't sugar coat it at all. As a parent, all I wanted from a school was for my son to get a good education, possibly make the baseball team, and in both instances learn how to prepare for the future... If baseball gets him through college and lands him a job down the road. I'll be a happy dad.
KonK... I just hope your first posts can be attributed to either pre-game jitters or early season rust. You really don't want to be a favorite target ... it is a long season.


hockeyfan77

This season will be my 13th involved with USM...To say that the coaches don't care is just flat out wrong and to tell you the truth kind of ticks me off...I guess I can handle it cause I am "Old School".... ::)

ECSUalum

Quote from: ecfaninri on February 11, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Mansoo7....
You're right on target with your assesment of KonK.. He could not have spent anytime in Maine or EConn to feel the way he does on either program. However, if he was snubbed by either program, that might be another story. I don't know about USM  but when my son was thinking of going to EConn, I spoke with a parent of a player who transferred to EConn and later started for them and told me if a player is the type of player who needs to be coddled on the field and/or in the classroom - EConn was not the place to go. Holiwaty does care for his players but may not fall all over them. You do the work, you get to play. You perform in the classroom - he'll make note of it. because after all - what these players going to do when they are done playing - work. I'm glad Coach H told my son on the first time he met him, "I don't know if you're good enough to play here". He didn't sugar coat it at all. As a parent, all I wanted from a school was for my son to get a good education, possibly make the baseball team, and in both instances learn how to prepare for the future... If baseball gets him through college and lands him a job down the road. I'll be a happy dad.
KonK... I just hope your first posts can be attributed to either pre-game jitters or early season rust. You really don't want to be a favorite target ... it is a long season.



KOK,

Welcome to the wacky and wild LEC tread.

You must be looking to stimulate the TEE and Sullen Maine fans, and seem to be doing a pretty good job, however, As you can see you are playing with a bunch of real knowledgable guys here that love thier teams, but at the same time most will root for the LEC team any time they reach the playoffs,( assuming thier favorite is not a participant).

Keene State fans I think KoK has jinksed the Owls this year.  Keene is for sure an up and coming baseball program, but my view has always been, results are what counts, and Keene does not yet have the results to compare to ECSU/USM ;)

As Ecfaninri said above, its a long season coming up and be prepared to substantiate your comments, as these guys will attack like flies on you know what


KSCfan

I think that most Keene fans will agree that KSC does not have the same mystique on the national level as USM and ECSU.  Until they go to wisconsin i dont think that can be debated.  That being said the ole Keene over the last three years has established itself as a top team in the Little East.  I strongly feel that Keene will end up in Wisconsin sooner than latter.

keenONkeene

I appreciate the passion and knowledge in this board--I would like to keep my playing/fan status on the d.l, but guess you can see where my loyalty lies.  In saying that ECU and USM are crooked and their coaches are uncaring/old school is an untruth, and if that is how my post came across I apologize.
My point is/was that today's players are not the same as the players in the Woody Hayes era........they need/want/expect a kinder gentler coach. What I am saying is is that KSU coaches are that kind of coach....plugged in to the kids of today's needs, wants and expectations.
If a coach, no matter what type of person, hit a player (pads or none) he/she would be crucified by players, parents and media and surely would never hold another job as a leader of kids/men.
Hockey fan........I think you are on the wrong board.....this is baseball (ball is round and white not flat and black).......please provide some insight as to where you get your info.......everything from you is reactionary and defensive.

KSCfan

Gilblair or any other eastern guy you seem to have a strong idea of what is going on in Eastern Camp.  Any ideas if the season where to start today who would be playing where as far as the team goes.  Is Melvin in the OF, is Bass still at second or did he move over to SS?  Hobbes at first of DH.  I know that we are still a ways off from the first games but i was just wondering what you heard.  I know that Keene nothing is really that def other than obvious, Perkins in CF, Darrak at 1b, Cip behind the plate.  I know that thier was talk about Chev moving over to SS but i dont know if that is def.  Hockeyfan is Burleson pitching this year, i know he moved to SS last year after playing OF before. I guess im looking for some updates on practices if anyone knows.

ECSUalum

Here is a good article about Steve Commuso ECSU Freshman C/OF.

Looks to have been watched by MLB

www.thelandmark.com/news/2008/0619/sports_recreation/058.html

ECSUalum

Quote from: KSCfan on February 12, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
Gilblair or any other eastern guy you seem to have a strong idea of what is going on in Eastern Camp.  Any ideas if the season where to start today who would be playing where as far as the team goes.  Is Melvin in the OF, is Bass still at second or did he move over to SS?  Hobbes at first of DH.  I know that we are still a ways off from the first games but i was just wondering what you heard.  I know that Keene nothing is really that def other than obvious, Perkins in CF, Darrak at 1b, Cip behind the plate.  I know that thier was talk about Chev moving over to SS but i dont know if that is def.  Hockeyfan is Burleson pitching this year, i know he moved to SS last year after playing OF before. I guess im looking for some updates on practices if anyone knows.

KSCfan,

Jan 2, 2009 post on this thread by DGilblair was latest thinking from someone close to the team

wordsmith

Quote from: keenONkeene on February 12, 2009, 09:46:23 AM
I appreciate the passion and knowledge in this board--I would like to keep my playing/fan status on the d.l, but guess you can see where my loyalty lies.  In saying that ECU and USM are crooked and their coaches are uncaring/old school is an untruth, and if that is how my post came across I apologize.
My point is/was that today's players are not the same as the players in the Woody Hayes era........they need/want/expect a kinder gentler coach. What I am saying is is that KSU coaches are that kind of coach....plugged in to the kids of today's needs, wants and expectations.
If a coach, no matter what type of person, hit a player (pads or none) he/she would be crucified by players, parents and media and surely would never hold another job as a leader of kids/men.
Hockey fan........I think you are on the wrong board.....this is baseball (ball is round and white not flat and black).......please provide some insight as to where you get your info.......everything from you is reactionary and defensive.


Me thinks KonK maybe a non-KSC person, perhaps a playa from another school set upon on this fair site to cause a dust-up between schools as he refers to Keene State College as KSU.

I know players from the various schools read this board, with some coaches having banned them from posting to avoid problems.

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KSCfan

Keene State College Baseball Roster posted on the website http://keeneowls.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/roster OWls seem to have a lot of pitching in what is a bigger roster than usual.

keenONkeene

wordsmith, I can assure you that I am nothing more than what I say I am--a fan of KSC who cares deeply about the program--had a son on the team and am thankful for what they did for him, seems like I am one of many who support their teams and are passionate about the players and coaches, for that I am guilty........if my opinions disturb the harmony here I apologize........but they are my opinions, not meant to harm, just WORDS--wordsmith with a name like that I would assume that you more than anyone would appreciate that.

ECSUalum

KSCfan,

Looks like Keene has really reloaded on thier pitching this year.  Hopefully they have found some aces for the future which will lead them to thier first National Championship :)

You know share the wealth in the Little East

They seem to attract a lot of CT kids!!  They got away from Coach Holawaty


Any of these pitchers/others you think may start this year?