BB: LEC: Little East Conference

[KSCfan]

I think and i could be wrong please some on correct me

TieBreaker 1 Head to head
TieBreaker 2 Record against highest seed and works way down so.......

If Keene and Boston are ties at 2nd and they split, it goes how they did against first place team, after to the next team, and all the way down.  I dont know what the tiebreaker is after that.


This could be way off we go through this every year and i never really remember.  Its something close to this.  Ralph?? Hobbesy?? Men in the know what is the tie breaker

[Ralph Turner]

I don't see the tie-breaker on the conference homepage.  The ASC has the tie-breaker tabbed on the home page.

I hope your commissioner will put it there.

On the home page on the tab,
"About the Little East";
at the bottom of that tab, below "Sportsmanship Statement",
"Tie-breakers"

[KSCfan]

Thanks Ralph that is why you are the best!!!!

[wordsmith]

13 16 18 25 zippo what do these numbers represent?

The national rankings of ECorn, Wheaton, Tufts, and WNEC and yes no Keene State! Not even 1 point? Really?

A-T-T-T-I-C-A..... A-T-T-I-C-A....A-T-T-I-C-A

W-O-R-D-I-C-A..... W-O-R-D-I-C-A

[KSCfan]

Bizzare because keene has knocked off WNEC twice, and according to the NCAA are the number 4 team in new england.  Its a joke, but thats alright i dont care about the top 25 as long as they make it to the regionals and do thier talking there

[Wally]

Who does the voting for the National Rankings? Obviously not the same (coaches?) folks who vote for The Regional Rankings. For goodness sakes, Amherst got 11 votes and Keene beat them at there place! Whatever, I guess The Owls will have to sweep EConn on friday and win the tourney to get some recognition. Go Owls! If I remember correctly last year a team out of the Boston area wasn't given much respect either and they went to the World Series!

[wildthngvaughn]

What hurts Keene St. is that they get great wins against WNEC (2), Amherst, NCAA bound Husson and St. Joseph's but then they go and lose to last place Plymouth St. (12-22), last place Rhode Island (15-17), UMASS-Boston (17-18), and UMASS-Dartmouth (13-19).  Losing to sub-500 teams really kills you in the rankings. 

[wordsmith]

What hurts Keene St. is that they get great wins against WNEC (2), Amherst, NCAA bound Husson and St. Joseph's but then they go and lose to last place Plymouth St. (12-22), last place Rhode Island (15-17), UMASS-Boston (17-18), and UMASS-Dartmouth (13-19).  Losing to sub-500 teams really kills you in the rankings. 

Excellent points all around. My problem is this....not even 1 point?

I mean UMB is a quality squad that is playing well and could take the LEC Tourney again; reminder half of their losses came in the first 14 games of the season!
Losses to Plywood, RIC, and UMD - each of those teams have had their moments in the sun this year, but I do agree these losses hurt KSC in the national ranking, but every team has a few of those each year, and when do the National Pollsters reward KSC for those Quality wins you mentioned?

Just wondering.

Word

[hockeyfan77]

Final  Bowdoin.  12     USM.   15

[hockeyfan77]

Southern Maine Out Slugs Bowdoin 15-12 to improve to 19-15 (5-7 in the LEC):




Next up for USM:


Wed.    4    at    Bates                                                    4:00

[HBPme]

while sitting back and thoroughly enjoying the board year in and year out, there have been a few things that I have come to realize. This board is KEENE heavy. I truly love how passionate you guys are about your team, and I am the same way, but like you all said, losing to sub .500 teams is always going to kill you, regardless of your other wins. I have the utmost respect for the Keene program. Coaching staff is great and always have great players, but at the end of the days are you guys ever going to focus on any other programs? There is not a doubt in my mind that year in and year out there is a very good chance that keene could win the regional, but they play in the most competitive conference in the region, and the odds are going to be stacked against them more often thatn not. At the end of the day, all I am saying is that I truly respect your opinions and devotion to your team, but there are other teams out there that you can be talking about.

[gap to gap]

Well put HBP.  Not a shot at KSC but I agree.  And I must say that I think we all know a bad loss jumps out more than a quality win when you are an elite program like Keene, Eastern, Wheaton, Tufts, WNEC and so on.  The higher up you are the more you need to take care of business against the little guys and thats something this year that Keene is struggling with.  I know they are league games and we all know anything can happen in a DH or just playing someone you see several times year in and year out when there is the most on the line.

[KSCfan]

Couple of thoughts on previous comments......

1.  The only reason this board is keene heavy right now is because the eastern fans have not been posting(effaninri, ECSUalum, Gilblair etc), Jconn has not been posting, Swazey or whatever (The RIC guy) is not posting, we dont have a dartmouth guy or plymouth guy,....

Express does a good job for western, that leaves KSCfan, KSCer, Wordsmith, Wally, and LECfan, all with keene state connections in one shape or form.  My response to HBP is if some of the other people would post about thier teams we would have something else to talk about!!!!!  Also what would  you like to talk about HBP??  Give us a good topic to talk about that involves the little east and we will be more than happy to talk about that.

2.  As far as the wins talk, you have to remember that those loses to UMD, UMB, Plymouth, and RIC are conference games.  You are going to see everyones best pitcher on conference days.  Look at Western CT (no disrespect Express) but they are a totally different team with Armstrong on the mound than when he is not pitching.  Western has a real chance to take every first game they play with him on the mound.  Same with UMBust, with Dalton.  Keene is seeing those teams best guy on sat, Dalton is not pitching mid-week against someone like Fitchburg state.  The LEC is the one of if not the best conference in D3 and everybody has at least one stud pitcher to go on sat.  Ask any coach in the LEC winning a DH (2 9inning games, yes the LEC plays two nines not like some of the other confernces) is one the hardest things to do. Its the bad mid-week losses that stick out more in my mind.  Keene has done a good job of avoiding those this year. 

[wordsmith]

while sitting back and thoroughly enjoying the board year in and year out, there have been a few things that I have come to realize. This board is KEENE heavy. I truly love how passionate you guys are about your team, and I am the same way, but like you all said, losing to sub .500 teams is always going to kill you, regardless of your other wins. I have the utmost respect for the Keene program. Coaching staff is great and always have great players, but at the end of the days are you guys ever going to focus on any other programs? There is not a doubt in my mind that year in and year out there is a very good chance that keene could win the regional, but they play in the most competitive conference in the region, and the odds are going to be stacked against them more often thatn not. At the end of the day, all I am saying is that I truly respect your opinions and devotion to your team, but there are other teams out there that you can be talking about.

Thanks for the posts guys. Glad to have others join in the conversation. With all due respect I am on this board mainly because of KSC. I don't really care about other teams, sorry to be politically incorrect, although I do comment on other teams like ECorn, UMB & esp. So. Maine.
So if you want to do an "SEC thing" and root for the entire conference and talk about the whole shebang go right ahead, but you'll have to get in line behind Hobsey.
Again thank you for your opinions and posts.

Go Keene State beat ECorn
Word

[7express]

Western splits with Albertus Monday.  Western won the first game 7-4, lost the second game 5-4.  Once again, defense let us down in game 2 as we made 4 errors which accounted for 3 unearned runs for AMC. 
Yesterday, Western beat Manhattanville 11-5.  Todays game at home against FDU Florham has been postponed once again (it was first postponed back in April), and will not be made up, so our final game is Friday night with a double header at Umass-Boston.  First game should be a great pitching matchup Dalton for the Beacons vs. Armstrong for the Colonials.  Hopefully, that isn't the last game Armstrong starts in his college career.