BB: LEC: Little East Conference

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hockeyfan77

Quote from: kscer on May 12, 2012, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 12, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 12, 2012, 08:39:43 AM


My question is why does Keene who is 2-0 have to play Plymouth today who has one loss?  Shouldnt the RIC and USM winner have to play Plymouth to then go on and play Keene the last unbeaten team?  What happens if Plymouth beats Keene and now you have three one loss teams left in the tournament?  How would that work out?  LEC tournament is high drama this year, Plymouth making a nice run, and eastern maybe playing their way out of an at large bid!!!



Good question: I was confused yesterday as well but that what the NCAA handbook says....Having 5 teams left after 2 days really changes the format of the tourney....
I explained this schedule to the little lady and she said "I smell Flaherty's fingers in this". Any AD or head coach who agreed to this schedule should have their heads examined.





If comes right out he NCAA handbook....If a coach or an AD doesn't follow the rules of the NCAA then they get fired....Do I think it's a good rule: NO... I think it's strange but it's something you can't change....

kscer

Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 12, 2012, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: kscer on May 12, 2012, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 12, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 12, 2012, 08:39:43 AM


My question is why does Keene who is 2-0 have to play Plymouth today who has one loss?  Shouldnt the RIC and USM winner have to play Plymouth to then go on and play Keene the last unbeaten team?  What happens if Plymouth beats Keene and now you have three one loss teams left in the tournament?  How would that work out?  LEC tournament is high drama this year, Plymouth making a nice run, and eastern maybe playing their way out of an at large bid!!!
I thought the NCAA determined the format for the regionals, but the conferences determined their own championship schedule. I admit I have not read the whole Manual(only the sections regarding selection and regional play). If it is NCAA policy then thay explains why it's screwed up.



Good question: I was confused yesterday as well but that what the NCAA handbook says....Having 5 teams left after 2 days really changes the format of the tourney....
I explained this schedule to the little lady and she said "I smell Flaherty's fingers in this". Any AD or head coach who agreed to this schedule should have their heads examined.





If comes right out he NCAA handbook....If a coach or an AD doesn't follow the rules of the NCAA then they get fired....Do I think it's a good rule: NO... I think it's strange but it's something you can't change....

hockeyfan77

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Final    USM.    15         RIC.      4

JustAFan

The LEC tournament format is very similar to the one used in Legion baseball for state and regional tournaments, in which every team has to play every day until eliminated.

The LEC got a break today with Amherst going 2 and out in the NESCAC tournament, while Trinity remains unbeaten heading into tomorrow's final.  Amherst was my pick to get an at-large bid had they made it to the finals but now they are a marginal bubble team, and Eastern would be a better pick if it came down to the 2 of them.  Bowdoin remains in contention in the tournament with one loss and is the only other NESCAC school to be able to make an argument for an at-large bid, but heading into the tournament their season was not as strong as Amherst's even though in my opinion they are the better team and play in the much tougher NESCAC East division.

wordsmith

The thing about the Legion format is the undefeated y
Team at the stage KSC is at automatically moved into the championship game win or lose in today's game. If they won they'd go into Sunday undefeated. Not sure if that's the way this works.but really if KSC loses today, which I don't think they will. They will end up no further ahead than USM who lost in an earlier round. IMHO
Word

JustAFan

Word, you're right that the Legion format would put the team in KSC's position today into tomorrow's finals whether or not they win this afternoon. I am assuming that this is what will happen under the LEC conference tournament rules as well and that SoMaine will play PSU in game 1 tomorrow if PSU beats KSC this afternoon, with the winner playing KSC for the title in game 2 tomorrow, but if KSC beats PSU this afternoon then SoMaine will have to beat KSC twice tomorrow to win the championship. Either way KSC is rewarded for being in the position they are right now, and they control how difficult a day they will have tomorrow (one game for all the marbles vs. someone having to beat them twice) by whether or not they win this afternoon's game vs. PSU. I kind of like that result.

hockeyfan77

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Final   PSU     9      KSC.    2

kscer

Meanwhile, PSU has beaten USM, ECSU, and KSC to find itself in the driver's seat. Great job PSU. Do you have one more game in you? Keene State and Maine have to find the pitching to win two games tomorrow. Wow!http://www.d3boards.com/Smileys/default/shocked.gif

GBear210

So... LEC experts... If PSU wins it all and USM beats KSC... looks like PSU and USM are in the driver's seats.  Yes/No?
Will Holywater accept an ECAC invite? (LOL ;D)  KSC will... if it comes to that. 

kscer

Quote from: GBear210 on May 12, 2012, 09:23:52 PM
So... LEC experts... If PSU wins it all and USM beats KSC... looks like PSU and USM are in the driver's seats.  Yes/No?
Will Holywater accept an ECAC invite? (LOL ;D)  KSC will... if it comes to that.
You have to look at the regional rankings.The NCAA looks at the whole season, not just a few games in a tournament situation. I think KSC will get a 5,or 6 seed in the NE regional regardless of what happens. If they win it all they will be seeded 3. They do have 31 wins.

GBear210

...what have you done for me lately?  A 9-2 loss to PSU and potential sheelacking from USM at their home field... is the KSCer in denial?

GBear210

... also remember KSC does not hold the Holywater chalice!!!  :o

GBear210

NEIBA Division III Poll... USM could be higher than KSC with a head-to-head win tomorrow.
...and NESCAC could have two with a pool bid.
1. Wheaton (3) 34-8 24 pts
2. St. Joseph's 36-5 20 pts
3. Trinity 29-9 15 pts
Keene State 29-11 15 pts
5. Southern Maine 23-16 11 pts
6. Amherst 23-8 10 pts
7. Western New England 33-11 6 pts
8. Eastern Connecticut 28-11 3 pts

kscer

Quote from: GBear210 on May 12, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
NEIBA Division III Poll... USM could be higher than KSC with a head-to-head win tomorrow.
...and NESCAC could have two with a pool bid.
1. Wheaton (3) 34-8 24 pts
2. St. Joseph's 36-5 20 pts
3. Trinity 29-9 15 pts
Keene State 29-11 15 pts
5. Southern Maine 23-16 11 pts
6. Amherst 23-8 10 pts
7. Western New England 33-11 6 pts
8. Eastern Connecticut 28-11 3 pts
The only poll that matters is the NCAA Regional poll from which the pool c teams will be picked. cf. 2006 selections and LEC tournament.

Boggsy789

Should be a great day in Gorham today, as long as PSU wins its first ever conference title! They would have to build McManus a statues at Panther Park.