MBB: NEWMAC

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WPI89

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Yikes that is a haunting finish for Springfield. They missed all but one of their last 20 shots (maybe not exactly) to lose at the "buzzer".

NEWMAC 1-4. Too bad.

Can't wait for next Nov.

Lowther is all  NEWMAC minimum. Maybe NEWMAC player of the year. Looking forward to a strong WPI team.

Good luck to the sweet 16 this year.

rlk

Quote from: WPI89 on March 07, 2020, 09:44:04 PM
Yikes that is a haunting finish for Springfield. They missed all but one of their last 20 shots (maybe not exactly) to lose at the "buzzer".

NEWMAC 1-4. Too bad.

Can't wait for next Nov.

Lowther is all  NEWMAC minimum. Maybe pjj ok sure of the year. Looking forward to a strong WPI team.

Good luck to the sweet 16 this year.

The women, however, are still in -- Smith won tonight to go to the Sweet 16.
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Quote from: WPI89 on March 07, 2020, 09:44:04 PM
Yikes that is a haunting finish for Springfield. They missed all but one of their last 20 shots (maybe not exactly) to lose at the "buzzer".

NEWMAC 1-4. Too bad.

Can't wait for next Nov.

Lowther is all  NEWMAC minimum. Maybe pjj ok sure of the year. Looking forward to a strong WPI team.

Good luck to the sweet 16 this year.

They led by 12 49-37 with 13:44 left, and proceeded to go 4 x 19 down the stretch, 1x10 from the arc.  :-(
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   WPI      10-4      20-8      X Stephenson      X McNamara      X Downing      10 Walker***      X Wisniewski – Sr      9 Lowther      9 Needleman      8 Wheeler   
   SPRINGFIELD      13-1      23-5      X Ross – Sr      X Post – Sr      Witter – Sr      X Lindsay      X Costa       X Cummings      Baum      Sandifer   
   BABSON      10-4      20-7      X Coolahan – Sr      X Jaworski      X Ofring*** - Sr      X Ainge      15 Bradanese      14 Kirkpatrick      Pattyson      Bean/Welch/10 Gao   
   Emerson      7-7      14-12      X O' Connor – Sr      X Houston      X Waterhouse      X Martin      Beckwith      Davis***      X McLean      Holding – Sr   
   COAST GUARD      6-8      14-14      X Witkowski – Sr      X Baldez – Sr      X Kane – Sr      X Perez      10 Drummond      16 Cox      9 Frazier – Sr      8 Graytok – Sr   
   MIT       5-9      12-13      X Hinkley      14 Cho***      12 Chatziveroglou      X Pilsbury      18 Kordonowy***      10 Masys      Manyika***      Kostolansky***   
   Clark       3-11      8-17                                                   
   Wheaton MA      2-12      7-17                                                   
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I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

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Agreed -- half the season is too little, though, really. We generally set the cutoff at two-thirds of games.
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^^  Greek Tragedy - great chart - what do the *** signify?

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Quote from: WPI89 on March 18, 2020, 08:33:41 AM
^^  Greek Tragedy - great chart - what do the *** signify?

They didn't play a full season for one reason or another.  Injury? Eligibility etc. Some guys only played 6, 10, 14 games, for example.

X - starters. If there is a num er in front of the name, that's how many games they started if they didn't basically start every game. If a guy started 22 of 27 games, he just got an X.
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Quote from: D3 Junkie on March 17, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

Yeah, what might have been.

Regarding the D3Hoops teams I'm pretty shocked that Jaworski got totally shut out.  He made the NABC 2nd team, which I thought was about right, but wasn't considered good enough for the D3Hoops 4th team?

Next year things will be interesting.  We've had 7 years with players of national prominence from within the conference (Flannery -> Ross). 

WPI returns a loaded senior class, plus Lowther, and if this 6'8" recruit (Ryan Biberon) can play they should be ranked all year.

I think MIT will make a significant jump upward with a healthy PG (Cho), greater familiarity with the rotation  playing together, and their ability to recruit outstanding student-athletes around the globe.

Babson should be in the top half of the NEWMAC.  Ideally they'll add a wing shooter and a big man/interior defender.

There are so many underclassmen within the conference who played significant minutes the future becomes more difficult to predict.  You just never know who will adjust to the college game, work on their game in the off-season, and get "coached up" to the point they look like a new star.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: D3 Junkie on March 17, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

Yeah, what might have been.

Regarding the D3Hoops teams I'm pretty shocked that Jaworski got totally shut out.  He made the NABC 2nd team, which I thought was about right, but wasn't considered good enough for the D3Hoops 4th team?

Well, our voters would say the same about Coolahan -- good enough for our team but not the NABC team?
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BaboNation

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: D3 Junkie on March 17, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

Yeah, what might have been.

Regarding the D3Hoops teams I'm pretty shocked that Jaworski got totally shut out.  He made the NABC 2nd team, which I thought was about right, but wasn't considered good enough for the D3Hoops 4th team?

Well, our voters would say the same about Coolahan -- good enough for our team but not the NABC team?

Yes, I saw that.  Taking nothing away from Coolahan, who was a major contributor to the team, Jaworski is the better all-around player.  I've watched them both their whole college careers.  I don't like to lessen one player by comparing him to another, so this is awkward.

Not to make too much of one game, but since Ryan, I believe, was in attendance at the Ithaca-Babson game, it was pretty clear that without Jaworski, Babson wouldn't have been able to hang with Ithaca as long as they did.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: D3 Junkie on March 17, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

Yeah, what might have been.

Regarding the D3Hoops teams I'm pretty shocked that Jaworski got totally shut out.  He made the NABC 2nd team, which I thought was about right, but wasn't considered good enough for the D3Hoops 4th team?

Well, our voters would say the same about Coolahan -- good enough for our team but not the NABC team?

Yes, I saw that.  Taking nothing away from Coolahan, who was a major contributor to the team, Jaworski is the better all-around player.  I've watched them both their whole college careers.  I don't like to lessen one player by comparing him to another, so this is awkward.

Not to make too much of one game, but since Ryan, I believe, was in attendance at the Ithaca-Babson game, it was pretty clear that without Jaworski, Babson wouldn't have been able to hang with Ithaca as long as they did.

There were a number of games Coolahan kept them in, too.  It seemed like a team effort most of the year.  Hard to pick one star on that team, especially once Oftring went down.  I was impressed all around with how they responded to the loss.  That game was a truly impressive performance, even in the loss.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2020, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: BaboNation on March 18, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: D3 Junkie on March 17, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I definitely understand why he couldn't make an All Region team due to injury, but Frank Oftring might have been the best big man in New England this year. In his 4 games against 4 other All-Region big men (Rogers, Post, Stephenson, Rapoza), he averaged 17 points and 8.3 boards on 65%(!) shooting. This includes 29 and 10 on 11-16 against first team big man Rogers from Tufts.

A few incredible performances that can't be overlooked regardless of how many games he played.

Yeah, what might have been.

Regarding the D3Hoops teams I'm pretty shocked that Jaworski got totally shut out.  He made the NABC 2nd team, which I thought was about right, but wasn't considered good enough for the D3Hoops 4th team?

Well, our voters would say the same about Coolahan -- good enough for our team but not the NABC team?

Yes, I saw that.  Taking nothing away from Coolahan, who was a major contributor to the team, Jaworski is the better all-around player.  I've watched them both their whole college careers.  I don't like to lessen one player by comparing him to another, so this is awkward.

Not to make too much of one game, but since Ryan, I believe, was in attendance at the Ithaca-Babson game, it was pretty clear that without Jaworski, Babson wouldn't have been able to hang with Ithaca as long as they did.

There were a number of games Coolahan kept them in, too.  It seemed like a team effort most of the year.  Hard to pick one star on that team, especially once Oftring went down.  I was impressed all around with how they responded to the loss.  That game was a truly impressive performance, even in the loss.

So true.  Be well.