MBB: NEWMAC

[Hugenerd]

I have said over and over again that that play is out of character and by no means is an indicator of what is the norm for cga.  I know he isnt a dirty player.  I just have a certain opinion about that play.  It was unecessary and uncalled for and excessive.  Take it how you will, I am dropping the subject.  Good luck to CGA and the rest of the NEWMAC teams as the conference tourney progresses.

As for the concussion comment.  I have obviously seen plays where people get undercut and get hit in the head, etc.  I just meant I have never seen a head injury so serious that a player was sent to the hospital and held for observation for an extended period of time.

[baseballguy]

Hey Pridefan- Where did you seeing me say that stuff?  I think you got me confused with Hugenerd.  Please don't, I don't see thing through jimmy b glasses. 
I am an Antoine Coleman POY guy.

[Hugenerd]

Hey Pridefan- Where did you seeing me say that stuff?  I think you got me confused with Hugenerd.  Please don't, I don't see thing through jimmy b glasses. 
I am an Antoine Coleman POY guy.

Well you do apparently see through pretend glasses.  What differentiates Antoine Coleman from any other starter in the NEWMAC, he averages 13.9 points and 6.1 rebounds a game.  If you want to give the award to a player on the top team in the conference, I think Craig Johnson has a much better resume: 15 ppg, 8.8 rpg, and 57% from the floor.  Everyone obviously, by now, knows my opinion of the actual best player in the conference, so I wont list his stats here (hint, he was just named a Jostens finalist and a first team all-american).

[baseballguy]

AC is TOUGH.  He is the toughest player in the NEWMAC by far. No one else brings it to the table like AC every night.  He is the reason WPI has been so successful for the past few seasons.  Don't give me all of Jimmy B's stats.  How many big game has Jimmy B played in?  AC brings it every night.

[T990]

for pridefan: not your team. 

[Hugenerd]

AC is TOUGH.  He is the toughest player in the NEWMAC by far. No one else brings it to the table like AC every night.  He is the reason WPI has been so successful for the past few seasons.  Don't give me all of Jimmy B's stats.  How many big game has Jimmy B played in?  AC brings it every night.

AC has alot of help.  He may be a tough player, but he isnt the best player in the league. Last time I checked, player of the year is an individual award.

[baseballguy]

AC vs JB - one on one to see who wins POY.  I know who my money would be on.

[jamiejohn]

I dont think it is even close, JB is a way better player. he does it all. look at the numbers

[Hugenerd]

AC vs JB - one on one to see who wins POY.  I know who my money would be on.

There are at least 5 players I would take over Coleman for POY (and even more I would take over him 1 on 1). 

To be completely honest, Coleman has alot of trouble setting up his own shot.  He has a very average left hand and when he tries to drive that way, he tends to turn it over (thats why he doesnt do it that much).  He has a very strong game inside the paint, when he is able to take short runners and mini-hooks to finish with his right.  He is also a decent from 3 when he has a wide open shot and a strong defender, but he is not a great 1 on 1 player.  If you do not believe me, go watch him play and look for what I said.  I have seen him play over the last 3 years, his left hand is a glaring weakness.

[AboveDaRim2399]

Well you all can keep argueing about who is the player of the year but i guess we know who the team of the year is. Coast Guard heading to the tournament for the second year in a row!
I'm sure both of those guys will have a great time WATCHING Coast Guard in the NCAA tournament (Coleman will get to play in the ECAC for sure...and maybe WPI can sneak into the NCAA). WPI is a really tough team and if they are clicking they could do some damage in the tournament. Hopefully they will get a bid for the big dance. I think they deserve it.

Great players are defined on how they play in big games...In the playoffs when the intensity is high, Jimmy B struggled.

AC has 17 and 11 with 2 blks vs babson and 22 and 7 today.
Jimmy B had 12 points no rebounds and 8 tournovers vs CGA first round...

[LyonFan]

There are at least 5 players I would take over Coleman for POY (and even more I would take over him 1 on 1). 


Abovedarim - Are you being serious, or merely provocative?  Bartolatta is far and away the most complete player in the NEWMAC.  Teams do not shadow Coleman with their best defender, along with doubling him when he has the ball.  Don't get me wrong - AC is a terrific player, great competitor, should be a NEWMAC all star (second team), but he's not even the MVP of his own team; I'd give that to Kirkland.

Who are the league all stars?  My cut:

First team: Bartolatta, MIT, Kirkland, WPI, Alexander, CLK, Prebeck, CGA, G.Johnson, CGA
Second team: Etten, BAB, Sowers, CGA, Coppola, WHE, Coleman, WPI, Normandin, CLK

toughest vote: Normandin over Strawson and/or Soumare.
toughest ommission: G.Johnson

Honorable mention: K. MacDonald, BAB, Leo, WHE, Daly (heck all the starters), SPR

Comments?  When are the selections made?

[AboveDaRim2399]

AC is a terrific player, great competitor, should be a NEWMAC all star (second team), but he's not even the MVP of his own team; I'd give that to Kirkland.

You may of had me until you said Kirkland...I think if you are going to say WPI has a better player then AC it would have to be Marois. But i mean everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. I would say there are 3 or 4 other guards in the NEWMAC better than Kirkland

[Hugenerd]

AC is a terrific player, great competitor, should be a NEWMAC all star (second team), but he's not even the MVP of his own team; I'd give that to Kirkland.

You may of had me until you said Kirkland...I think if you are going to say WPI has a better player then AC it would have to be Marois. But i mean everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. I would say there are 3 or 4 other guards in the NEWMAC better than Kirkland

I agree with you about Morois, he always seems to be making the big shots for WPI.  Kirkland is a very solid guard also.  You have to have alot of good players to win as many games as they did.

As for the comments about Bartolotta, he does face alot of double teams and when he drives into the paint he gets even more attention.  You also cant really judge him by a single playoff game either.  Neither he, nor MIT, was the same team after he went out with an injury after the OT loss to WPI.  Hopefully the team will come together next year and he will be able to show what he can do in the NEWMAC and hopefully in the NCAAs.

[baseballguy]

lyonfan-you don't know what you are talking about.  I saw the NEWMAC semi's & final, you are way off base.

[AboveDaRim2399]

Congrats to WPI on making it as an at large. Hopefully they can do some damage. Tough first round with VA W. CGA also got a rough pull...getting a low seed and drawing Trinity first round with Mass-D awaiting the winner