BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Look It Up]

Concordia Chicago for Pool C bid at 30-13 with win over carthage?

How does a team manage to play 43 games prior to their conference tournament?  Isn't there a 40-game limit?

Four of CUC's games were against Hawaii Pacific. According to the NCAA rules, those do not count toward the 40-game scheduling.

[mr_b]

Concordia Chicago for Pool C bid at 30-13 with win over carthage?

How does a team manage to play 43 games prior to their conference tournament?  Isn't there a 40-game limit?

Four of CUC's games were against Hawaii Pacific. According to the NCAA rules, those do not count toward the 40-game scheduling.

Thanks for the clarification, but it still is confusing.  Hawaii Pacific is NCAA DII.  I guess I don't know why those games wouldn't be counted toward the limit.  If they don't count, then it would seem to follow that the team's record shouldn't reflect it, either.

[Look It Up]

Concordia Chicago for Pool C bid at 30-13 with win over carthage?

How does a team manage to play 43 games prior to their conference tournament?  Isn't there a 40-game limit?

Four of CUC's games were against Hawaii Pacific. According to the NCAA rules, those do not count toward the 40-game scheduling.

Thanks for the clarification, but it still is confusing.  Hawaii Pacific is NCAA DII.  I guess I don't know why those games wouldn't be counted toward the limit.  If they don't count, then it would seem to follow that the team's record shouldn't reflect it, either.

It's not because Hawaii Pacific is a DII school. It has to do with scheduling teams in Hawaii or Alaska.

[REDMENFAN]

Congrats to the Carthage players and Coaching staff on winning the conference tournament.  The school did a nice job setting up a PA system and the field looked great.  If the timetable stays on schedule, Carthage will be getting lights and a press box during the summer of 2010.  Here are the articles from the Kenosha News about the games from the CCIW tournament.  Some great quotes from Augie, my favorite is him comparing their game vs. IWU to a 16 inch softball game.

http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/cciw_champs_4924240.html
http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/red_men_to_play_for_cciw_title_4914554.html

[warrior35]

CCIW All-Conference Honors were released this morning:

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2009bballconferenceteam1.htm

[REDMENFAN]

Here's article on paper about Carthage's regional as well as their All-CCIW performers

http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/carthage_top_seed_in_ncaa3_baseball_regional_4930304.html

[irish21]

Redmen up 3-0 in the fifth after losing the opener, 4-2.

[augiefan]

Carthage is now batting in the bottom of the 7th up 6-2.

[badgerwarhawk]

Congrats to Carthage and good luck in Appleton.  You were the best team in the regional.   

Also my compliments to the staff at Augustana.  It's a really nice facility and the job they did keeping the field in playing condition was, all things considered, exceptional.   They were excellent hosts.

[RedmanFan35]

Augustana is a very nice facility. I was dissapointed that they didn't have the Lehigh picture service there and additionally I don't think the event was promoted locally very well. Attendance seemed to be limited to the individual teams and the Fans they brought.

Last year we were at the Osh Kosh Regional and it seemed to be much more an event. In retrospect, it could have been the weather also.

The Augustana staff on hand were very  Cordial. Thank You.

[REDMENFAN]

Congrats to Carthage, here's the article from the paper today

http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/red_men_regional_champs_4974639.html

[warrior35]

Absolutely no love for the CCIW in the All-American selections this year.  Can someone please explain to me how a team that makes it to the World Series and has been in the top 10 all year long only gets one player on All-American Honorable Mention?   Honorable mention to Ruffie but nothing for Jaehne-Llanas?  Not to say Ruffie shouldn't have been honored, All-American honors sometimes seem more like a crap shoot than a significant honor anymore.  Too much politics for me.

[BigPoppa]

Absolutely no love for the CCIW in the All-American selections this year.  Can someone please explain to me how a team that makes it to the World Series and has been in the top 10 all year long only gets one player on All-American Honorable Mention?   Honorable mention to Ruffie but nothing for Jaehne-Llanas?  Not to say Ruffie shouldn't have been honored, All-American honors sometimes seem more like a crap shoot than a significant honor anymore.  Too much politics for me.

Here is what I wrote yesterday on Carthage in 2009:

Looking ahead to this weekend, a few things strike me. None of these appear earth-shattering, but worth making the point nonetheless.

* Carthage's 2009 team is a much different team than they have run onto the field in the past. Carthage's teams have always been known for hitting... while this team is hitting just as well as teams in the past, their slugging percentage is down (as are HRs) over past teams. While this is clear, I think they are now a team that nips at you from 1-9 instead of waiting on a few big boppers to do the damage.

* Since they do not have the power numbers of years' past, they have elevated thier running game by setting new school records for stolen bases

* They have always had a STUD arm that was their go-to-guy and earned all the awards. This year it is much different as they have finally developed a complete staff that is not top-heavy, but solid from top to bottom.

* Finally, they are a better overall team this year. In the past the big boppers lead the way and made up for the scrappers that did not always get it done. This season, they do not have a single superstar that jumps out at you, but they are more solid from top to bottom both on the hill and at the plate.

FYI: I had a vote in this process and once you look at the numbers of the guys that were nominated, you are amazed. Sometimes you are even more amazed at who is left out considering the seasons they had, but it is a tough process and I can assure you that politics does not play a part in the D3Baseball.com teams at all. If it did, I would turn in Carthage's starting line-up as my vote... the reality is much different.

[warrior35]

I understand.  I thought to myself earlier that this seems to be the most cohesive team I've seen from Carthage, and sometimes those teams that don't have the most spectacular statistical leaders are the teams that just get it done when it needs to be done.  That's what I see out of Carthage this year, and I'll be cheering for them.  Go Carthage, do the CCIW proud.  But I still think that some other players from the CCIW deserved All-American honors.

[BigPoppa]

I understand.  ...  But I still think that some other players from the CCIW deserved All-American honors.

So did I, but I voted for a few CCIW guys and they did not get enough votes from the national panel to earn it. This process does a great job of having voters from all over the nation be a part of it so it truly gets past the "regional biases" that often play into the awards. I cannot argue with a single player that made it as they all deserved to be a part of that team.