BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[droppinbombs47]

my post got tied up in my quote...heres my piece..

Greg,

I have not been on here lately but thanks for the defense. Its good to see that some on here have a reading comprehension level greater than 6th graders.  I guess it was a pretty complex sentence for North Central alum/current students.

Since some of us on here are not at a 6th grade school level I need help with just a little bit of math that I'm struggling with.  What is 1+1 ... Because the answer to that is North Central's magic number to clinch the CCIW conference championship ... I'm trying to figure it out but without a 6th grade education I just can't quite figure it out 

[norfrank]

Arrogance comes before the fall.

[droppinbombs47]

Arrogance comes before the fall.

"I am who I am and your approval isn't needed"  ~ Me

[mr_b]

The CCIW website is showing NCC and NPU as clinching tourney spots - they have missed that IWU has also clinched (being 3-up on Wheaton w/ 3 to go, and having the tie-break).  I'm not sure on Carthage (though, realistically, it is a done deal).  I can't find a third game between Carthage and Wheaton, and they are 1-1 on the one's I found - anyone know the tie-break status (or might they play a sudden-death game)?

Wheaton defeated Carthage 11-1 (April 7), then split a twin bill on April 14 (Carthage 11-1, then Wheaton 14-5).

http://athletics.carthage.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Wheaton still holds out hope of a tie with Carthage at 11-10 (and the Thunder hold the tiebreaker), but they would have to sweep Elmhurst and hope that Carthage drops its next four contests (one vs Millkin and three vs North Park).

[Mr. Ypsi]

The CCIW website is showing NCC and NPU as clinching tourney spots - they have missed that IWU has also clinched (being 3-up on Wheaton w/ 3 to go, and having the tie-break).  I'm not sure on Carthage (though, realistically, it is a done deal).  I can't find a third game between Carthage and Wheaton, and they are 1-1 on the one's I found - anyone know the tie-break status (or might they play a sudden-death game)?

Wheaton defeated Carthage 11-1 (April 7), then split a twin bill on April 14 (Carthage 11-1, then Wheaton 14-5).

http://athletics.carthage.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Wheaton still holds out hope of a tie with Carthage at 11-10 (and the Thunder hold the tiebreaker), but they would have to sweep Elmhurst and hope that Carthage drops its next four contests (one vs Millkin and three vs North Park).

Thanks.  My elderly eyes somehow skipped over the Wheaton win on the 14th.

Realistically, the tourney is NCC, NPU, IWU, and Carthage (in whatever seeding order), but technically, Carthage has not yet clinched.

[norfrank]

Arrogance comes before the fall.

"I am who I am and your approval isn't needed"  ~ Me

Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame.

[mr_b]

Arrogance comes before the fall.

"I am who I am and your approval isn't needed"  ~ Me

Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame.

That's mighty optimistic, and quite charitable of you.

[BigPoppa]

Millikin? Millikin!!!!! Carthage loses to Millikin. Unreal. In 24 years of baseball under Augie Schmidt I am not certain there has been a more devastating loss... Millikin??!!

[mr_b]

Millikin? Millikin!!!!! Carthage loses to Millikin. Unreal. In 24 years of baseball under Augie Schmidt I am not certain there has been a more devastating loss... Millikin??!!

I had to look it up -- the last time Millikin defeated Carthage was in 2003, 16-9 in Kenosha.

What makes this loss even more surreal (or at least improbable) is that the key play was a ninth-inning, two-on, two-out catcher's interference that set the stage for a walk-off grand slam.  

However, the loss might not be all that surprising if you look at recent scores between the two teams: quite a few close games (and, others not-so-close) -- last year, 4-3; 2008, 1-0, 5-3, 4-3; 2007, 6-2.

[Gregory Sager]

my post got tied up in my quote...heres my piece..

Greg,

I have not been on here lately but thanks for the defense. Its good to see that some on here have a reading comprehension level greater than 6th graders.  I guess it was a pretty complex sentence for North Central alum/current students.

Since some of us on here are not at a 6th grade school level I need help with just a little bit of math that I'm struggling with.  What is 1+1 ... Because the answer to that is North Central's magic number to clinch the CCIW conference championship ... I'm trying to figure it out but without a 6th grade education I just can't quite figure it out 

I hate to chide you on your not-yet-sixth-grade math , but your calculation regarding NCC's magic number is incorrect. The magic number for the Cardinals isn't two, it's one. Either a North Park loss to Carthage next weekend or a North Central win over Illinois Wesleyan will give NCC the 2010 CCIW crown. That's because NCC holds a one-game lead over NPU, plus NCC owns the tiebreaker over NPU --  so the Vikings in effect have two games to make up in the standings in order to win the title, which means that they have to sweep the Red Men while the Cardinals get swept by the Titans.

[jigsaw54]

I hate to chide you on your not-yet-sixth-grade math , but your calculation regarding NCC's magic number is incorrect. The magic number for the Cardinals isn't two, it's one. Either a North Park loss to Carthage next weekend or a North Central win over Illinois Wesleyan will give NCC the 2010 CCIW crown. That's because NCC holds a one-game lead over NPU, plus NCC owns the tiebreaker over NPU --  so the Vikings in effect have two games to make up in the standings in order to win the title, which means that they have to sweep the Red Men while the Cardinals get swept by the Titans.

That would be correct Gregory. However, this is based on the assumption that North Central completes the sweep over Augustana today.

http://www.communitychurchsoftball.org/MagicNumberCalculator.htm

This was a tool I used a week ago. Granted it does not take into account the tie breaker scenarios but you simply alter it by one game accordingly. Let's assume this scenario as an example for the magic number:

North Central loses and falls to 14-4 on the year.
This would put both teams through the same amount of games as North Park would be at 13-5.
For illustration purposes, let's say North Central does in fact win one as you said to clinch. This would put NCC at 15-6 on the year. But in this case North Park can STILL get the one seed by sweeping Carthage! This would put them at 16-5. If NCC loses today the magic number remains at two. However, if they win it drops to one.

[droppinbombs47]

 Wow Jigsaw ... not bad for a 6th grade education

[BigPoppa]

Carthage defeated Millikin 12-6 today. The Redmen take 2 of 3 on the weekend, but that one loss could be the one that keeps them out of a Pool C... not that I think they had much of a chance at one anyway.

[HITandRUN463]

Just saw North Central took game 3 from Augustana for the sweep. 

4-3 with a walk off hit in the bottom of the 9th.

This game was a very low scoring affair (something North Central is rarely related with)
Does anyone have insight on what the cause of this was?  Weather? Umpires? Pitching duel?

On a different note,  North Central needs to win one more conference game (vs. IWU) or have North Park lose one game on Friday (against Carthage) to win the CCIW

[BlueJay Boy]

BigPoppa

I am new to the board how are pool C bids awarded?