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CCIWFAN6

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
I'd be surprised if IWU was swept by NCC this weekend. I am not sur ethat NCC would sit players either as they are fighting for a Pool C if they stumble in CCIW tourney play next week.

BigPoppa, you would know better than I, but NCC has put together a pretty good resume for a Pool C bid, even if they win just 1 game this weekend and go 2 and out in the CCIW tourney.  In that situation, they would be 30-10 and a CCIW regular season championship. Included in their 30 wins, sweeps of Wheaton (22-15) and Augustana (22-15), 2/3 against Carthage (25-12) and North Park (25-12), 2 wins over Franklin College (23-12), and another win over Luther (23-14).

At 29-6, it would not surprise me to see NCC take over the #1 spot in the regional rankings when they are released today. 

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2010, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 05, 2010, 09:23:55 PM
Carthage sweeps Lakeland today 20-1 and 23-0. Hopefully some of those bats show up this weekend. I am most impressed with the Carthage pitching which has struggled as of late.

YIKES!  43-1! :o

Since Carthage seems to be less than their usual powerhouse self this year, how BAD is Lakeland?!

Lakeland is now 21-17, and the 12-8 conference record of the Muskies is good for sixth place in the twelve-team NAthCon. All in all, it's not the kind of record you'd expect of a team that got swept by a cumulative 43-1 score.

Here's hoping that Carthage has peaked for the week. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

BigPoppa

My guess is that Lakeland has solid #1-2 pitchers that they use on the weekends and Carthage faced their #4 and #5 guys (who would probably not make the Carthage roster) and lit them up a bit. Still, for Lakeland to get shutdown that bad in a DH shows that Carthage may be back on track:)
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: CCIWFAN6 on May 06, 2010, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
I'd be surprised if IWU was swept by NCC this weekend. I am not sur ethat NCC would sit players either as they are fighting for a Pool C if they stumble in CCIW tourney play next week.

BigPoppa, you would know better than I, but NCC has put together a pretty good resume for a Pool C bid, even if they win just 1 game this weekend and go 2 and out in the CCIW tourney.  In that situation, they would be 30-10 and a CCIW regular season championship. Included in their 30 wins, sweeps of Wheaton (22-15) and Augustana (22-15), 2/3 against Carthage (25-12) and North Park (25-12), 2 wins over Franklin College (23-12), and another win over Luther (23-14).

At 29-6, it would not surprise me to see NCC take over the #1 spot in the regional rankings when they are released today. 

Without seeing a comprehensive breakdown of Pool C criteria rankings (the basketball boards have numbers-crunchers who do a great job of this, but there doesn't seem to be any baseball guys who are doing something similar over on the Pool C board), it's hard to know just where North Central stands at the moment in terms of the national Pool C outlook. But I tend to think that Big Poppa is right; this is a weak region, and nobody in it has any guarantees as far as Pool C berths are concerned. I would expect NCC's coach to keep playing his starters even if his Cards win Game One against IWU and thereby clinch the CCIW title, because losses could hurt NCC's Pool C case.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

OshDude

Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 06, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: CCIWFAN6 on May 06, 2010, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
I'd be surprised if IWU was swept by NCC this weekend. I am not sur ethat NCC would sit players either as they are fighting for a Pool C if they stumble in CCIW tourney play next week.

BigPoppa, you would know better than I, but NCC has put together a pretty good resume for a Pool C bid, even if they win just 1 game this weekend and go 2 and out in the CCIW tourney.  In that situation, they would be 30-10 and a CCIW regular season championship. Included in their 30 wins, sweeps of Wheaton (22-15) and Augustana (22-15), 2/3 against Carthage (25-12) and North Park (25-12), 2 wins over Franklin College (23-12), and another win over Luther (23-14).

At 29-6, it would not surprise me to see NCC take over the #1 spot in the regional rankings when they are released today.  

Without seeing a comprehensive breakdown of Pool C criteria rankings (the basketball boards have numbers-crunchers who do a great job of this, but there doesn't seem to be any baseball guys who are doing something similar over on the Pool C board), it's hard to know just where North Central stands at the moment in terms of the national Pool C outlook. But I tend to think that Big Poppa is right; this is a weak region, and nobody in it has any guarantees as far as Pool C berths are concerned. I would expect NCC's coach to keep playing his starters even if his Cards win Game One against IWU and thereby clinch the CCIW title, because losses could hurt NCC's Pool C case.
No need to crunch numbers on the boards. It's all accessible from the front page of D3baseball.com. Regional rankings, in-region records, OWP, OOWP, SOS ... it's all a few mouse clicks away.

Viking Blue

Do any Carthage posters have any info on Trace Ruffie?  I had the pleasure of coaching him at Hersey, and was very bummed to hear that he was probably out for the year after Tommy John surgery.

However, after looking at Carthage's stats, I see that he has a couple of appearances and saves.  Is he back?  And if so, how does his velocity look?  (A lot of guys tend to come back throwing even harder after Tommy John).

BigPoppa

Quote from: Viking Blue on May 07, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
Do any Carthage posters have any info on Trace Ruffie?  I had the pleasure of coaching him at Hersey, and was very bummed to hear that he was probably out for the year after Tommy John surgery.

However, after looking at Carthage's stats, I see that he has a couple of appearances and saves.  Is he back?  And if so, how does his velocity look?  (A lot of guys tend to come back throwing even harder after Tommy John).

I saw him throw a bit earlier in the year and he is not exactly what he used to be. He is not as hard of a thrower he once was, but that may have changed over that last month. Still, having him back on the mound has been a huge plus for Carthage.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

BigPoppa

Looking around this morning, I found that Carthage has won 21 straight games against North Park. I'd expect that streak to come to an end this weekend (but I would love to be wrong on this one).

Luke Johnson has done a great job since taking over at NPU and brought back some good baseball to the NPU campus after taking command of a 1-39 team prior to his arrival.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Gregory Sager

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Quote from: OshDude on May 07, 2010, 02:03:42 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 06, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: CCIWFAN6 on May 06, 2010, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
I'd be surprised if IWU was swept by NCC this weekend. I am not sur ethat NCC would sit players either as they are fighting for a Pool C if they stumble in CCIW tourney play next week.

BigPoppa, you would know better than I, but NCC has put together a pretty good resume for a Pool C bid, even if they win just 1 game this weekend and go 2 and out in the CCIW tourney.  In that situation, they would be 30-10 and a CCIW regular season championship. Included in their 30 wins, sweeps of Wheaton (22-15) and Augustana (22-15), 2/3 against Carthage (25-12) and North Park (25-12), 2 wins over Franklin College (23-12), and another win over Luther (23-14).

At 29-6, it would not surprise me to see NCC take over the #1 spot in the regional rankings when they are released today.  

Without seeing a comprehensive breakdown of Pool C criteria rankings (the basketball boards have numbers-crunchers who do a great job of this, but there doesn't seem to be any baseball guys who are doing something similar over on the Pool C board), it's hard to know just where North Central stands at the moment in terms of the national Pool C outlook. But I tend to think that Big Poppa is right; this is a weak region, and nobody in it has any guarantees as far as Pool C berths are concerned. I would expect NCC's coach to keep playing his starters even if his Cards win Game One against IWU and thereby clinch the CCIW title, because losses could hurt NCC's Pool C case.
No need to crunch numbers on the boards. It's all accessible from the front page of D3baseball.com. Regional rankings, in-region records, OWP, OOWP, SOS ... it's all a few mouse clicks away.

Yes, I know. But what I'm talking about is the sort of comprehensive analysis that blends the various criteria (in-region records, SOS, etc.) together, which the late Patrick Abegg and now KnightSlappy have done for men's basketball.

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 07, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
Looking around this morning, I found that Carthage has won 21 straight games against North Park. I'd expect that streak to come to an end this weekend (but I would love to be wrong on this one).

Luke Johnson has done a great job since taking over at NPU and brought back some good baseball to the NPU campus after taking command of a 1-39 team prior to his arrival.

He has, indeed ... and, based upon what NPU has coming back, my guess is that the Vikings will be pretty formidable next year as well.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Congratulations to the following CCIW players who have been named to the Academic All-District team for College Division (D2, D3, NAIA) District Five:

First team
Ryan Javech, C, North Park (4.00, Business & Economics)
Vince Mathe, IF, Elmhurst (3.97, Finance)

Second team
Brian Kolb, IF, Wheaton (3.34, Business & Economics)

Third team
Mike Giovenco, P, North Park (3.54, Accounting)

Javech and Mathe are now on the ballot for the Academic All-American team.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

jigsaw54

Is this NPU Carthage game still on for Friday? Trying to look at live stats but there not up.  Anybody have any news.
Mess with the Best Die like the Rest.

mr_b

Quote from: jigsaw54 on May 07, 2010, 06:28:57 PM
Is this NPU Carthage game still on for Friday? Trying to look at live stats but there not up.  Anybody have any news.
Just posted on the Carthage website: North Park defeated Carthage 14-2, in a game halted after the 8th inning.  I'll have to check the archives to see the last time North Park beat Carthage by the ten-run rule.

Viking Blue

Quote from: mr_b on May 07, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: jigsaw54 on May 07, 2010, 06:28:57 PM
Is this NPU Carthage game still on for Friday? Trying to look at live stats but there not up.  Anybody have any news.
Just posted on the Carthage website: North Park defeated Carthage 14-2, in a game halted after the 8th inning.  I'll have to check the archives to see the last time North Park beat Carthage by the ten-run rule.

It may be inconsequential to some, but for those of us North Park baseball alums....YES!  Ten-running Carthage in Kenosha is saweeet.  Keep that good mojo rollin'.

Viking Blue

Might be a little too cold for Carthage to take BP with their shirts off at North Park this year, too. (Yes, they did at one time.  Classy indeed...)

mr_b

Quote from: Viking Blue on May 08, 2010, 12:08:09 AM
Quote from: mr_b on May 07, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
Just posted on the Carthage website: North Park defeated Carthage 14-2, in a game halted after the 8th inning.  I'll have to check the archives to see the last time North Park beat Carthage by the ten-run rule.

It may be inconsequential to some, but for those of us North Park baseball alums....YES!  Ten-running Carthage in Kenosha is saweeet.  Keep that good mojo rollin'.
I somehow knew you'd enjoy seeing that result!  Still a lot of work to do on Sunday...