BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

BLUEJAYFAITHFUL · March 30, 2006, 07:24:24 PM

To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago. Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College. This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu.

One would have to question the intelligence of someone who tries to hide his identity but then fails to realize that providing a readily accessable email address consisting of your own name will hardly fool even the slowest of readers.

If this was just a foolish act of a person that really tries to promote his team to the best of his ability, then this message would go unnoticed. But Jones is a horrible leader that does not care at all about his field, his equipment, his assistants, and most important his players. He constantly lies to, backstabs on, and hinders any advancement of ability by his piss poor coaching ability.

My only desire in bringing this to light is the hope that the more people know about his inabilities as a coach the greater the chance future players won't have to experience what many have already have had to endure.

augie_superfan · March 30, 2006, 09:15:52 PM

OH MAN!! Caught red-handed. Nice work BLUEJAYFAITHFUL. I did go check the profile and I see that it does match his e-mail on the Elmhurst Baseball website. This is really pretty unbelievable that a coach would come on here and post. If you have to try to defend your team on some message board, then that is just sad. Spend that extra time doing something constructive for your team. All it has now done is cast a bad mark on your program. Just go prove it on the field.

augie_superfan · March 30, 2006, 09:34:51 PM

Quote from: Dirty Dozen on March 20, 2006, 06:57:57 AM
Hey Sweetness:

I heard his starting pitching in that game (and I don't know who it was?) was continuously not getting ahead of hitters, walked some guys, and had a lot of 3 ball counts. Is that Coach Jones's fault? Nick Ferrin who has been a very reliable and steady pitcher for the Jays came in in relief of the starter and hit his first batter he faced. Was it the reserves fault those pitchers weren't ahead of hitters and Ferrin hit a batter who eventually scored?

I think you should be happy the Jays have a coach who has enough balls to play his reserves every now and then to give them a chance. In the long run, won't they be better off if the Bluejays have a strong bench? Coach Jones probably already has a good idea of what his starters can do.

Hang in there. Coach Jones is a veteran Coach, has been around the block and knows what he's doing. The Jays have a strong club and playing the reserves now when he can will only strengthen their team in the long run. So chill bro - it aint the end of the world.

Looking a little longer at what Dirty Dozen said, I really hope it wasn't Coach Jones himself and somehow someone else was able to sign up under his e-mail address...but I doubt it. I mean, look at some of the things that were said about his own pitchers. Calling them out on a message board is just crap. So, when things go well on your team, you'll take credit for it. But when things go bad, you'll say it wasn't your fault? PATHETIC. Also...way to boast about yourself...real classy. Please, for Coach Jones' sake, I hope it somehow wasn't him b/c this looks bad.

Dirty Dozen · March 31, 2006, 08:55:30 AM

Hey Bluejay Faithful:

You don't miss a trick........However, a speach was made about a month ago in practice in which I made reference to our team as the "Dirty Dozen". Have you ever seen the movie "Dirty Dozen"? It's about a bunch of guys who were underdogs and for some reason or another had something wrong with them, had a little quirk, or perhaps had something happen to them in their past that has prevented them from achieving success. They were underdogs in every sense of the word. Because of this, they were labeld "Dirty Dozen". But, they were chosen for a very special mission in which nobody thought they could succeed. A "mission impossible" if you will. The people choosing them for this mission however failed to realize that they were all very special in their own way. They weren't perfect and were far from it. But if given a proper role, they could succeed. Do you see where I'm going with this...............Our players aren't perfect. They're probably not the most talented group in the CCIW. But together, with specific roles and specific goals they can win any battle they set their mind on.

So if you think our players didn't know who "Dirty Dozen" was............you're vastly mistaken. You see...........they're all underdogs - including me. We don't have the nicest field in the league, we don't have the nicest uniforms, or the largest budgets. We have normal everyday players who love the game and just want to succeed in their own right. They and I do the best they can with what they got. If that' winning the CCIW, then who am I to stand in their way.

As far as calling players out, and I can't remember if you or someone else acused me of doing that................I provide facts. If they can't handle the heat, maybe they should't be in the kitchen. Our players know I'm going to tell them when they do well, and I going to let them know when they don't. If that's calling them out..........then I'm calling them out.

One last thing, I want my players to read D3 Hoops (Baseball)..........Many of you give away some good secrets about your prospective teams. I also want them to know I read this too.

There's a Rhyme and Reason behind everything "Bluejay Faithful"......you should know that by now.

Dirty Dozen

REDMENFAN · March 31, 2006, 09:15:55 AM

Well if Dirty Dozen is really Elmhurst's head coach, I gotta say this is the first time I've ever heard of a head coach getting involved on a message board where fans just chat and give their opinion on certain situations. I would say most coaches would tell their players don't worry about what is said on some stupid message board and surely not allow their players or themselves to write on it. I don't know what secrets you are talking about people giving away either. How is it a secret to list stats, or say who did well in a certain game, or say this guy is hurt and won't be able to play. Its not a secret, look at the boxscore and its very clear who's playing and who's not. I agree with what was stated earlier, I just hope dirty dozen isn't really Elmhurst's head baseball coach, it reflects bad on their program, and especially him if it is.

augie_superfan · March 31, 2006, 10:11:35 AM

Coach Jones...now that you seem to think it is alright to post here as a coach in the conference...maybe you will address my statement earlier. Is it still not your fault when your pitchers don't perform in a game? To me, your previous statements are just horrible. Taking the credit for winning and making good lineup changes but not when your pitchers don't perform? You are responsible for everything that happens on your team good or bad....that's what you're getting paid for atleast.

Also, your little "feel good" story is nice but it still is not a way to cover up the way you tried to act in the past. BOTTOM LINE: You, as a coach in the CCIW, were WAY out of line for posting on this message board under some alias and there is no little story you can tell to cover that up.

irish21 · March 31, 2006, 10:15:25 AM

Wow! That's pretty pathetic defending yourself while pretending to be someone else!

Thank God Augie doesn't know how to use a computer!!!!

BigPoppa · March 31, 2006, 02:42:30 PM

Quote from: irish21 on March 31, 2006, 10:15:25 AM
Wow! That's pretty pathetic defending yourself while pretending to be someone else!

Thank God Augie doesn't know how to use a computer!!!!

Great line, Irish! The funny thing is it is probably true.

emeritusprof · March 31, 2006, 05:02:22 PM

My son went through grade-junior high-and high school with Augie. It's doubtful he doesn't know how to use a computer. Kenosha schools required it.

Now, if he were my age...

BigPoppa · March 31, 2006, 08:08:42 PM

I know we all kid about Augie Schmidt, but when you really think about it, who wouldn't want to play for they guy?!! His players are more loyal to him than any other program I have ever been associated with or have even heard about.

Sure... he drives you crazy when you play for him, but the moment you leave the program you will do anything to find a way to stay connected to it... parents included. I know that my father looks forward to Carthage playing near my hometown so that he can track down Augie and just chat for a few minutes between BP and the game. I think the true testament of how good of a coach he really is has to do with parents seeing him tear their little boy down only to rebuild him as a much stronger man... physically and mentally.

He teaches life through the game. I know that I have been very successful in my post-Carthage career because of what he drilled into me while I played. You have to show up every day and play your heart out... on the field or in the office.

I know of no other program that is as much of a family as Carthage Baseball. Maybe I see the world through Redmen colored glasses, but those glasses have opened many doors for me in my life. After reading all of the choas that is going on with the Elmhurst fiasco, I am sure proud that I played at Carthage.

mr_b · March 31, 2006, 08:35:11 PM

Quote from: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 30, 2006, 07:24:24 PM
To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago. Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College. This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu.

According to the Elmhurst baseball website, the head coach's e-mail address is clarkj@elmhurst.edu. I seriously doubt any coach would have the time or desire to check out the chat rooms and discussion boards at this time of year; they are far too busy conducting practices and filling out line-up cards!

BigPoppa · March 31, 2006, 08:57:43 PM

Quote from: mr_b on March 31, 2006, 08:35:11 PM
Quote from: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 30, 2006, 07:24:24 PM
To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago. Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College. This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu.

According to the Elmhurst baseball website, the head coach's e-mail address is clarkj@elmhurst.edu. I seriously doubt any coach would have the time or desire to check out the chat rooms and discussion boards at this time of year; they are far too busy conducting practices and filling out line-up cards!

If you double check the email address attached to the "dirty dozen" postings it is in fact clarkj@elmhurst.edu... not the previously stated cjones@elmhurst .edu

BLUEJAYFAITHFUL · March 31, 2006, 09:03:08 PM

Clark

Stop sending me personal messages under a different name - baseballnut. I still know it's you because YOU ARE STILL USING YOUR SCHOOL EMAIL.

BLUEJAYFAITHFUL · March 31, 2006, 09:10:01 PM

This message is to big poppa.

Double click on Dirty Dozen's Icon box and you'll see that the email address actually is clarkj@elmhurst.edu and I see that you've have cross referenced that on Elmhurst College's website. I apologize for my typo. But realize that my message still holds true as well as everything else I plan on writing about Clark.

BLUEJAYFAITHFUL · March 31, 2006, 09:31:25 PM

Clark

I liked your message. It brought a tear to my eye.

I won't bother to address your obvious lie. I'm sure Stevie Wonder blindfolded could see through it. I would like to discuss your "rhyme and reason" for typing in the third person and talking about how Clark Jones made such a great move bringing in an assistant who played in the major (Please refer to page 9).

I would also like to know your "rhyme and reason" for labeling your team as only normal, underdog guys who do the best with "what they got". Clark, if you would only give one ounce of effort everyone of those players could be all-stars. Every kid who plays college baseball has potential, but your pathetic attempt at "coaching" only hurts their chances of becoming more than "normal".

I believe coaches should look at their players by what they could be. As opposed to designating them to role players, or underdogs. You only look at kids as income into the school in order to preserve your job.

Nobody thinks of Elmhurst baseball as a family. No one is proud to say they played for Elmhurst. No wonder you don't have any money. Why would someone donate to a program that they won't even admit to playing for.

I just wish those kids now can get past your overbearing stupidity and get to play the game the way it is supposed to be played.