BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[D3Vike11]

North Park loses to University of Chicago 5-4 in 10 innings. The Vikings went up 4-0 in the first two innings, but 2 errors in the 6th allowed the tying run to score and in the 10th a 1-out double drove in the winning run for Chicago. North Park drops to 24-10 and 20-8 in region play after starting off 17-1. Big weekend series against Elmhurst for the Vikings if they want to get back on track.

[BigPoppa]

I think tomorrow's ranking may reflect that NPU is in a win the CCIW Pool A bid or be left out... Again. And Chicago will be sitting pretty.

[D3Vike11]

I think tomorrow's ranking may reflect that NPU is in a win the CCIW Pool A bid or be left out... Again. And Chicago will be sitting pretty.

It hurts me to agree, but the committee has not shown as much love to North Park in the past and I think until they win a conference tourney, Pool C bid's are going to be tough for North Park to get.

[izzy stradlin]

Trey Martin getting a start today on the bump for Wheaton.

[D3Vike11]

Trey Martin getting a start today on the bump for Wheaton.

And he's perfect through 3 with 4 k's.

[augie_superfan]

Since there seems to be a big possibility of ties in the final standings this year, I was wondering how people thought the tiebreaker is interpreted.  If 3 or more teams are tied, it seems to be cumulative head-to-head record of the 3 or more teams.  Here is what the website says:

The following are tiebreaker procedures for conference tournament seeding.
Note: "Head to Head should be interpreted as the cumulative record of head to head records between all the tied teams. In the case of a tie involving more than two teams, the tiebreaker criteria should be used to remove one team before going back to the original criteria (at the start) and attempting to break the teams that remain tied.  For example, when separating Teams A, B and C, which finished tied, the cumulative head to head records should be used.  In this case, the tiebreaker criteria may remove one team (Team C for example) from contention.  At that point, the process starts over with the applicable tiebreaker criteria when attempting to break the tie between Teams A and B."

So, if we are just to remove one team and then go back to head-to-head, what would happen in the following situation:

Team A vs. Team B   1 win to 2 wins
Team A vs. Team C   3 wins to 0 wins
Team B vs. Team C   1 win to 2 wins

Cumulative record:
Team A   4-2
Team B   3-3
Team C   2-4

If we just take the result that the order should be A,B,C then we get a different outcome than if we first take Team A as first place but then compare B and C again.  If we do that, C beat B 2 games to 1 thus meaning the order should be A,C,B.  Does anyone have a definitve answer on that?

[izzy stradlin]

Trey Martin getting a start today on the bump for Wheaton.

And he's perfect through 3 with 4 k's.

No-hitter broken up in the 5th.  It will be a huge boast to Wheaton if he can provide innings like this at the top of the rotation.  Interested to see if he's on a strict pitch count.   

[Mr. Ypsi]

Since there seems to be a big possibility of ties in the final standings this year, I was wondering how people thought the tiebreaker is interpreted.  If 3 or more teams are tied, it seems to be cumulative head-to-head record of the 3 or more teams.  Here is what the website says:

The following are tiebreaker procedures for conference tournament seeding.
Note: "Head to Head should be interpreted as the cumulative record of head to head records between all the tied teams. In the case of a tie involving more than two teams, the tiebreaker criteria should be used to remove one team before going back to the original criteria (at the start) and attempting to break the teams that remain tied.  For example, when separating Teams A, B and C, which finished tied, the cumulative head to head records should be used.  In this case, the tiebreaker criteria may remove one team (Team C for example) from contention.  At that point, the process starts over with the applicable tiebreaker criteria when attempting to break the tie between Teams A and B."

So, if we are just to remove one team and then go back to head-to-head, what would happen in the following situation:

Team A vs. Team B   1 win to 2 wins
Team A vs. Team C   3 wins to 0 wins
Team B vs. Team C   1 win to 2 wins

Cumulative record:
Team A   4-2
Team B   3-3
Team C   2-4

If we just take the result that the order should be A,B,C then we get a different outcome than if we first take Team A as first place but then compare B and C again.  If we do that, C beat B 2 games to 1 thus meaning the order should be A,C,B.  Does anyone have a definitve answer on that?

As I read the rule, it is the lowest team which drops out; once C is eliminated, B beat A h-to-h, so the order would be B,A,C.

[D3Vike11]

Zach Hofer is in the starting lineup for Elmhurst.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Despite his very disappointing season, Joe Sweeney seems to be Martel's #1 again after Chris Bobo's trainwreck against NPU - after 2 in RI, IWU 1, Augie 0.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A pitchers' duel in Rock Island - after 6.5, IWU 2, Augie 1.  Trotta has given up 5 hits, 2 earned runs; Sweeney but 4 hits and 0 earned runs.  I haven't checked the past records, but the Titans seem unusually error-prone this year - in the final game against NPU plus the first six innings today, 6 of 7 runs have been unearned!

[voiceofseason]

Despite his very disappointing season, Joe Sweeney seems to be Martel's #1 again after Chris Bobo's trainwreck against NPU - after 2 in RI, IWU 1, Augie 0.

I'm not sure Martel has a definitive #1 at present.  He used Bobo briefly Tuesday.  I think it's a matter of using a veteran pitcher on the road in a big game.

[voiceofseason]

Despite his very disappointing season, Joe Sweeney seems to be Martel's #1 again after Chris Bobo's trainwreck against NPU - after 2 in RI, IWU 1, Augie 0.

I'm not sure Martel has a definitive #1 at present.  He used Bobo briefly Tuesday.  I think it's a matter of using a veteran pitcher on the road in a big game.

And the veteran gets the job done.  Big win for IWU and Sweeney in Rock Island.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Trotta was very good - 7 hits, 3 runs - but today Sweeney was better - 5 hits, NO earned runs (one unearned).  Final, IWU 3, Augie 1.

Wheaton downed NCC, 5-4.  NCC is now 9-7, Wheaton 8-8.  (IWU is 10-6, Augie, 8-8.)

NPU/Elmhurst must be over or finishing up - any word?

[TitanPride]

Live stats reporting a blowout in Chicago: 15-1 North Park over Elmhurst.  Top of the 7th.