BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[letsplay2]

whoa, easy frank.  Don't blame me for your misinterpretation.  I just answered your question and you accused me of bashing coach elder and now I'm confusing... chill

Back to baseball talk... I don't know if anyone has posted about this recently but does anyone have any more details about Cunningham not being on the titan's roster?   

[The General Public]

Yeah. I do letsplay. But you once claimed to know more than me so I'll let you try and figure it out yourself.

[letsplay2]

Haha, touche GP. That was about wheaton football though, not titans baseball... That's quite the grudge you're holding on to.


Anyone other that GP have any more details about Cunningham?

[UcantCme]

3 weeks until the season openers for most teams
does anyone have any insight on some conference newcomers that will bust onto the scene
i have heard rumblings of a lefty pitcher at north central
and transfer at millikin

[The General Public]

Let's be honest. Is a transfer at Millikin, going to make them any better?  The can put a MLB player on their team and I still don't think it'd get them out of the bottom four.  A few quality transfers might help them out, but a single one, I don't think so.

Cunningham just didn't want to play.  He went there for school and originally was not planning on playing baseball but decided to his freshman year.  He has lost his love for the game.
Same with Foster.
   

[BigPoppa]

CCIW preseason poll is released:

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/

No real surprises as The Big Three remain in the top three spots, but I was a bit startled to see WHeaton earn two first-place votes. All in all, it looks to be a balanced league this year as four teams were given first place votes.

First Place votes in parenthesis:
1. Carthage (3)
2 (tie)Illinois Wesleyan (2)
         Augustana (1)
4. Wheaton College (2) 
5. (tie)North Central
           North Park   
7. (tie)Elmhurst College
           Millikin University

[BigPoppa]

Cathage gets a huge early test on their Southern Trip as they face Wooster in a single game and followed by Whitewater for three straight days. Thso four games could determine the strength of the Redmen right out of the gate.
ALL times are Eastern:
March 14- Ohio Wesleyan (11am)
                 Becker (2pm)

March 15-Lakeland (1:30 p.m)

March 16- Wooster (noon)

March 17- Southwest Minnesota State (DH) (11am)


March 20- Wisconsin-Whitewater (noon)
                 Otterbein (3pm)

March 21- Wisconsin-Whitewater (9am)
                 Otterbein (12:30)

March 22- Wisconsin-Whitewater (11am)




I do not see Carthage coming back from Florida a perfect 10-0 like last season, but I think a 8-3/7-4 trip is a reasonable expectation.

The other games (non- Wooster and Whitewater)look pretty winnable at this point, but who knows what will happen once the fields are chalked.

One aspect to note is that not a single game in this trip is an in-region contest. Hopefully, they can find a way to re-schedule a game or two to find an in-region opponent that week. The tough part about spring trips is that you have no (or very little) control over your schedule.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Unless baseball has different rules for in-region than football or basketball, UWW and Lakeland are in-region (as is SW Minnesota St, if they are even d3 - not familiar with them).

[BigG296]

CCIW preseason poll is released:

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/

No real surprises as The Big Three remain in the top three spots, but I was a bit startled to see WHeaton earn two first-place votes. All in all, it looks to be a balanced league this year as four teams were given first place votes.

First Place votes in parenthesis:
1. Carthage (3)
2 (tie)Illinois Wesleyan (2)
         Augustana (1)
4. Wheaton College (2) 
5. (tie)North Central
           North Park   
7. (tie)Elmhurst College
           Millikin University

Wow BigPoppa you are right.....Wheaton getting a couple of votes for first place is a little bit of a shocker.  Maybe the coaches just got bored voting for one of the same three teams to win it for the past decade?

[warrior35]

Mr. Ypsi,
In baseball there are actually several more regions.  All the schools in the CCIW are in the "Central" region along with Iowa and Northern Missouri.  The rest of the Wisconsin schools and minnesota schools are in the "Mid-West" region, so technically Carthage's games are not in-region.  Southwest Minnesota is a D2.  They finished 24-20 in a decent D2 conference.  It should be a nice challenge for them.  The difference with baseball is, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that non-auto. qualifier selections don't have to play regionals in their region they can switch them around to balance out regional strength, hence the reason why Carthage went North for regionals last year. 

[OshDude]

The Whitewater and Lakeland games are in-region for Carthage. Doubly in-region, in fact. Both are within 200 miles of Kenosha, and both are in Administrative Region #4. A Carthage/Chapman game would be in-region – even though the schools are 2,000 miles apart – because both are in the same Administrative Region (basically anything west of, and including, Illinois is an in-region game for Carthage. If CC were to play a team east of Illinois, check the mileage as to whether it's in-region).

Games are in-region if both teams are (only need to satisfy one of the following):
• In the same Evaluation Region (Central, Midwest, West, etc.)
• In the same conference
• In the same Administrative Region (there are four that are divided geographically)
• Within 200 miles of each other

[BigPoppa]

The Whitewater and Lakeland games are in-region for Carthage. Doubly in-region, in fact. Both are within 200 miles of Kenosha, and both are in Administrative Region #4. A Carthage/Chapman game would be in-region – even though the schools are 2,000 miles apart – because both are in the same Administrative Region (basically anything west of, and including, Illinois is an in-region game for Carthage. If CC were to play a team east of Illinois, check the mileage as to whether it's in-region).

Games are in-region if both teams are:
• In the same Evaluation Region (Central, Midwest, West, etc.)
• In the same conference
• In the same Administrative Region (there are four that are divided geographically)
• Within 200 miles of each other

If this is true, does anyone have a list of which schools fall in which Administration Regions?

[OshDude]

The Whitewater and Lakeland games are in-region for Carthage. Doubly in-region, in fact. Both are within 200 miles of Kenosha, and both are in Administrative Region #4. A Carthage/Chapman game would be in-region – even though the schools are 2,000 miles apart – because both are in the same Administrative Region (basically anything west of, and including, Illinois is an in-region game for Carthage. If CC were to play a team east of Illinois, check the mileage as to whether it's in-region).

Games are in-region if both teams are:
• In the same Evaluation Region (Central, Midwest, West, etc.)
• In the same conference
• In the same Administrative Region (there are four that are divided geographically)
• Within 200 miles of each other

If this is true, does anyone have a list of which schools fall in which Administration Regions?

Here are the Admin Regions:
Region 1: Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont.

Region 2: New York, Pennsylvania.

Region 3: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia.

Region 4: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

[theoneandonly]

The Whitewater and Lakeland games are in-region for Carthage. Doubly in-region, in fact. Both are within 200 miles of Kenosha, and both are in Administrative Region #4. A Carthage/Chapman game would be in-region – even though the schools are 2,000 miles apart – because both are in the same Administrative Region (basically anything west of, and including, Illinois is an in-region game for Carthage. If CC were to play a team east of Illinois, check the mileage as to whether it's in-region).

Games are in-region if both teams are:
• In the same Evaluation Region (Central, Midwest, West, etc.)
• In the same conference
• In the same Administrative Region (there are four that are divided geographically)
• Within 200 miles of each other

If this is true, does anyone have a list of which schools fall in which Administration Regions?

Here are the Admin Regions:
Region 1: Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont.

Region 2: New York, Pennsylvania.

Region 3: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia.

Region 4: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

So you're saying Illinois schools are in the same region as Hawaii and Alaska? if so thats a pretty crazy region.

[mr_b]

Region 4: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

So you're saying Illinois schools are in the same region as Hawaii and Alaska? if so thats a pretty crazy region.

It looks that way, but of course there are no DIII teams in Hawaii or Alaska.

Imagine if there were -- what a travel budget for conference games that would be!