BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 07, 2011, 08:01:34 PM
Attempting to determine home field for the tourney (please check my calculations):

Having a winning record against everyone (except freakin' Elmhurst! :o), IWU hosts if they win tomorrow.

If IWU loses, Carthage hosts with a win tomorrow.

I don't think NPU or NCC can host with any scenario.  And I can't find a scenario where Augie makes the tourney - I think they have been eliminated.  (Which makes me wonder if they will bother with the Augie/NPU make-up game.)

If IWU loses and NPU beats Carthage, I'm pretty sure IWU hosts, having a winning record against all teams they might tie with.  (It would be so much simpler if IWU had not laid an egg against freakin' Elmhurst! ::))

Sorry, jaybird, for saying 'freakin' Elmhurst' so may times in one post! ;D

So here is a big what if. What happens if North Park beats Carthage tomorrow and North Central beats Illinois Wesleyan? Would Augustana and North Park have to make up there game to see who would actually host the tourney. And what would happen if Augustana were to beat North Park? Wouldn't that leave all teams in the conference tournament at 14-7? Who would host? Still IWU? Again, a big what if...

Mr. Ypsi

Under your scenario, NPU and Augie might have to make up their game to see what team is 'odd-man-out' (not sure on that), but I'm pretty sure IWU would host, since they have the tie-break against all four other teams.

The ONLY conference series they lost was against freakin' Elmhurst.  (Again, my apologies to jaybird or any other Elmhurst supporter - I can't stop saying 'freakin' Elmhurst! ;D)

mwunder

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 07, 2011, 09:04:04 PM
Under your scenario, NPU and Augie might have to make up their game to see what team is 'odd-man-out' (not sure on that), but I'm pretty sure IWU would host, since they have the tie-break against all four other teams.

The ONLY conference series they lost was against freakin' Elmhurst.  (Again, my apologies to jaybird or any other Elmhurst supporter - I can't stop saying 'freakin' Elmhurst! ;D)

Under the IWU and Carthage lose scenario, technically NPU would have the higher winning % since they played one fewer game right?  Carthage and IWU would be 14-7 while NPU would be 14-6.  If the missed game is not made up, I think NPU would host.

Mr. Ypsi

mwunder, I would certainly hope that the conference would not allow a missed game to determine the title! 

But you are certainly right that I overlooked a scenario where NPU could host.  IF they win tomorrow (and IWU loses) and beat Augie in the make up game, the tourney is in Chicago.

I'm fairly certain the tourney cannot be in Naperville.

All is moot if IWU wins tomorrow. ;)  Go Titans! ;D

mr_b

Not sure if I'm missing something, but the CCIW website shows that Carthage and Wesleyan as having clinched a CCIW berth, but North Park has not.  At 13-6 with two games to play, the worst North Park can do is 13-8.  If North Central wins tomorrow, the Cardinals will also be 13-8 but hold the tie-breaker over Augustana.  Augie, for their part, sit at 11-8; if they win two, they would also finish 13-8, but North Park holds the tiebreaker over Augie, as does North Central.  As such, North Park should have also clinched a berth.

Mr. Ypsi

As I see it, Augie is out (they could still tie NCC and/or NPU, but lose tie-breakers to either).  All four berths are determined; what is still up for grabs is seeding and hosting.

If IWU wins, they host.

If IWU loses, but Carthage wins, Carthage hosts.

If IWU loses and Carthage loses, NPU hosts IF they beat Augie; IWU hosts if Augie beats NPU.

I THINK I finally have it right (and would hate to see NPU host just because the Augie game was not made up :o).

mr_b

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 07, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
I THINK I finally have it right (and would hate to see NPU host just because the Augie game was not made up :o).
I don't think it's an option not to play the game; it could potentially play a big role in the tournament seeding and even the hosting.


Mr. Ypsi

I am still in shock over today's DH.  Prior to today, NCC had not been shut out all season long, and held under 3 runs only once.  23-0 - are you kidding me?!

I don't think IWU has the depth of pitching it takes to have a miracle run like last season, but Pankau and Sweeney sure make a nice front two!  If someone else can come to the fore, that could get them to Appleton again.

Their hitting is a bit suspect, but they didn't go today against tomato cans - Rashid was 5-0, Arenson was 4-1 - and they did it virtually without Kevin Callahan.

While my waking self doesn't even dare dream of last season's finish, you may have gathered that I'm getting pretty fond of this team! :D

Mr. Ypsi


Dennis_Prikkel

I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Mr. Ypsi

After 8.5 in Naperville, IWU 8, NCC 2.

Barring a miracle comeback, looks like the conference tourney will be in B'town. :)

Mr. Ypsi

No miracles for NCC, as they go 1,2,3 in the 9th.

Dennis_Prikkel

accordion to north park's schedule - augiestana is coming to chicago tomorrow (Monday), time TBA

north park can tie for the conference title with a win
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: dennis_prikkel on May 08, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
accordion to north park's schedule - augiestana is coming to chicago tomorrow (Monday), time TBA

north park can tie for the conference title with a win

accordion?

Man, you must have some weird voice recognition patterns in the Dragon Naturally Speaking!

:D   ;D   :)