BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[CCIWFAN6]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

[NCF]

sitting in beautiful downtown naperville getting see NCC dominate on the track and the diamond. NC won game 1, 3-2 and is leading 8-1 in game 2 against Carthage.

Final in game 2: NC 8, Carthage 1

The Cards could not close out the week-end with a sweep of Carthage as they dropped yesterday by the score of 3-5.

[NCF]

Today's box score isn't up yet, but if my calculations are correct, NPU outhit MU this weekend by a tally of .392 to .189. Millikin is, to put it diplomatically, not exactly the 1927 Yankees.

Well, I don't know about that. Imagine how old the 1927 Yankees would be now...

...and how fat The Babe would be!!!! He could probably win the hot dog eating contest as well!!

[warrior35]

It appears that the newly renovated Legion Field will be ready for the North Park game this weekend.  Would love a report of what people think of it if anyone is planning on going to the game.  The stadium isn't going to be done this year, but new turf and lights should make for a very nice environment to watch a game!

[Gregory Sager]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

Nevertheless, that is an example of a CCIW champ that was left out of the D3 tourney.

[warrior35]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

Nevertheless, that is an example of a CCIW champ that was left out of the D3 tourney.

Indeed, and it's probably even a better example of one of the many reasons why the NCAA doesn't give auto bids to regular season conference champs.  There's never a "co-champion" of a conference tournament, whereas it would be entirely possible to have 3 regular season co-champs on any given year.  It's just easier for the conference tourney to sort it out, maybe not necessarily the fairest way but that's why most conferences limit the number of teams that actually get in to the conference tourney.  I think it's smart for the CCIW to limit to 4 and while I enjoy the ability of allowing 6 teams in (like the IIAC) to motivate the bottom of the conference throughout the year, if I was put at gun point I would prefer to have the best teams in the tourney.  Btw, I don't know of a single time a #4 seed has won the CCIW... any stats guys out there know?

[Mr. Ypsi]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

Nevertheless, that is an example of a CCIW champ that was left out of the D3 tourney.

Indeed, and it's probably even a better example of one of the many reasons why the NCAA doesn't give auto bids to regular season conference champs.  There's never a "co-champion" of a conference tournament, whereas it would be entirely possible to have 3 regular season co-champs on any given year.  It's just easier for the conference tourney to sort it out, maybe not necessarily the fairest way but that's why most conferences limit the number of teams that actually get in to the conference tourney.  I think it's smart for the CCIW to limit to 4 and while I enjoy the ability of allowing 6 teams in (like the IIAC) to motivate the bottom of the conference throughout the year, if I was put at gun point I would prefer to have the best teams in the tourney.  Btw, I don't know of a single time a #4 seed has won the CCIW... any stats guys out there know?

How soon they forget!  I'm pretty sure that would be 2010.  IWU proceeded to win the conference tourney, the regional, and the World Series!

[D3Vike11]

North Park finally moves up the Top 25 rankings and sit at 20th.

[Gregory Sager]

Hat tip to Big Poppa for that.

[Pat Coleman]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

Nevertheless, that is an example of a CCIW champ that was left out of the D3 tourney.

Indeed, and it's probably even a better example of one of the many reasons why the NCAA doesn't give auto bids to regular season conference champs.

Actually, it's the conference that determines who its automatic bid goes to, not the NCAA. If a conference wanted to give its automatic bid to the regular-season champion, it could do so. And the CCIW did in men's basketball for years, while a few conferences still do so in baseball.

[warrior35]

How soon they forget!  I'm pretty sure that would be 2010.  IWU proceeded to win the conference tourney, the regional, and the World Series!

Yikes!  Shows how closely I paid attention in 2010... My bad. When was the last time before that?

[Just Bill]

North Park was left out last year.

Yes they were left out, however, IWU shared that regular season championship and got an at large bid after Carthage won the AQ.

Nevertheless, that is an example of a CCIW champ that was left out of the D3 tourney.

Indeed, and it's probably even a better example of one of the many reasons why the NCAA doesn't give auto bids to regular season conference champs.

Actually, it's the conference that determines who its automatic bid goes to, not the NCAA. If a conference wanted to give its automatic bid to the regular-season champion, it could do so. And the CCIW did in men's basketball for years, while a few conferences still do so in baseball.

Conferences can hand out the AQ virtually any way they see fit. I know a league who once had a point system which combined regular season and tournament play for soccer. One time a team lost the tournament championship game, but still won the AQ.

[BigPoppa]

The CCIW used to assign a point value for game and post season games... most points earned got the bid. Carthage once lost the conference tourney and got the auto-bid regardless based on higher points.

[Viking Blue]

The CCIW used to assign a point value for game and post season games... most points earned got the bid. Carthage once lost the conference tourney and got the auto-bid regardless based on higher points.

That actually seems to make a lot more sense.  That might sound like sour grapes coming from a North Park fan, but wouldn't it be more logical to take an automatic bid from a larger body of work than a single weekend in a tournament?

[Viking Blue]

North Park 4, Carthage 0, Bot 5 in Game 1 at North Park.

Bottom of the line-up doing all of the damage for the Vikings, as #5-9 are a combined 8 for 14 through the first 5 frames. Carthage has only managed 2 hits against NP starter Travis Boyer.