BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[CCIWFAN6]

Not assuming that at all... Just stating we obviously viewed the other in different ways.

[D3Vike11]

Changing the subject...

If the season ended right now, who would deserve Pitcher of the Year?

Kuligowski (North Park): 8-2, 66 IP, 2.17 ERA, 68/20 K/BB

Trotta (Augustana): 6-0, 51 IP, 1.75 ERA, 33/15 K/BB

Rohe (Carthage): 4-2, 53 IP, 2.35 ERA, 30/11 K/BB

Singh (North Central): 4-2, 55 IP, 2.09 ERA, 37/22 K/BB

[CCIWFAN6]

Changing the subject...

If the season ended right now, who would deserve Pitcher of the Year?

Kuligowski (North Park): 8-2, 66 IP, 2.17 ERA, 68/20 K/BB

Trotta (Augustana): 6-0, 51 IP, 1.75 ERA, 33/15 K/BB

Rohe (Carthage): 4-2, 53 IP, 2.35 ERA, 30/11 K/BB

Singh (North Central): 4-2, 55 IP, 2.09 ERA, 37/22 K/BB

I was under the impression the coaches made the decisions for All-Conference/ POY awards based on conference stats only.  Am I wrong on this?

[Gregory Sager]

So you are saying Carthage is rooting for North Park to win?

Wait, I think I just saw a flying pig.

The flying pig comes only when Carthage roots for IWU to win... and, as a true Carthaginian, I would rather miss the playoffs than cheer for the Green Weenies

This is exactly how NPU folks feel about Wheaton in any and every sport ... but, in this case, I will nevertheless swallow the psychic cod liver oil and root for the Orange DuPage team this coming weekend. Better to see North Central tumble in the standings than to indulge my dyed-in-the-wool antipathy towards Wheaton as a North Park alumnus.

So you are saying Carthage is rooting for North Park to win?

Wait, I think I just saw a flying pig.

The flying pig comes only when Carthage roots for IWU to win... and, as a true Carthaginian, I would rather miss the playoffs than cheer for the Green Weenies

Had a chance to talk to several Carthage parents when IWU played up in Kenosha a couple of weeks ago, and the general consensus is they are starting to dislike NPU more than IWU.  Were some very interesting comments being made.

Good!  Glad to hear that as a North Park fan.  You don't "hate" another team until they pose a distinct threat to you. 

I echo that sentiment. While Parkers in general have it in for Wheaton in a generic, across-the-board sense, the NPU baseball program in particular has always targeted Carthage as the ultimate enemy -- mostly out of respect for the Red Men's accomplishments and annual prowess on the diamond, but due quite a bit to Augie Schmidt's gamesmanship as well. And, no, I don't think that Dennis Martel is well-liked around the league, either (and I would imagine that Luke Johnson's beginning to get some of that same sort of dislike), but if you asked current Vikings players as well as NPU baseball alumni (such as Viking Blue and D3Vike11), I think that they'd identify Carthage as Public Enemy Number One as far as North Park baseball is concerned.

[Gregory Sager]

Carthage (15-14) defeated Aurora (25-8) today in Kenosha, 8-2. That's a nice win.

[Gregory Sager]

North Central (19-11) skunked Dominican (16-18), 11-0 in seven innings in Naperville today.

[TitanPride]

Wesleyan beat Wash U 2-1 tonight in Bloomington.

[BigPoppa]

IWU is starting to set itself up for a possible Pool C bid... Carthage is doing it too late. Nice win vs Aurora today but they need win the CCIW tourney (if they even get in) to get a NCAA bid.

[D3Vike11]

North Park faces off against Chicago tomorrow. Chicago is coming off a nice series win against Wash U (who have now gone 1-6 in their last 7 games).

IWU does look to be in a good position to get a Pool C bid. The NCAA currently has them IWU ranked 27th, and I can see them putting them at Number 1 in the Region (considering they don't have anyone else in the Central region ranked higher than Wesleyan).

Will be interesting to see where the NCAA puts North Park...

[Mr. Ypsi]

April 29, 2010: IWU was 14-17.
June 1, 2010, IWU was the National Champion.

Their success this year is scaring the hell out of me!

[79jaybird]

D3Vike11- My biased, "kin" vote would be Trotta (1st Cousin), however either him or Kuligowski would be my choices.  I think you also have to look at who's more valuable to their respective team. 

[warrior35]

A true Carthage fan, while having no fear of another team, feels general disdain for IWU, not NPU. When I played, North Central was our biggest CCIW rival, but we did not hate them... we still hated IWU. (And you can +K or -K me based on the honesty of that statement.) Ask Augie who he cannot stand and the answer will always be IWU.

I would say that is true of a lot of teams in lots of sports.  From the perspective of Wheaton in the 2000's I know there was respect for Carthage and IWU, and while North Central was the closest and theoretically should have been our natural rival... Augustana was always the big rival... we made Beat Augie shirts, never anything for NCC. 

[izzy stradlin]

North Park faces off against Chicago tomorrow. Chicago is coming off a nice series win against Wash U (who have now gone 1-6 in their last 7 games).

IWU does look to be in a good position to get a Pool C bid. The NCAA currently has them IWU ranked 27th, and I can see them putting them at Number 1 in the Region (considering they don't have anyone else in the Central region ranked higher than Wesleyan).

Will be interesting to see where the NCAA puts North Park...

The ABCA poll you are refering to that has IWU 27th has nothing to do with the NCAA or regional rankings. The central region rankings are not determined by the NCAA but by the regional committe (a handful of central region coaches) and their interpretation of the "criteria" (in-region win%, sos, etc..). 

[BigPoppa]

I think IWU comes in at either #2 or #3 in the regional poll.

[D3Vike11]

North Park faces off against Chicago tomorrow. Chicago is coming off a nice series win against Wash U (who have now gone 1-6 in their last 7 games).

IWU does look to be in a good position to get a Pool C bid. The NCAA currently has them IWU ranked 27th, and I can see them putting them at Number 1 in the Region (considering they don't have anyone else in the Central region ranked higher than Wesleyan).

Will be interesting to see where the NCAA puts North Park...

The ABCA poll you are refering to that has IWU 27th has nothing to do with the NCAA or regional rankings. The central region rankings are not determined by the NCAA but by the regional committe (a handful of central region coaches) and their interpretation of the "criteria" (in-region win%, sos, etc..).

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