BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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ljt2006

But they do publish the roster of the Bears in July with all the players whether they make the team or not, that to me is a senseless arguement and begs the question.
Where is the schedule?  Aren't games locked up years in advance (one visit to my place, next visit to yours)?  What is it really, lasiness? Indifference?
It harms no one to see who is being looked at and updates the websites with information, then it can confuse competition and make for some wonderful conversations over cocoa during the winter days of Dec & Jan before teams head out where? I don't know, it is not published ??? Why ???

goldengear

Perhaps I didn't write clearly enough, I was using the Bears Training Camp Roster as an example to respond to Mr. B that often times rosters are printed even though they have little relevance once the real season rolls around.

BigPoppa

Quote from: ljt2006 on October 04, 2007, 12:50:09 AM

Where is the schedule?  Aren't games locked up years in advance (one visit to my place, next visit to yours)?  What is it really, lasiness? Indifference?
It harms no one to see who is being looked at and updates the websites with information, then it can confuse competition and make for some wonderful conversations over cocoa during the winter days of Dec & Jan before teams head out where? I don't know, it is not published ??? Why ???


From my own experiences a college head coach, often the schedules are not finalized until sometime in October. Coaches spend the summer recruiting players and the start of the school year in fall-ball. I doubt it has anything to do with laziness as it often just a result of trying to find an available team to play. Conference schedules are done a year in advance, but most coaches will not commit to non-conference games until the late summer/early fall. They sometimes need to wait for the Spring Break schedules to post before knowing how many "other" games they can schedule. Most programs that travel south for Spring Break let someone else (host school or tourney organizer) do the scheduling for them and cannot always know exactly how many games they will play on that trip.

A coach can want to get it done all he wants, but if other coaches are not ready to finalize, they cannot schedule games together.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Titan Q

IWU has a transfer that is expected to make an impact this year - LHP Joe Froelich from Coastal Carolina University...

http://www.goccusports.com/baseball/?player=1551


I know the coaching staff feels like IWU's freshmen class is very strong.  Here is the roster...

http://www2.iwu.edu/menssports/baseball/base_roster08.shtml



mwunder

Why isn't Jose Alba back with the Red Men this season?  Anyone know?

BigPoppa

Carthage has anounced its Spring Break schedule in Tampa Florida. Carthage plays a the College of Mount St. Joseph in a Sunday, March 16 doubleheader.  On Monday, March 17, the Red Men take on Centenary College in a twinbill.  Following an off-day on Tuesday, March 18, Carthage faces the University of Dallas in a Wednesday, March 19 doubleheader.  On Thursday, March 20, the Red Men play McDaniel College in a single game.  The trip concludes with single games versus St. Norbert College on both Friday, March 21 and Saturday, March 22.

This is not the toughest southern trip Carthage has in front of them. Their toughest games should be with d3baseball.com #37 UT-Dallas and with #58 Mount St. Joseph.


Anybody have any infomation on Centenary College and McDaniel College?

It will be nice to see Carthage face D3baseball.com's pre-season First Team shortstop, Adam Frost and his St. Norbert's teammates on back to back day to finish the trip.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Spence

Quote from: BigPoppa on January 23, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
Carthage has anounced its Spring Break schedule in Tampa Florida. Carthage plays a the College of Mount St. Joseph in a Sunday, March 16 doubleheader.  On Monday, March 17, the Red Men take on Centenary College in a twinbill.  Following an off-day on Tuesday, March 18, Carthage faces the University of Dallas in a Wednesday, March 19 doubleheader.  On Thursday, March 20, the Red Men play McDaniel College in a single game.  The trip concludes with single games versus St. Norbert College on both Friday, March 21 and Saturday, March 22.

This is not the toughest southern trip Carthage has in front of them. Their toughest games should be with d3baseball.com #37 UT-Dallas and with #58 Mount St. Joseph.


Anybody have any infomation on Centenary College and McDaniel College?

It will be nice to see Carthage face D3baseball.com's pre-season First Team shortstop, Adam Frost and his St. Norbert's teammates on back to back day to finish the trip.

McDaniel was 9-22 last year, 4-14 in the Centennial.
Centenary was 22-13 last year, 13-5 in conference last year which wasn't that the Skyline? They're now a New York region team, in the Pennsylvania Athletic Conference, located in New Jersey.

mr_b

Quote from: BigPoppa on January 23, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
This is not the toughest southern trip Carthage has in front of them. Their toughest games should be with d3baseball.com #37 UT-Dallas and with #58 Mount St. Joseph.


Teams ranked #37 and #58?  Where do you get these rankings?

KYGrizzly

He probably got them from the poll on the front page of the D3baseball. They were teams that also received votes. 

mr_b

Quote from: KYGrizzly on January 24, 2008, 01:18:50 PM
He probably got them from the poll on the front page of the D3baseball. They were teams that also received votes. 
Thanks.  I figured it had something to do with the "received votes" category, but I wouldn't read too much into  it.  That is to say, I wonder how significant that measure really is when you gauge match-ups after you get past the two or three teams that just missed out on making the top 25.

BigPoppa

Quote from: mr_b on January 24, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: KYGrizzly on January 24, 2008, 01:18:50 PM
He probably got them from the poll on the front page of the D3baseball. They were teams that also received votes. 
Thanks.  I figured it had something to do with the "received votes" category, but I wouldn't read too much into  it.  That is to say, I wonder how significant that measure really is when you gauge match-ups after you get past the two or three teams that just missed out on making the top 25.

Whether their opponents are ranked or not, it is a relatively weak spring break schedule for the Redmen. Dallas could be their toughest matchup on the trip, unless St. Norberts rallies around its All-American shortstop.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

REDMENFAN

Here's the link to the Carthage player profiles.  Just go to players, and select profiles, not roster.  With Jose gone, the most likely candidate to fill the spot at SS is Joe Ferro, a transfer from a junior college.  The strength of the Redmen this year should be their 5 returning senior outfielders, and their starting pitching.

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/

matblake


knarocky22

From the way the preseason CCIW coaches poll looks, it appears that the expectation is for the CCIW to be a 3-team race again among Carthage, IWU, and Augie.

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2008preseasonpoll.php

Also, Ricky Angel and Matt Aronson from IWU, and Marc Blakeley from Augie were named Preseason 1st Team All-Americans, with Blakeley and Angel as unanimous selections.

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2008D3Baseballpreseason.php

Mr. Ypsi

I don't think it is any surprise that virtually everyone sees it as a 3-team race.  My questions:

1.  Will any of the top three lay an egg - if so, who and why?

2.  Will any of the also-rans surprise their way into contention - if so, who and why?

My answers would be no and no, but most of you know the teams far better than I.