BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[mr_b]

Current #2 ranked Carthage has a real shot at starting the season 29-0.

Heck, why stop there?  Why not 40-0 as they run the table? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Current #2 ranked Carthage has a real shot at starting the season 29-0.

Heck, why stop there?  Why not 40-0 as they run the table? 

In defense of BP, 29-0 sounds very doable (though, as he also noted, it probably won't happen).  40-0 would require sweeping both Augie and IWU - even with all games in Kenosha, that seems highly improbable.  The Titans have a couple of guys the RedMen would well remember (first team AAs Aronson and Angel), plus a sophomore pitcher they probably wouldn't (Brent Kuvalic, this week's CCIW POW).

[mr_b]

Of course, Carthage is capable of going 29-0 -- why not?  They can put up a lot of runs in a hurry and are fundamentally very sound in all aspects of the game -- but they were taken to the wire recently by Millikin, Wheaton, and North Park, and their schedule doesn't allow for any breaks.

A team should worry about 29-0 only when they are 28-0.

[mwunder]

Of course, Carthage is capable of going 29-0 -- why not?  They can put up a lot of runs in a hurry and are fundamentally very sound in all aspects of the game -- but they were taken to the wire recently by Millikin, Wheaton, and North Park, and their schedule doesn't allow for any breaks.

A team should worry about 29-0 only when they are 28-0.

Last time I checked, BigPoppa was in California and has nothing to do with the current Carthage Red Men team, so I don't think you have to worry about the team that's in Kenosha worrying about being 29-0, much less 21-0 at this point.  If you think Augie will let their focus drift that far ahead, you know nothing about the Carthage program or it's coach.

[mwunder]

Here's my question for the North Parkers.

With the tying run on second, and one out in the 10th, why even take your chances pitching to Acevado?  Hodges was 0-5 on the day prior to that and a freshman (who ultimately came through in the clutch) is next.  Yes, you put the winning run on, but you also give yourself a chance to leave the tying run standing at 3rd.

I know it's a "hindsight is 20/20 question", but was this even considered?  Any insider knowledge on this one?

[mr_b]

Of course, Carthage is capable of going 29-0 -- why not?  They can put up a lot of runs in a hurry and are fundamentally very sound in all aspects of the game -- but they were taken to the wire recently by Millikin, Wheaton, and North Park, and their schedule doesn't allow for any breaks.

A team should worry about 29-0 only when they are 28-0.

Last time I checked, BigPoppa was in California and has nothing to do with the current Carthage Red Men team, so I don't think you have to worry about the team that's in Kenosha worrying about being 29-0, much less 21-0 at this point.  If you think Augie will let their focus drift that far ahead, you know nothing about the Carthage program or it's coach.

The subsequent postings were directed at his original statement.  Nothing else should be read into any responses.

[yank52]

Ah!  another spring weekend, forecast for tonight rain, sleet, snow high of 30??

Looks like North Park has some detractors, but that is only natural when you are really interesting in seeing them succeed.
This week end is big, the Vikings can bury North Central with a sweep and get back to .500 in the conference, history states that this won't occur but  the Vikings are offensive this year.  What says the other fans?

[Mr. Ypsi]

After taking a closer look, I'm feeling even better about IWU's 15-4 record.  All four losses came in the first six games of the season.  In game six (a classic pitchers' duel ) they lost 21-16 at then 15-7 Millsaps.  In game five they lost 8-6 at then 9-3 Mississippi College.  In games four and one they lost to then 8-1 Adrian.  In other words, our 'spring training' games were against teams already 32-11 on the season!

In one of those weirdnesses that rarely happen except in baseball, Adrian would now be 22-2 except they lost both games at Rose-Hulman, the same weekend that IWU beat RHIT in games two and three of the season!

[Ralph Turner]

The tests for Millsaps and Mississippi College will be the Trinity series and the UOzarks and UT-Tyler series, respectively.  The ASC-East has three very weak teams that has given Mississippi College 9 easy wins to date.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The tests for Millsaps and Mississippi College will be the Trinity series and the UOzarks and UT-Tyler series, respectively.  The ASC-East has three very weak teams that has given Mississippi College 9 easy wins to date.

I have no clue how 'accurate' their won-lost records may be.  My point was that they were in mid-season form; we were in 'spring training'.  (But thanks for the info. )

And that outcomes like Adrian-RHIT-IWU almost never happen in basketball, football, or any sport but baseball!   (MLB is not d3, but there almost everyone eventually wins between 40 and 60 percent of their games.)

[Ralph Turner]

The tests for Millsaps and Mississippi College will be the Trinity series and the UOzarks and UT-Tyler series, respectively.  The ASC-East has three very weak teams that has given Mississippi College 9 easy wins to date.

I have no clue how 'accurate' their won-lost records may be.  My point was that they were in mid-season form; we were in 'spring training'.  (But thanks for the info. )

And that outcomes like Adrian-RHIT-IWU almost never happen in basketball, football, or any sport but baseball!   (MLB is not d3, but there almost everyone eventually wins between 40 and 60 percent of their games.)

No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference.
-- Tommy Lasorda

[Titan Q]

After taking a closer look, I'm feeling even better about IWU's 15-4 record.  All four losses came in the first six games of the season.  In game six (a classic pitchers' duel ) they lost 21-16 at then 15-7 Millsaps.  In game five they lost 8-6 at then 9-3 Mississippi College.  In games four and one they lost to then 8-1 Adrian.  In other words, our 'spring training' games were against teams already 32-11 on the season!

In one of those weirdnesses that rarely happen except in baseball, Adrian would now be 22-2 except they lost both games at Rose-Hulman, the same weekend that IWU beat RHIT in games two and three of the season!

Note that IWU head coach Dennis Martel won't throw one of his top pitchers vs an out-of-region team.

IWU's top 3 are:

Matt Aronson (4-0, 1.29 ERA, 35 IP/33 K)
Brent Kulavic (3-0, 0.00 ERA, 23 IP, 26 K)
Pat Kirchhofer (2-0, 4.56 ERA, 23 IP, 13 K)

At the Rose-Hulman tournament, IWU threw Jesse Foster and Joe Foelich vs out-of-region Adrian (and lost both), but then Aronson and Kirchhofer vs in-region Rose-Hulman (and won both).

In two games vs Mississippi College, the Titans started Jason Pankau and Alex Tosi (and lost both), and then finished the trip by starting Foster vs Union in a win.

IWU's final three non-conference games were in-region.  IWU went with Kirchhofer vs Benedictine, Aronson vs Wash U, and Kulavic vs Wabash (and won all three).

CCIW game starters for IWU have been:

Aronson (2)
Kulavic (2)
Kirchhofer (2)
Foster (1)

IWU has the same amount of losses in-region as Carthage does (zero), and we all know that is the only number that matters for post-season seeding.

[yank52]

Think of this weekend only, today in 40degree weather with the wind howling, normal conditions for Chicago, NPU Vikings take on North Central, we need two today, no excuses.

Go vikings!!!!!!!

Bundle up, bring 2 blankets and quit complaining about the weather.

[mr_b]

North Park takes two from North Central, 9-7 and 12-2.

[yank52]

Hopefully, we hear about the birth of a new Viking soon!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great to see a doubleheader and victory, this pulls NPU to 13 and 13 for the year.
With 14 games left in the regular season it appears on the horizon that it could be possible to see a 20 win season, yawsaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Good luck this week and next weekend where the Vikings will confront the western Vikings in a clash of Nordic proportions!!!!!