FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference

[DanPadavona]

Well I'll start by saying "No disrespect to Fisher and RPI" who have beaten Cortland over the last few seasons.  The ECAC win in 2003 was clearly a launching pad game for Fisher.  RPI has never lost an ECAC game...go figure.

I think the problem is, Upstate, that the ECAC game is played exactly one week after Cortaca.  For the players involved, Cortaca feels like a national championship game.  Life and Death type stuff.

Win or lose in Cortaca, anything short of an NCAA invite is probably seen as a huge letdown.  Now I personally do not feel this way.  I love upstate football, and to me the ECAC game is a chance to test oneself against a great team which you never see during the regular season.  But to the players, and probably the IC players can be lumped into this, it just doesn't measure up.  I suppose if you sweat and beat yourself up from the middle of August until the middle of November, and the NCAA's don't come a calling, you probably pack it in mentally after Cortaca.

It probably seems like a cop-out to someone who hasn't experienced Cortaca.  But it is a huge letdown, even to the fans. 

Fisher probably beats Cortland in 2003 regardless - they were obviously going places.  And RPI wins fair and square in 2006, albeit against a 4th string freshman QB and a depleted roster.  But they did win convincingly.  Remember how bad Union beat IC several years back?  Did that seem representative of their seasons?

This isn't just a win-lose thing either.  Cortland's blow-out ECAC win in 2004 was a game devoid of intensity.  I heard the same thing on the Empire 8 boards when IC beat up Mass-Dartmouth.  It was like the Bombers were sleep walking.

I dunno.  I'm a big supporter of the ECAC's, but I'm probably in the decided minority.  Maybe some of the former players from Cortland and IC can weigh in?

[rams1102]

Well, the first week is in the books. I expected Rowan to win, but CNU coming away with the W was not a shock. They are a tough team. They always have a diffucult out of conference schedule. Kean I thought would win, but not by a monkey stomp.

Since we open-up with Wilkes, does anyone have any comment on that game. I think Montclair will be running into a hornets nest this week. Total yards was 290-132 Wilkes and Wilkes had 5 turnovers vs -0- for Willy P. Time of possession 33:00WP to 27:00 approx. I can't see Wilkes turning it over 5 times two weeks in a row. I would like to hear any thoughts.

I was at the Lackawana scrimage. Leave it to Montclair, moved it from 1:00 to 12:00. Got there 12:45. The offense looked good. You could see that the secondary is young and the vets will help them. We have to tackel better. No second chances. Mostly the second team played and that is what I saw.

I'll have the Pick Em's posted today. Congrats in advance to pg04.

[pg04]

Thanks!   I was quite shocked at the Willy P result, however.  The NJAC looks like it could be pretty interesting this year. 

[CNU85]

Well, the first week is in the books. I expected Rowan to win, but CNU coming away with the W was not a shock. They are a tough team. They always have a diffucult out of conference schedule. Kean I thought would win, but not by a monkey stomp.

Since we open-up with Wilkes, does anyone have any comment on that game. I think Montclair will be running into a hornets nest this week. Total yards was 290-132 Wilkes and Wilkes had 5 turnovers vs -0- for Willy P. Time of possession 33:00WP to 27:00 approx. I can't see Wilkes turning it over 5 times two weeks in a row. I would like to hear any thoughts.

I was at the Lackawana scrimage. Leave it to Montclair, moved it from 1:00 to 12:00. Got there 12:45. The offense looked good. You could see that the secondary is young and the vets will help them. We have to tackel better. No second chances. Mostly the second team played and that is what I saw.

I'll have the Pick Em's posted today. Congrats in advance to pg04.

I'm not familiar with Lackawana...I understand that they are a Jr College ?? They must have some talent....I noticed a CNU and Rowan player were transfers from there.

[theoriginalupstate]

Well, the first week is in the books. I expected Rowan to win, but CNU coming away with the W was not a shock. They are a tough team. They always have a diffucult out of conference schedule. Kean I thought would win, but not by a monkey stomp.

Since we open-up with Wilkes, does anyone have any comment on that game. I think Montclair will be running into a hornets nest this week. Total yards was 290-132 Wilkes and Wilkes had 5 turnovers vs -0- for Willy P. Time of possession 33:00WP to 27:00 approx. I can't see Wilkes turning it over 5 times two weeks in a row. I would like to hear any thoughts.

I was at the Lackawana scrimage. Leave it to Montclair, moved it from 1:00 to 12:00. Got there 12:45. The offense looked good. You could see that the secondary is young and the vets will help them. We have to tackel better. No second chances. Mostly the second team played and that is what I saw.

I'll have the Pick Em's posted today. Congrats in advance to pg04.

I'm not familiar with Lackawana...I understand that they are a Jr College ?? They must have some talent....I noticed a CNU and Rowan player were transfers from there.

Lackawanna is consistantly in the top 25 on the JUCO level.  They get all kinds of talent, heck Byron McKinnie (UofMiami and now with the Vikings) went there.  They are constantly sending kids to the D-1A level.

[CNU85]

Thanks upstate. I'm a huge Vikings fan and didn't know that about the big guy!

[rams1102]

Well, the first week is in the books. I expected Rowan to win, but CNU coming away with the W was not a shock. They are a tough team. They always have a diffucult out of conference schedule. Kean I thought would win, but not by a monkey stomp.

Since we open-up with Wilkes, does anyone have any comment on that game. I think Montclair will be running into a hornets nest this week. Total yards was 290-132 Wilkes and Wilkes had 5 turnovers vs -0- for Willy P. Time of possession 33:00WP to 27:00 approx. I can't see Wilkes turning it over 5 times two weeks in a row. I would like to hear any thoughts.

I was at the Lackawana scrimage. Leave it to Montclair, moved it from 1:00 to 12:00. Got there 12:45. The offense looked good. You could see that the secondary is young and the vets will help them. We have to tackel better. No second chances. Mostly the second team played and that is what I saw.

I'll have the Pick Em's posted today. Congrats in advance to pg04.

I'm not familiar with Lackawana...I understand that they are a Jr College ?? They must have some talent....I noticed a CNU and Rowan player were transfers from there.

You are correct. Lackawana is the staging grounds for many good programs. A few years ago I heard Notre Dame had a few kids going there for development.

[theoriginalupstate]

last time we played them (I went to Alfred State), we forced a turnover on the opening kick off and kicked a FG, we were so pumped.  They went on to score 53 unanswered points......

[catchball]

Well, the first week is in the books. I expected Rowan to win, but CNU coming away with the W was not a shock. They are a tough team. They always have a diffucult out of conference schedule. Kean I thought would win, but not by a monkey stomp.

Since we open-up with Wilkes, does anyone have any comment on that game. I think Montclair will be running into a hornets nest this week. Total yards was 290-132 Wilkes and Wilkes had 5 turnovers vs -0- for Willy P. Time of possession 33:00WP to 27:00 approx. I can't see Wilkes turning it over 5 times two weeks in a row. I would like to hear any thoughts.

I was at the Lackawana scrimage. Leave it to Montclair, moved it from 1:00 to 12:00. Got there 12:45. The offense looked good. You could see that the secondary is young and the vets will help them. We have to tackel better. No second chances. Mostly the second team played and that is what I saw.

I'll have the Pick Em's posted today. Congrats in advance to pg04.

I'm not familiar with Lackawana...I understand that they are a Jr College ?? They must have some talent....I noticed a CNU and Rowan player were transfers from there.

You are correct. Lackawana is the staging grounds for many good programs. A few years ago I heard Notre Dame had a few kids going there for development.

Both MSU starting backs were on the sidelines for todays scrimmage, but apparently that didn't stop the offense, the line played well gave Jump time to make some nice throws. The fullback impressed me, made some nice catches and good blocks for the RB. I think they have 2 very good backups to Mccoach and Vicardipane ( I heard the trainer talking to Mc Coach's parents both starting backs will be back this week).
The defense.played decent, they do need to wrap up and make strong tackles.
Score for the scrimmage a 7 out of 10.

[rams1102]

catchball,

Thanks for your comments. We gotta wrap-em when we get to Wilkes. Also spoke to the Mc Coaches and they said there is no way Ryan will miss the game. I'm looking forward to visiting Wilkes this Saturday. See you there !!!

LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rams1102]

Pick-Em's  For  Week #2  Are  Posted  !!!

[Pat Coleman]

Kean and Rowan are among teams discussed in this week's Around the Nation podcast. It's a wrapup of the interesting stories on the national scene, plus a chance to hear our opinions about teams:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/09/04/around-the-nations-take/

[bman]

Rams

I know it's late , but would you mind if I jumped in to the pick-em?

[rams1102]

Rams

I know it's late , but would you mind if I jumped in to the pick-em?

No problem to jump-in. As I have done last year I will give you the score of the lowest guy in from last week and then you are off and running.

[bman]

Thanks!