FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference

[Teamski]

Talk about uncharted territory for Wesley.  I am not used to the Wolverines walking backwards into the playoffs like this......  We will have to get used to this from now on as the NJAC yet once again gave Wesley its sole regular season loss.  And this time, there is no lofty Pool B position to depend on.  Yeah, our honeymoon is over: Welcome to the jungle.....

-SKi

[thewaterboy]

Talk about uncharted territory for Wesley.  I am not used to the Wolverines walking backwards into the playoffs like this......  We will have to get used to this from now on as the NJAC yet once again gave Wesley its sole regular season loss.  And this time, there is no lofty Pool B position to depend on.  Yeah, our honeymoon is over: Welcome to the jungle.....

-SKi

Uncharted territory for sure! 2013 was a little iffy, but if I remember correctly, Wesley ended up getting the Pool B bid anyway.

[pg04]

Despite it not being a number for the committee to crunch, if there is any doubt at all, I think Wesley's recent success would be considered.

[Frank Rossi]

That's only included if the teams being compared are undefeated.  Their SOS and W/L vs. RROs will likely prop them by more than enough to avoid any drama in the process for Pool C.

[Frank Rossi]

I would judge that Wesley, UWW, UMHB, and St. John's (in whatever order) are all essentially locks for Pool C.  The fifth and sixth spots are very much up in the air.

IF UMHB crushes ETBU just a week after they beat HSU, UMHB might even pass HSU for the B, and HSU might be dicier for a C, making it 4th, 5th, and 6th for the tourney.

UMHB is no lock currently -- really depends on where their SOS lands after the ETBU game because it's presently not impressive.  They will likely end up 2-1 vs. RROs, which will help matters.  If TLU and/or ETBU end up unranked, though, that could really muddy the waters.  I'll agree that the ETBU/UMHB result could help UMHB if UMHB routs ETBU, but right now, H-S is the odds-on favorite for the Pool B bid -- assuming especially that ETBU remains ranked.  If that remains the case, UMHB will have to worry about how the rest of the South board looks, but I'd guess they'd be at the top of the board for long enough to be picked.  Again, though, no lock quite yet.

[@d3jason]

I ducked into the S-W game before West Coast started.
Saw a good Wesley drive to answer what S had done before I tuned in. Was really surprised how S ran right through W to score on the next series. Right through them.
Then I left.

That 2011 game still hurts, huh? 

[thewaterboy]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

[D3MAFAN]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

[thewaterboy]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

Wesley would probably get in a bracket with UMU or Hopkins as I see it. Are you saying Wesley gets a "lower seed" if Salisbury wins? Pool A > Pool C? Wesley is in a weird spot at the top of the East AND a Pool C contender pending the results Saturday.

[wally_wabash]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

Wesley would probably get in a bracket with UMU or Hopkins as I see it. Are you saying Wesley gets a "lower seed" if Salisbury wins? Pool A > Pool C? Wesley is in a weird spot at the top of the East AND a Pool C contender pending the results Saturday.

A > C is not a thing.  Based on these rankings, Wesley would not play a game at Salisbury (hypothetically).  I'd have to dig, but I'm sure there are plenty of cases where Pool A teams have traveled to play Pool C teams in the first round or two. 

It IS weird that a Pool C team is #1 in the rankings.  I don't think I've seen that before. 

[D3MAFAN]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

Wesley would probably get in a bracket with UMU or Hopkins as I see it. Are you saying Wesley gets a "lower seed" if Salisbury wins? Pool A > Pool C? Wesley is in a weird spot at the top of the East AND a Pool C contender pending the results Saturday.

That is very interesting, to see a team seeded higher than a team they lost to from the same conference. For Wesley to possibly have two home games, they would have to be included in the top 8 seeds, which based upon the rankings, they would. It makes for an interesting discussion, for example, say both Salisbury and Wesley fall within the same bracket and ended of playing each other again, would Salisbury go to Wesley again? I think I heard in the past that the committee does not seed teams and changes every round, so again???

[D3MAFAN]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

Wesley would probably get in a bracket with UMU or Hopkins as I see it. Are you saying Wesley gets a "lower seed" if Salisbury wins? Pool A > Pool C? Wesley is in a weird spot at the top of the East AND a Pool C contender pending the results Saturday.

A > C is not a thing.  Based on these rankings, Wesley would not play a game at Salisbury (hypothetically).  I'd have to dig, but I'm sure there are plenty of cases where Pool A teams have traveled to play Pool C teams in the first round or two. 

It IS weird that a Pool C team is #1 in the rankings.  I don't think I've seen that before.

Exactly, I think that when the final rankings come into play, holding everything else equal, conference champions and others get included in the final rankings and I think NCC falls out of the North, making Wesley RRO 0-1 and they become the #2 behind Albright. You have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, Johns Hopkins, UW-Oshkosh, Albright, Wheaton, and Wabash that are most likely the top 8 seeds come final rankings. Then you have Hardin-Simmons with a similar resume with a better SOS right outside.

[Div3Fan]

The scenario you describes reminds me, albeit slightly, of the 2011-12 FBS season where LSU originally defeated Bama only to play them again in the national championship game.

If SU and Wesley play each other, it seems like they'd play at Wesley. I think that'd be very dull, as we all know what the result would be. I hope they aren't in the same bracket.

[D3MAFAN]

The scenario you describes reminds me, albeit slightly, of the 2011-12 FBS season where LSU originally defeated Bama only to play them again in the national championship game.
If SU and Wesley play each other, it seems like they'd play at Wesley. I think that'd be very dull, as we all know what the result would be. I hope they aren't in the same bracket.

Please do not remind me of that game I have still yet to watch in its entirety...I am still struggling how currently the ESecPN has Alabama at #2 currently in their make believe playoff.

[thewaterboy]

Good news Wesley fans! Wesley remains #1 in the East Regional Rankings. This bodes well for a potential Pool C bid!

Now my question is this: Does Wesley want Salisbury to win or lose on Saturday?

If Salisbury wins, then Wesley goes to Pool C with a 1-1 record vs. RROs and solid criteria. If Salisbury loses, then Wesley gets Pool A and their record against RROs goes to 1-0 (I see Salisbury dropping out if they lose this weekend), BUT would Wesley take a hit if Salisbury gets beat?

In other words a Sea Gull win (to me) would mean Pool C and a "higher seed" compared to a Sea Gull loss, which means Pool A and a "lower seed." Thoughts?

Right now, I have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, and Johns Hopkins as the possible #1 Seeds. I think Wesley gets a home game regardless of Saturdays result, but I don't see them having two home games if Salisbury Wins.

Wesley would probably get in a bracket with UMU or Hopkins as I see it. Are you saying Wesley gets a "lower seed" if Salisbury wins? Pool A > Pool C? Wesley is in a weird spot at the top of the East AND a Pool C contender pending the results Saturday.

A > C is not a thing.  Based on these rankings, Wesley would not play a game at Salisbury (hypothetically).  I'd have to dig, but I'm sure there are plenty of cases where Pool A teams have traveled to play Pool C teams in the first round or two. 

It IS weird that a Pool C team is #1 in the rankings.  I don't think I've seen that before.

Exactly, I think that when the final rankings come into play, holding everything else equal, conference champions and others get included in the final rankings and I think NCC falls out of the North, making Wesley RRO 0-1 and they become the #2 behind Albright. You have Mount Union, Linfield, St. Thomas, Johns Hopkins, UW-Oshkosh, Albright, Wheaton, and Wabash that are most likely the top 8 seeds come final rankings. Then you have Hardin-Simmons with a similar resume with a better SOS right outside.

D3MAFAN-MG, I'm confused.... How would NCC drop out? In the final rankings are all Pool A teams placed in or something?