FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference

[JT]

Hi All:  Based on who teams have returning, I have no problem with Rowan being #1.  Cortland has too many offensive question marks.  As I said previously, they have some great potential but they are very young.  Talented but young.  We also have new offensive coordinator.  Too many unknowns to rank us #1.

Hey, Jets are in town.  A great venue to watch camp.  It has been great for all involved.  Tonight's green and white scrimmage should be fun.  If you are planning on coming, start time has been changed to 6 PM.

a long time friend of pbr's is the def. coordinator for the jets...here's hoping he does well

Jets might not even sellout this year.  We dropped our tix last year.  No way we are paying a seat license.  We keep getting calls from the Jets offering better seats then we had (multiple locations) for the same price.  Said no.  Called me today offering same but dropping the preseason buy requirement.

Now this is a team that had a 7+ year waiting list in 2007.  Could the Jets be blacked out in NYC?

[PA_wesleyfan]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

[JT]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

[Ralph Turner]

http://newscenter.morrisville.edu/article.aspx?id=7002

Congratulations to new NJAC affiliate member, Morrisville.

[Ralph Turner]

Morrisville 2009 schedule...

http://newscenter.morrisville.edu/article.aspx?ID=7022

They open at Hartwick on 5Sep09.

[rams1102]

Unless I have missed something, I have found no 2009 rosters.  I don't know if that is NJAC or school rules.  Just now starting to see bits of info coming out since the league conference call.  Cortland seems to be tagging Dan Pitcher as their QB and has named captains but still no roster info.  http://cortlandfootball.blogspot.com/

The only NJAC team with a 2009 roster is Morrisville. Usually rosters do not get published until camp starts, but usually there is some info floating out there. I guess I'm just frustrated and can't wait for the season to start.

Keep in mind, we're still in early August. Most camps don't start for another week or so at least. This is why you need to sign up for the D3football.com Kickoff Preview to read the Montclair State preview

I was one of the first to sign up for  D3 Football.com Kickoff. Can I get a sneak peek.

[rams1102]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

[Knightstalker]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

I think it was to keep teams like Rowan, MSU and TCNJ from loading up on all the talent at the cost of the rest of the schools.  Of course Rowan, MSU and TCNJ all loaded up on the talent anyway.  But imagine if the big 3 had 200 man rosters like a Mt Union can have.  Kean and WPU very well could have gone the way of NJCU and Ramapo.

[phil]

...Ramapo was swiftly heading towards becoming one of the big three. I still think the administration pulled the plug on the entire program because of some rather shady things going down between the head coach, recruits, admissions, etc. One day Ramapo is undefeated and playing Trenton State for the NJAC championship and an NCAA tourney birth, the next day, phhhhhht. Gone.

[eastballfan]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

Also league regulations and size of schools.  Smaller schools like, lets say cortland have terrific facilities, but not enough room for players to work out or money to pay extra coaches and JV staff.  Cortland runs the JV within its regular program with nothin added, non travelors still practice and compete in the varsity practice, compared to, say... ithaca who has a completely seperate JV squad and coaching staff, (by the way cortland still usually beats ic's JV despite that advantage).

Persoanlly I am a huge fan of the 100 man roster, it makes recruiting a crucial part of the system which is part of being a good coach, and it makes players have a chance to earn their spots and have more of team chemistry.  anyway theres my 2 cents, feel free to agree or disagree.   

GO C-STATE

[clandfan]

Cortland isn't exactly a small school with 5000 undergrads but athletic budgets within the SUNY system are quite limited.  Personally, I think there is an advantage to be had with the roster limit.  Incoming players get more reps, have earlier opportunities.  It is hard to get that when you bring in 50+ freshmen.  To a recruit, I think that would be a positive.

[rams1102]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

Also league regulations and size of schools.  Smaller schools like, lets say cortland have terrific facilities, but not enough room for players to work out or money to pay extra coaches and JV staff.  Cortland runs the JV within its regular program with nothin added, non travelors still practice and compete in the varsity practice, compared to, say... ithaca who has a completely seperate JV squad and coaching staff, (by the way cortland still usually beats ic's JV despite that advantage).

Persoanlly I am a huge fan of the 100 man roster, it makes recruiting a crucial part of the system which is part of being a good coach, and it makes players have a chance to earn their spots and have more of team chemistry.  anyway theres my 2 cents, feel free to agree or disagree.   

GO C-STATE

Thanks for the feedback and also from everyone else. Your comment of better coaching, recruiting makes sense and the only drawback is when you get into the playoffs and play teams with 200 man rosters like Mount, Wesley etc you then have a disadvantage. It is my guess that the majority of the elite eight in playoffs are 200 man schools. That would be an interesting question to answer.

[JT]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

Also league regulations and size of schools.  Smaller schools like, lets say cortland have terrific facilities, but not enough room for players to work out or money to pay extra coaches and JV staff.  Cortland runs the JV within its regular program with nothin added, non travelors still practice and compete in the varsity practice, compared to, say... ithaca who has a completely seperate JV squad and coaching staff, (by the way cortland still usually beats ic's JV despite that advantage).

Persoanlly I am a huge fan of the 100 man roster, it makes recruiting a crucial part of the system which is part of being a good coach, and it makes players have a chance to earn their spots and have more of team chemistry.  anyway theres my 2 cents, feel free to agree or disagree.   

GO C-STATE

Thanks for the feedback and also from everyone else. Your comment of better coaching, recruiting makes sense and the only drawback is when you get into the playoffs and play teams with 200 man rosters like Mount, Wesley etc you then have a disadvantage. It is my guess that the majority of the elite eight in playoffs are 200 man schools. That would be an interesting question to answer.

Only 65 are allowed to dress ifor playoff games.

There are other reasons:

In the case of Mount Union there is an obvious coaching, system advantage.  Kehres is the best and he has that program rolling for two decades now.

Financial aid. Merit scholarships. Private schools may have more money to give as aid, since they have less govt restrictions then public schools.  Last time I checked... the average aid given to Mount students made Mount Union cheaper than going to Rowan.

[Jonny Utah]

Cortland isn't exactly a small school with 5000 undergrads but athletic budgets within the SUNY system are quite limited.  Personally, I think there is an advantage to be had with the roster limit.  Incoming players get more reps, have earlier opportunities.  It is hard to get that when you bring in 50+ freshmen.  To a recruit, I think that would be a positive.

Do the Morrisville, Brockport and Cortland coaches get the same pay?  Do the assistants?

[Pat Coleman]

rams

it's possible that no one is at school to update the web sites yet.

Teams can only bring 100 to camp.  Most teams have kids on like a "wait list" roster.  Some of the 100 will drop and be replaced by kids told to "stay ready".  Even during the season you'll have some "stay ready" kids replace someone on the active roster. Disciplinary reasons... kids quit, kids get injured.

The press got preliminary rosters this week from NJAC media day.  Rosters will be posted online when teams break camp.

JT, thanks for your response and now I have a better understanding. +K Now here comes the but why? Why limit the rosters of the conference to 100? pawesley says that Wesley would not join the NJAC due to the 100 roster limit. Why do some bring in more then 100 and others are limited to only 100?

Also league regulations and size of schools.  Smaller schools like, lets say cortland have terrific facilities, but not enough room for players to work out or money to pay extra coaches and JV staff.  Cortland runs the JV within its regular program with nothin added, non travelors still practice and compete in the varsity practice, compared to, say... ithaca who has a completely seperate JV squad and coaching staff, (by the way cortland still usually beats ic's JV despite that advantage).

Persoanlly I am a huge fan of the 100 man roster, it makes recruiting a crucial part of the system which is part of being a good coach, and it makes players have a chance to earn their spots and have more of team chemistry.  anyway theres my 2 cents, feel free to agree or disagree.   

GO C-STATE

Thanks for the feedback and also from everyone else. Your comment of better coaching, recruiting makes sense and the only drawback is when you get into the playoffs and play teams with 200 man rosters like Mount, Wesley etc you then have a disadvantage. It is my guess that the majority of the elite eight in playoffs are 200 man schools. That would be an interesting question to answer.

Only 65 are allowed to dress ifor playoff games.

There are other reasons:

In the case of Mount Union there is an obvious coaching, system advantage.  Kehres is the best and he has that program rolling for two decades now.

Financial aid. Merit scholarships. Private schools may have more money to give as aid, since they have less govt restrictions then public schools.  Last time I checked... the average aid given to Mount students made Mount Union cheaper than going to Rowan.

52, not 65.

And financial aid may make it cheaper in the immediate term, but I am still paying off my wife's student loans.