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[thewaterboy]

I saw this by multiple people so i'll just start a new thread. The better team did win on Saturday regarding FSU vs Wesley.  FSU held onto the ball for 40 minutes. Watching Wesley's offense, they cannot sustain drives and the rely on the big play ability. That's not how you win playoff football games. Wesley has a lot of talent at the skill positions but in now way shape or form were they better then Frostburg on saturday. The score resembles that as well as Frostburgs defense stepping up when it was needed.

Frostburg still has a long way to go in securing the Conference title. Salisbury and Montclair state both look tough but we shall see. The only hope for Wesley to win the conference is for frostburg to lose one game. (7-1 frostburg vs an 8-1 wesley). I dont see that happening but we shall see.

That game saturday was one of the best i've seen in a long time. It had everything a battle of top 10 teams should have. Big plays, steady scoring and last second heroics.

Onto the next game.

They made big plays because Frostburg's D could not keep up with Wesley's speed. Wesley's WRs were too fast. Wesley's o line struggled however IMO.

Frostburg benefited from a lack of execution from Wesley on the field. A botched snap in Frostburg territory led to a score. Wesley returner steps out at the 2 on a kickoff setting up another score. Call it what you want, but Frostburg did NOTHING to make those things happen. They just did. Self-inflicted.

Cox makes a huge mistake and throws up a jump ball to a Wesley defender that bounces off his chest as hes hit from behind and ends in a Frostburg touchdown. Bad luck if you ask me.

It was a game Wesley could have, should have won by 2 or more scores.

I've watched Wesley for 13 years. This was one that got away. When Wesley went to Brockport last year, they got beat because Brockport was better. They got beat by Del Val because Del Val was better. Im putting this game in the same category of the 2011 loss to Kean, the 2013 loss to Rowan and the 2015 loss to Salisbury.

so you discount's Frostburg's 4 other turnovers and a run game that dominated Wesley? Wesley has the inability to drive down the field and they rely on the big play to score points. It showed against SVU and now FSU. If they're not careful they'll lost to both CNU and SU with the way their defense is.

The snap, going out of bounds and even the Ruhann Peele fumble were all in key points where Wesley could have put up a gap touchdown and really started putting pressure on Frostburg. And if we really want to start discounting turnovers, the last INT should have been caught.

The run game was all Frostburg had (and Wesley's run defense is an issue). Wesley's pass D was great and Cox was constantly unable to throw the ball downfield. Frostburg's gameplan was to keep Wesley's offense off the field. They did that just long enough.

Wesley has the inablity to drive down field, and yet, they had 2 less yards than Frostburg on the day and ran 35 less plays... okay bud.

[Bobcats47]

From an outsider perspective regarding the Frostburg and Wesley game, I'll have to admit I was on the edge of my seat the entire game, I won't go into who is the better team. I do know that Wesley has and has always had tremendous athletes at receiver/tight end. However, Wesley offense has been at it's best when they had a dynamic QB and a smothering defense. I don't think the defense is that of the same caliber as the 2000s and early 2010s (can't believer I wrote that). However, Frostburg has taken a large leap the last couple year's and have went toe to toe with Wesley and had over 400 yards of total offense . Yes there were questionable calls, but Wesley controls their own destiny and have the players and coaching to put them in position to make another playoff berth. Overall, I enjoyed the game, I wish both teams could have loss (wishful thinking).

Can you not be nice to me, i have a major hatred for SU and if you're nice that may end up softening my tone towards the university.

[Pat Coleman]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

[ITH radio]

This is a little self-serving, but the FSU gets a lot of credit for helping pave the way for 290 rushing yards and helping the Bobcats control the clock with 40+ mins of TOP.

[thewaterboy]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

More alluding to the opinion that Frostburg caught a few breaks along the way.

[Teamski]

This is a little self-serving, but the FSU gets a lot of credit for helping pave the way for 290 rushing yards and helping the Bobcats control the clock with 40+ mins of TOP.

The fact that Wesley lost by one single point in spite of 5 turnovers, a PAT miss and a tipped ball TD should support the argument that Wesley was the better team on the field.

-Ski

[PA_wesleyfan]

I wonder how the NJAC League reps that were in the booth will react to the two blatant holding calls  on long runs and the out of bounds  TD overruling. Won't change the out come of this game but maybe we won't have to see this crew again. Twice in the same year is enough.

[wesleydad]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

But it was changed to a TD catch for the team that won the game by 1 point.  Closest official ruled it no catch to be talked into a catch by the back judge in the middle of the end zone.  Photo clearly shows the receiver out of bounds at time of touch and that the official was looking right at it.

[Pat Coleman]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

But it was changed to a TD catch for the team that won the game by 1 point.  Closest official ruled it no catch to be talked into a catch by the back judge in the middle of the end zone.  Photo clearly shows the receiver out of bounds at time of touch and that the official was looking right at it.

And Wesley had half of the game to recover from that, if it's in error. It wasn't the last play of the game.

[thewaterboy]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

But it was changed to a TD catch for the team that won the game by 1 point.  Closest official ruled it no catch to be talked into a catch by the back judge in the middle of the end zone.  Photo clearly shows the receiver out of bounds at time of touch and that the official was looking right at it.

And Wesley had half of the game to recover from that, if it's in error. It wasn't the last play of the game.

It was a 1 point contest. There were many plays in that game that affected the outcome. This was one of them. If that play is ruled as it should (out of bounds), you cannot possibly determine what would have happened next. It becomes 2nd and goal from the 5 with under a minute to go. Maybe they punch it in anyway, or maybe they opt for a field goal and only go into halftime up 3. To say that they had a half of a game to recover from that is a little bit simplistic in a game as close as Saturday's. Either way poor officiating on a call that should have stood as they had initially called it.

[Bobcats47]

This photo sums up quite a bit about the game.

I was going to say ... this isn't a photo of a Wesley turnover. A good 30 minutes of game transpired after this, right?

But it was changed to a TD catch for the team that won the game by 1 point.  Closest official ruled it no catch to be talked into a catch by the back judge in the middle of the end zone.  Photo clearly shows the receiver out of bounds at time of touch and that the official was looking right at it.

And Wesley had half of the game to recover from that, if it's in error. It wasn't the last play of the game.

It was a 1 point contest. There were many plays in that game that affected the outcome. This was one of them. If that play is ruled as it should (out of bounds), you cannot possibly determine what would have happened next. It becomes 2nd and goal from the 5 with under a minute to go. Maybe they punch it in anyway, or maybe they opt for a field goal and only go into halftime up 3. To say that they had a half of a game to recover from that is a little bit simplistic in a game as close as Saturday's. Either way poor officiating on a call that should have stood as they had initially called it.

I would say the most important play of the game was Wesley's last turnover. Can't win the game throwing the ball to the other team.

[Teamski]

I would say the most important play of the game was Wesley's last turnover. Can't win the game throwing the ball to the other team.

Nah, I think it was the tipped ball that resulted in the Frostburg TD in the 4th quarter that put them up 28-26.  Had that gone incomplete, it would have been a 4th and 12 at the 37 for the Bobcats.  A stop there would have continued Wesley's momentum in a big way.  Instead, it became one of those times that you feel that no matter what you do, you can't catch a break.

-Ski

[Bobcats47]

And btw that was a catch. Only one foot needed to be in and at the second he caught it, he had one food in. It was a bang bang play that was ruled correctly.

[Teamski]

And btw that was a catch. Only one foot needed to be in and at the second he caught it, he had one food in. It was a bang bang play that was ruled correctly.

No.  He had a foot that was out when he caught the ball.  Yes, you only need one foot in, however, you cannot have a foot out at the same time!  It was an incomplete pass.

-Ski

[Bobcats47]

And btw that was a catch. Only one foot needed to be in and at the second he caught it, he had one food in. It was a bang bang play that was ruled correctly.

No.  He had a foot that was out when he caught the ball.  Yes, you only need one foot in, however, you cannot have a foot out at the same time!  It was an incomplete pass.

-Ski

at the time of the catch he had one foot in and the other foot had not landed out of bounds.