FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference

[XREDDRAGON77]

 Any educated guesses as to how the Cortland/ Rowan game may go down?  I see a better than average Cortland Offense going up again a great Rowan Defense.  That could be a wash between the two.  I see a less than average Rowan Offense competing against a Cortland Defense that is better than average.  Again that may be a draw between the two.  Special teams may be the deciding factor here as Cortland loves to get great punt returns in all game.  I could see this game being played on a short field all afternoon due to special teams and stong defenses.  Cortland has a great x point /field goal kicker thus far so field goals may become a huge factor as well.  I see Cortland pulling through in a low scoring afair.        

[maxpower]

ehhhhh be careful max..........i dont think IC looks at the ECAC's with great pride.......i dont think they compete in the ECAC's either.........could be wrong though

IC doesn't always compete in the ECAC's but it's never a foregone conclusion. We hosted UMass-Dartmouth as recently as '04 in the ECAC's, and we also compete in them in other sports. It's a season-by-season decision... whether IC gets their butts kicked because of lack of interest is another story....


EDIT: Looks like it's even more than that... IC has NEVER turned down an ECAC bid. Here are the results:

1984 beat Norwich
1987 lost to Plymouth State
1996 beat Worcester State
1998 beat Hartwick
1999 lost to Union
2004 beat the winner of Massachusetts vs. Dartmouth


(That last part is a joke, based on something I may or may not have thought my sophomore year.)

[profsfball]

This is my first post. Long time prof fan seen more games than I care to remember both good and bad. Played in a few also.So I have to say a few things just not about this game but the season.
First why cannt a COLLEGE FOOTBALL team kick an extra piont?
If we can do this simple task we win. We have missed about 10 this season
JT and LB92 you are right about the offense were are the adjustments everyone is putting seven or eight in the box and saying you will not run the ball. Your recievers are not good enough to get open. We dont have that deep threat right now.
The play calling is very predictable Montclair was calling out what plays were coming during the game. Do we have more than the same 10 plays.

Nothing can be said about the defense they are outstanding but you cannt keep putting them out there eventually the are going to give up a couple of plays.

Finally the last 3 mins. of the game run the ball and the game is over at best montclair has to go 70 yds in 30 seconds to get in field goal range.
I will stop my ranting now.WE control our own destiny win two games and we go on. I think It will be a hell of a game Sat.
It turns my stomach to say it but congrats to Montclair the final score is all that matters.

[JT]

JT and LB92 you are right about the offense were are the adjustments everyone is putting seven or eight in the box and saying you will not run the ball. Your recievers are not good enough to get open. We dont have that deep threat right now.
The play calling is very predictable Montclair was calling out what plays were coming during the game. Do we have more than the same 10 plays.

Not sure if Orihel audibles a lot, if it all.  That might help.  If the defense is reading one play audible to one that hits a defensive formation's weakness.

[Jonny Utah]

ehhhhh be careful max..........i dont think IC looks at the ECAC's with great pride.......i dont think they compete in the ECAC's either.........could be wrong though

IC doesn't always compete in the ECAC's but it's never a foregone conclusion. We hosted UMass-Dartmouth as recently as '04 in the ECAC's, and we also compete in them in other sports. It's a season-by-season decision... whether IC gets their butts kicked because of lack of interest is another story....


EDIT: Looks like it's even more than that... IC has NEVER turned down an ECAC bid. Here are the results:

1984 beat Norwich
1987 lost to Plymouth State
1996 beat Worcester State
1998 beat Hartwick
1999 lost to Union
2004 beat the winner of Massachusetts vs. Dartmouth


(That last part is a joke, based on something I may or may not have thought my sophomore year.)

Im 90 percent sure that Ithaca has turned down a football ECAC bid at least once.  I think it had more to do with injuries and team discipline though....

[maxpower]

ehhhhh be careful max..........i dont think IC looks at the ECAC's with great pride.......i dont think they compete in the ECAC's either.........could be wrong though

IC doesn't always compete in the ECAC's but it's never a foregone conclusion. We hosted UMass-Dartmouth as recently as '04 in the ECAC's, and we also compete in them in other sports. It's a season-by-season decision... whether IC gets their butts kicked because of lack of interest is another story....


EDIT: Looks like it's even more than that... IC has NEVER turned down an ECAC bid. Here are the results:

1984 beat Norwich
1987 lost to Plymouth State
1996 beat Worcester State
1998 beat Hartwick
1999 lost to Union
2004 beat the winner of Massachusetts vs. Dartmouth


(That last part is a joke, based on something I may or may not have thought my sophomore year.)

Im 90 percent sure that Ithaca has turned down a football ECAC bid at least once.  I think it had more to do with injuries and team discipline though....

I don't think so JPU... anything more specific I can check on?

[RU Fan]

Once again, the play calling against Montclair was .... well, you insert your own word here ...... I'm tired of saying horrendous!

How many WR screens can you run for no gain?  How many WR sweeps can you run for no/or short gain .....worse yet followed up every time by the WR sweep fake, inside handoff again for no/or short gain?  You can't expect the QB to produce when he's in 3rd and long each possession with an O line that isn't protecting him!  Do the RU coaches think that the opponent doesn't watch film?

How about the fake field goal attempt, or not running the clock out .... and then in overtime, the WR sweep pass attempt?  Also, when kickers do absolutely nothing in practice but kick ..... how hard is it to kick an extra point?  Make both extra points and the Profs go home a winner!

I'm also amazed at how the defense allowed the sub-par Montclair offense to do as well as they did.  I'm sure that they will have a re-newed fire this week against Cortland feeling that they have something to prove after last week.

Refereeing Crew should be fired .... or at least read the rule book! I don't care what any Montclair fan says, I was right there also and the Jump sack and fumble ... was absolutely a fumble.  Refs took the TD away.  Also, the late hit on 3rd down on the WR that gave Montclair a 1st down eventually leading to a TD was really, really borderline.  I'm also pretty sure that "holding" is an infraction!

Bottom line is, the Prof offense, due mainly to horrendous play calling, just didn't get it done.  Montclair did.  Congrats to Montclair.

However, I don't think the dragons will get a very warm welcome from the Profs this week.  Too much to prove in Profland.

[bombsaway]

I just got online for the first time since friday, how'd Rowan, the best team in the east, the school that dominates, the best team in the last decade, do this weekend?

[Jonny Utah]

ehhhhh be careful max..........i dont think IC looks at the ECAC's with great pride.......i dont think they compete in the ECAC's either.........could be wrong though

IC doesn't always compete in the ECAC's but it's never a foregone conclusion. We hosted UMass-Dartmouth as recently as '04 in the ECAC's, and we also compete in them in other sports. It's a season-by-season decision... whether IC gets their butts kicked because of lack of interest is another story....


EDIT: Looks like it's even more than that... IC has NEVER turned down an ECAC bid. Here are the results:

1984 beat Norwich
1987 lost to Plymouth State
1996 beat Worcester State
1998 beat Hartwick
1999 lost to Union
2004 beat the winner of Massachusetts vs. Dartmouth


(That last part is a joke, based on something I may or may not have thought my sophomore year.)

Im 90 percent sure that Ithaca has turned down a football ECAC bid at least once.  I think it had more to do with injuries and team discipline though....

I don't think so JPU... anything more specific I can check on?

No nothing specific but I remember this discussion surfaced last year and I believe there was a year around 2000-2003 where Ithaca did not put itself up for an ECAC bid for some reason.  It was talked about on here though (on the MAC board actually) at the end of last season.

[xdragon58]

i think this weekends Cortland rowan game will be one of the biggest games of the year for east region football......Will a Cortland Win knock rowan out of the playoffs? if so, when is the last time rowan didnt make it?

[Dr. xGSC]

xdragon

2003 was the last year RU did not make the playoffs. A loss this weekend will also eliminate them from the NCAA playoffs. I think it will be a battle in the boro this week but as an RU fan, I believe our chances are slim after the season we are having, unless some serious prep and coaching is done for and during the game.

[JT]

Refereeing Crew should be fired .... or at least read the rule book! I don't care what any Montclair fan says, I was right there also and the Jump sack and fumble ... was absolutely a fumble.  Refs took the TD away. 

Unfortunately since none of the refs were actually looking at the QB when he was sacked, they didn't see the actual sack and fumble.  It kinda of boggles the mind.  You have two guys over two hundred pounds each bearing down on the quarterback and not one of the refs is protecting the QB.  The refs actually missed the entire play. What if the Montclair QB was hit late, hi/lowed, and was injured?

It's actually not a rule book issue.  It's a matter of proper machanics.  The ref is supposed to watch QB until the play is over.  If the QB rolls, the referee rolls with him etc.  His job is to line up behind the QB, opposite his throwing arm, and stay behind the QB until the play is over. Instead of watching the QB, he was watching the oline because he threw a flag for chop block.  Then you could see the shock on his face (when he finally looked back at the QB) as Rowan grabbed the ball and ran it in the endzone.

This is one of the basics of all basics in football officiating 101.  If I didn't actually see it, I wouldn't have believed it.  Pop warner officials don't make this kind of mistake.  And when the ref was asked why he didn't see the sack and fumble, he told Coach Accorsi, "I wasn't paying attention."

Talk about being flabbergasted.  Another Rowan coach said into his headset,"Of the top 100 BS excuses for missing a call, this has to be number 100."

[Dr. xGSC]

Someone on the RU staff needs to lose the Andy Reid playbook and clock management instructions.  They need to get back to the basics and move this team in the right direction.

[JQV]

Refereeing Crew should be fired .... or at least read the rule book! I don't care what any Montclair fan says, I was right there also and the Jump sack and fumble ... was absolutely a fumble.  Refs took the TD away. 

Unfortunately since none of the refs were actually looking at the QB when he was sacked, they didn't see the actual sack and fumble.  It kinda of boggles the mind.  You have two guys over two hundred pounds each bearing down on the quarterback and not one of the refs is protecting the QB.  The refs actually missed the entire play. What if the Montclair QB was hit late, hi/lowed, and was injured?

It's actually not a rule book issue.  It's a matter of proper machanics.  The ref is supposed to watch QB until the play is over.  If the QB rolls, the referee rolls with him etc.  His job is to line up behind the QB, opposite his throwing arm, and stay behind the QB until the play is over. Instead of watching the QB, he was watching the oline because he threw a flag for chop block.  Then you could see the shock on his face (when he finally looked back at the QB) as Rowan grabbed the ball and ran it in the endzone.

This is one of the basics of all basics in football officiating 101.  If I didn't actually see it, I wouldn't have believed it.  Pop warner officials don't make this kind of mistake.  And when the ref was asked why he didn't see the sack and fumble, he told Coach Accorsi, "I wasn't paying attention."

Talk about being flabbergasted.  Another Rowan coach said into his headset,"Of the top 100 BS excuses for missing a call, this has to be number 100."

Aww poor wittle babies didn't like the refs answer?

[rowanlb92]

but as an RU fan, I believe our chances are slim after the season we are having, unless some serious prep and coaching is done for and during the game.

Dr.X,
I couldn't agree with you more.  Our beloved profs have been flirting with disaster all year long.  I believe the coaches handed Montclair this victory.  Because of that, I have decided not to come down to the Boro this weekend!  It's tough to support your team when you have that happen.  I'll be at some games if for some reason they build on the loss this weekend and roll the next two into the playoff race.  I do not think it will happen!

What a waiste of tallent at the Boro this year.