MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Guessing the capacity is off, then.

[ecreddevils]

hopefan, you getting paid by the click or what?  keep posting--read and appreciate all your stuff.

just another saturday in the sliac...gotta love it.

huge win for EC over webster, tankins or not, EC showed how good they can be.  thomas and bennington were two best players on the floor, sharing the basketball; bennington's high flying antics resulting in made shots this time.  extremely entertaining.

greenville--200 pts.!!  my opinion: love it. the system is innovative in a game that's been around since the late 19th century.  innovation almost always breeds contempt.  if the name of your game is full throttle for 40 minutes and score points, then by all means SCORE POINTS.

i'm actually surprised that a high-major team hasn't adopted the system in its pure form. Offensive tempo and space in today's basketball at the highest level certainly owes a debt to paul westhead and in some sense to grinnell's system.  golden state and houston are both products of tempo and 3 point analytics.

a good analog is football.  understand that mike leach and hal mumme developed air raid (at current SLIAC) school iowa wesleyan.  the air raid was an innovation in the sense that it borrowed from older offensive philosophies but introduced tempo and space.  leach carried the air raid forward into the higher ranks of the D-1 game, where its concepts are now ubiquitous.  don't believe it?  watch the rams today or read the news that patrick mahomes (texas tech air raider) is the mvp of the nfl.

the system is a different way of viewing tempo space compared to "traditional" forms of basketball.  i, for one, appreciate the vision, and enjoy the show.  keep pushing envelope, dr. barber.  210? 220?  let's find out.

[Gregory Sager]

I shouldn't let my distaste for what Greenville did yesterday mask several SUPER games by individuals..
Johari Dix gets 28 points, 9 assists, 5 steals
Eric Williams gets 38 points, 15 rebounds
Marvin Bateman gets 37 points, 9 rebounds...     note that's over 100 points from just a combined 3 man effort

The Greenville line that most impressed me was Barry Nixon's: 16 pts, 10 rebs, 5 stls, and a 5:1 a:to ratio.

One final thought... for Greenville to do this is, well, unexplainable... I don't understand it from the coach's mind set...
BUT
For Fontbonne to allow this to happen.... is ridiculous.....

I was thinking yesterday that I would dearly love to read what our old friend Denny would've had to say about that ending.

[hopefan]

I shouldn't let my distaste for what Greenville did yesterday mask several SUPER games by individuals..
Johari Dix gets 28 points, 9 assists, 5 steals
Eric Williams gets 38 points, 15 rebounds
Marvin Bateman gets 37 points, 9 rebounds...     note that's over 100 points from just a combined 3 man effort

The Greenville line that most impressed me was Barry Nixon's: 16 pts, 10 rebs, 5 stls, and a 5:1 a:to ratio.

One final thought... for Greenville to do this is, well, unexplainable... I don't understand it from the coach's mind set...
BUT
For Fontbonne to allow this to happen.... is ridiculous.....

I was thinking yesterday that I would dearly love to read what our old friend Denny would've had to say about that ending.

Absolutely... you and me both.....

[hopefan]

Wondering what the status of Webster's Enrique Tankins is?    Saturday's performance shows he is missed badly.....

[WUPHF]

Tankins asked to come out of the game on Wednesday, at least once and maybe twice, and looked gassed on the sidelines.  Hopefully it is just a cold or something.

[GU1999]

Hopefan:  u are great and I really appreciate all of your work on this board, but pushing for 200 over icing the game at 196 or 198 shouldn't be all that controversial.  I know you are tinkering with the idea of being more controversial to drive interactions, but meh on this particular effort. 

I have seen George pull the dogs off in a few games this season, namly the Dominican and North Park games.   The Dominican game it was only in the last few possessions, while the North Park game it was the last four or four minutes. 

I strongly suggest the positives of hitting 200 outweigh any marginally hurt feelings by Fontbonne.  A two minute spot on SportsCenter that ran last night and this AM.  Thousands of social mentions.  Recruits in the building from big STL HSs jumping up and down with cameras out.  And the mood in the gym looked electric. 

As for FU, If Denny or Lee were still around, I'm guessing they would have been upset at GU, but it would have only been as a front for their own embarrassment with their teams performance.  And then after the game Lee and his team would have met the GU team in the middle of the floor and shared a prayer together as was the custom after games between the two teams, even after hotly contested conference championship games where GU beat FU by 1 pt, with a series of highly controversial calls at the end of regulation.

All is good in the SLIAC, in fact I would proffer it's better today than yesterday. 

Lastly,  Go Rams...  Now thats my attempt at being controversial. 

[GU1999]

Guessing the capacity is off, then.

This may be true, but I am always surprised at the low attendance figure reported by the scorekeeper for GU games.  Often it's a plug number of 300. 

[GU1999]

I shouldn't let my distaste for what Greenville did yesterday mask several SUPER games by individuals..
Johari Dix gets 28 points, 9 assists, 5 steals
Eric Williams gets 38 points, 15 rebounds
Marvin Bateman gets 37 points, 9 rebounds...   
Bateman is 17 of 28 from 3 in the last two games.  🔥🔥🔥

note that's over 100 points from just a combined 3 man effort

The Greenville line that most impressed me was Barry Nixon's: 16 pts, 10 rebs, 5 stls, and a 5:1 a:to ratio.

One final thought... for Greenville to do this is, well, unexplainable... I don't understand it from the coach's mind set...
BUT
For Fontbonne to allow this to happen.... is ridiculous.....

I was thinking yesterday that I would dearly love to read what our old friend Denny would've had to say about that ending.

[y_jack_lok]

i'm actually surprised that a high-major team hasn't adopted the system in its pure form.

I've wondered about that. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the system works best with a larger roster and D1 schools have a limit on the number of scholarships they can offer.

[WUPHF]

And then after the game Lee and his team would have met the GU team in the middle of the floor and shared a prayer together as was the custom after games between the two teams, even after hotly contested conference championship games where GU beat FU by 1 pt, with a series of highly controversial calls at the end of regulation.

Hard to know how much this point matters to you, but certainly no coach or program should be faulted for choosing not to participate in a prayer or any other religious practice as part of an otherwise secular relationship between the teams.

[Gregory Sager]

From what Denny used to post here, I know that Lee McKinney embraced and endorsed it.

[WUPHF]

From what Denny used to post here, I know that Lee McKinney embraced and endorsed it.

But no one should fault the new coach or any other coach who chooses not to embrace it.  That was my point.

[hopefan]

GU.  Certainly did not express the opinion regarding the intentional fouls t simply be controversial. I brought it out because I feel it was wrong.

However, the reason Greenville got to that point is 100% Fontbonnes fault. Trying to run and shoot with Greenville was an open invitation to disaster.

[hopefan]

Tankins asked to come out of the game on Wednesday, at least once and maybe twice, and looked gassed on the sidelines.  Hopefully it is just a cold or something.

Good to hear.  Hopefully back Wednesday.