MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[pantherpride06]

Wow, tons of great post since I have been on.  Just have to throw this out... if you did not catch the IND/NE game, you missed a great game and my Colts are finally headed to the super bowl!!!

AS for the picks... here's how mine mine up...

Week #10

Tuesday, January 23  
Eureka
 
Wednesday, January 24  
Fontbonne
Greenville
Blackburn
 
Thursday, January 25  
Maryville
 
Saturday, January 27  
Maryville
Greenville
Webster
Westminster
Eureka

As for hosting site:::

Men, I promise if GC host, I will do my best to make sure HJ Long & Greenville host a superb SLIAC Championship.  I will be sure to get us a great pre-game meal place.  I will have HJ long a toasty 78* and have the ORANGE CRUSH there in high effect.  No matter who host it, I'd just like to get in.  Coach Barber deserves a big year.  He's gone though some things and needs to get a good season under his belt. I trip to the SLIAC tournament would be big for him and out program.  We'll see what happens!

[the godfather]

fu has 5

[fcnews]

Yes sir, 5 out of 10. With GC at home along with Prin., LCC, BC, and MU. IF FU can play their game these are 5 chances to get to 10 wins. But, four out five would do, if need be.

[fcnews]

Looking at the remaining schedule. Their are three teams that are must wins. BC can change this. But, that being said, Prin.,LCC, BC., are all must wins for the conference CHAMP. Here's how "The Road to Somewhere" lays out. We all agree that those three schools at home can beat anyone on their nite. And it will happen.

Mac - 2 (@ Prin @ BC)
GC -2 (@ Prin @ LCC)
WU -1 (@ Prin)
EC -1 (@ BC)
FU -0

I didn't count any loss at MU as a bad loss. You just can't. I will say it again that BC can change this out look. But, I'm suggesting from the present. Prin. host four of the six. We all know this is a place where a win is a win. Strange results have come out of Elsha ,IL. and FU knows. I beleive Principia will steal one of those four games. Just a hunch.

Take your favorite team and figure your "Road to Somewhere".

I have my favorite having to win 2 of these 4 games. @WC, @MAC, @EC and @WU. Win the ones your supposed to and split on the road. It's in black and white for FU. Coach McKinney has had his road map planned since Christmas. That's why FU practiced everyday in Florida. And, I don't mean shoot arounds. Two hour hard work outs. The FU kids did not have to worry about getting a break. We are right on track for his road map. Win 5 of the first six.

[the godfather]

may the best teams win!!     was i right about the way it was done at BC for the tourney last year Hope or anyone else?

[fcnews]

Just noticed that Rose Hulman who beat FU 80-78 (on a GW shot in the last 29 seconds) in Indiana, had two nice wins last week. Beating both Manchester and Hanover.

[Gregory Sager]

For Mr. Sager - Conference tourney revenues are 100% turned to the conference to cover the expenses of the tournament. You $405 a game just in officials.

Thanks for looking that up for me, FCnews. I know that the CCIW tourney host turns the gate over to the league, and I was wondering if it was typical for conferences to do that. This will only be our second year of holding a conference tourney, so it's a whole new animal for those of us who follow that league.

[sully309]

fcnews, you left out Eureka's game @ Prin Tuesday. (By the way...will anyone be joining me at this game...it is (by default) the Game Of The Night...) I also don't understand how you can lump Blackburn in with Prin and LCC. Last time I checked, BC was 4-4 and Maryville was 2-5. I believe two people on this board recently picked MU to make the final 4. Both teams have played at Eureka and EC won both by about the same margin. To me, Blackburn is the scarier sqad to play if I had to choose. Both are far from an easy win, don't get me wrong, but if you are going to dismiss Blackburn (something I would advise against doing), why wouldn't you dismiss Maryville as well? Maybe there's a STL bias on this board  ...

..along those lines, I'm glad the tourney isn't in the Lou every year. Nothing against the city, but it would hardly a neutral site when Eureka could be driving over 3 hours to the game and oter teams may only be traveling cross town. The Valley tourney in St. Louis is a little different since there are no Valley teams in St. Louis. Yes, there are D1 conferences that allow the 1st place team to host. I may be missing some, but the Big Sky, Southland, Northeast, Patriot, Big South, and Horizon conferences all had higher seeds hosting their title games last season.

As for my final 4 prediction, I'm sticking with what I posted several weeks ago, but if the Panthers win at Westminster like I think they will, I will have to change. For those that don't want to look it up, I picked Westminster, Mac, Eureka and Webster.

[Gregory Sager]

..along those lines, I'm glad the tourney isn't in the Lou every year. Nothing against the city, but it would hardly a neutral site when Eureka could be driving over 3 hours to the game and oter teams may only be traveling cross town. The Valley tourney in St. Louis is a little different since there are no Valley teams in St. Louis. Yes, there are D1 conferences that allow the 1st place team to host. I may be missing some, but the Big Sky, Southland, Northeast, Patriot, Big South, and Horizon conferences all had higher seeds hosting their title games last season.

It's also the norm in D3 for #1 seeds to host the entire conference tournament, or at least the latter rounds of it with the preliminary round's games being held at the higher seeds. Off of the top of my head, I can't think of any D3 conference aside from the SUNYAC that holds a neutral-site tournament. Part of the reason is to make the regular season actually worth something by rewarding the team that won the title with the right to host, but for most conferences I suspect the biggest reason is cost. Here in bare-bones D3, not too many conferences can afford to rent a big arena for their tourneys.

Also, with regard to the discussion about redshirts, it should be noted for those of you who are unaware of it that D3 changed the rules two years ago and now outlaws traditional-type redshirts (i.e., a player practices with the team during the season without losing a year of eligibility). Medical redshirts are, of course, still legal, provided the school provides the NCAA with medical documentation to prove the injury and an NCAA committee appointed for this purpose approves the medical waiver.

[fcnews]

Nicely stated Sager

[fcnews]

EC_SID - I did not dismiss BC. Re read the post. I said for the sake of discussion and that it could change in a hurry. I still don't see BC squad gelling under the new coach just yet. A few wins and publicly change my mind. As for MU, I didn't include them with bad losses because I can not truly give any team a win at MU. Your new and don't realize what a tough place to win.

I was isolating the teams with 3 losses are less.

[Pat Coleman]

You don't see the term red shirt freshmen at the D3 level (maybe WIAC).

Not at all, since the process was outlawed in D-III more than two years ago.

[Pat Coleman]

It's also the norm in D3 for #1 seeds to host the entire conference tournament, or at least the latter rounds of it with the preliminary round's games being held at the higher seeds. Off of the top of my head, I can't think of any D3 conference aside from the SUNYAC that holds a neutral-site tournament.

The USA South also goes neutral site, though it rotates among conference schools.

[Ralph Turner]

... Off of the top of my head, I can't think of any D3 conference aside from the SUNYAC that holds a neutral-site tournament. ..

The SCAC holds it tourney at a pre-determined site, (this year both men and women are in Memphis again), and the GSAC, at Lagrange for both.

[Pat Coleman]

And the ODAC. So basically the entire South.