MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hopefan]

ok  -  been working on all conference  -  because the league had a pretty strong cutoff between upper four and lower four teams, I looked at not only league stats, but "critical game " stats, meaning performance vs the top 4 teams (Maryville, Webster, Blackburn, and Westminster)  -  this eliminated a run up of stats vs the lower 4 teams in league.

Hopefan's ALL SLIAC  :
1st Team

Zak Allan, Blackburn  Only player whose stats were tremendously better in "critical games" than overall

Ryan Eberhart  MAC  Leading Rebounder, top 5 scorer

Zeb Hammond  Blackburn  Stats dropped a bit in critical games, but still only one of two players (the other was Regan of MU) to hit double figures in all "critical games"

Darrin Hoggatt  Webster  Scored and rebounded consistently

Ben Hebl  Maryville  This was a tossup between Corey Kuhn and Hebl -  Hebl scored more in all games, Kuhn scored more in critical games.  Turning point was a large number of turnovers in critical games by Kuhn


2nd team
Corey Kuhn Webster  -  see above

Steve Bash Maryville  - despite reduced minutes and obvious less power with a bad knee, Bash still averaged over 10 points and 7.6 rebounds per critical game.

Justin Storandt Fontbonne  Though rebounds fell off in critical games, scoring stayed consistent at 12 per game

Matt Regan Maryville  as mentioned, one of two to have double figures in all critical games

Scott Spinner  Webster  Inconsistant Scoring, but strong assists and assist to turnover.

3rd team

Robert Davis Westminster   Had single SLIAC game of the year vs Maryville  -  Scored pretty consistant 11/game otherwise  -  weak rebounding stats

Luka Djedovich  Blackburn  Rebounded well, but shot only 26% in critical games

Bryson Taylor Greenville  Did a little of everything

Tim Elwell  Maryville  Scoring is not always a part of the job  -  led everyone in assistst per critical game, 2nd behind Allan in assists to turnover ratio in critical games.

5th spot is tough  I'll give it to Patrick McCoy of Fontbonne though his scoring fell off in critical games and he had a huge amount of turnovers.

AND the MVP  -  and I KNOW no one will agree with this  - Ryan Eberhart  Mac  -  in a league where few players stood out on a consistant basis, this kid played so hard in can't win games that Mac actually challenged for a tourney spot.

[fcnews]

Hope any comment on my All Conference post? Be carefull tonite and good luck.

[hopefan]

FC  I have Bash and Elwell, you have Buxton and Turner.

FC  You kinda took the easy way out not naming a 1st, 2nd 3rd team, or MVP...   How about it?

And where are the crazy's today ?  in class?  taking a nap prepping for tonite?   Looking forward to seeing you all.

Blackburn SID   just post the score for people in the postings  -  it will take 15 seconds.  Tho it would be nice to formally enter the scores so they appear on the D3hoops scoreboard.

[dynasty22]

Sorry Hopefan, I've had classes and work allday although it has been very hard to stay focused with all the anticipiation going into tonights game.
Me and Ganno are about to go post some "Welcoming" signs around the entrances of the campus.
See ya tonight.

[Beaver_SID]

Hopefan,

How do I post it on the scoreboard? -sry kinda new to the d3hoops thing-

All scores will be posted after the game.

The Crazies and I are all working on preparing the campus as well as our daily requirment of Illinois state education. most of the guys either work in athletics or campus maintainence and there is a lot do for student workers on 2 days notice of hosting.

[hopefan]

Blackburn SID

Go to front page, down right hand side, hit feedback under contact us section, go down feedback page and it has a report game scores section   --only SIDs and Coaches can do it  -  see Coach Dave, he may be able to help you.

D3Hoops is THE source for D3 scores, -try to get them in...many people are interested.

and as I said, if you just do a quick posting right here on post ups, that gets it out to some people too.

[mubballfan]

Dynasty22 - I'm not condoning what a fellow student from here was calling the student in your fan section, however, under any circumstances you never go into another school's student section especially when you're outnumbered like you were. The incident did not have to be taken from the verbal level to the physical level that it was taken to. You have nothing to prove when you're outmanned the way you guys were. It was just asking for trouble.

However on the other hand you (and us as well) have just made the rivalry that much more bitter, and hopefully both of our schools' basketball program can keep playing at the level we did this year and keep this rivalry going. I come from a High School in Illinois that has the 4th winningest program in the nation, and a great tradition of basketball with many state championships and even a national champonship. So naturally when people came to our gym it was a big game for them. So when I came here I thought that the level of talent and excitement I would see would be greatly reduced. On one hand the talent has gone down a bit. When I was in high school we played Shaun Livingston, Andre Iguadola, Darius Miles, Sean Dockery, and so on. Of course no players of that level are going to be showcased in the SLIAC, but most of the excitement is still here. We had our bitter rivals in high school and often had altercations after the games. One game in regionals even went as far as having cops show up at a local McDonalds because of an altercation. These are the games we feel the most. When we beat that rival we feel great and when we lose we feel sick to our stomach. That truly is what is great about rivalries.

One thing I noticed that Dynasty did not address is the spitting incident. Maybe you personally can take the moral high ground and say you had nothing to do with it, but your players, even just one of them, represents your school so much more than all of your fans combined. And when something that disrespectful happens, don't play the card of how your school is all hard working, small town, blue collared, morally just, honest people, and tell us that our school is a bunch of city kids who have no morals and have never had to work a single day in their life. I've had a job consistently since I was 14, that doesn't sound to me like someone who's had mommy and daddy pay their way through life.

Again thanks for your time! 

[dynasty22]

Mubballfan - It's in the past, and I will forget about it.
We both had done wrong things and I think everyone has come to realize how no one was in the clear.
I apologise but I shouldn't be the only one, I'll leave it at that.
Good luck and have fun, as well as I.
-Dynasty

[Beaver_SID]

Maryville def. Webster  72-64
West Minster def Blackburn 84-59

[Beaver_SID]

I couldnt get a post on the scoreboard, so the last post will have to do.

Congrts to Maryville,
They played a great game and held off a rallying Webster team!!! Cant wait to see you guys on saturday.

Congrats to West Minster,
They dominated under the boards, from the floor, and just all around. My vote for Tourny MVP goes to Robert Davis just off tonights performance, he shot almost 70% from the floor and put up 30 points on BC. BC didnt show up tonight, and as sad as I am to say it West Minster just had nothing to lose and everything to gain, and BC looked as though they thought it wouldnt be a contest at all. Our boys shot terrible and couldnt protect the baseline.

Good Luck in the Championship game both teams, and for my Beavers lets reload and and make a run for it again next year!

Go Beavers!

[WebsterWatcher]

Correction: Webster lost by 82-76

Maryville outplayed the webster bunch tonight, they won the war on the boards and had balanced scoring, at least 4 in double digits.  2 webster freshmen playin tough tonight, Turk and Stiegmeirer, Thats looks promising for next year.


I think Hopefans pick are fairly decent, Although i only saw him play a few times, Hebl could be my pick for POY, or maybe Hammond. Both of them played extremely well the games i saw. That kid from Mac plays hard, but... POY might be over stepping his bounds. His stats are artificially high due to the style of play. So i think some of his stats are a bit inflated. Hebl  played well against webster all 3 times, hits big shots in big times, decent defender. He's my POY.

[fcnews]

Boy this board got quiet. Now MU and WC have to travel to Carlinville to play for the Championship? Makes no sense. Should go to the highest remaing seed.

I want to make one point concerning previous conversation. Don't mistake FU athletics as being just a bunch of suburbanites. On the mens BBall team you have Salem, Licking, Herman, Wext Frankfort, Il., Winfield, Steelville, Mascoutha, Il. , Edwardsville, IL. not basic bunch of County kids. One kid from Laffeyette and on from Kennedy, that's our only to suburban Kids.

Hope my POY would be Hammond. I'll put sellections up tommorrow.

[dynasty22]

Congrats to all the teams tonight, win or lose, you left it on the court. Keep your heads up boys, and to all Seniors, thanks for a great season and I know your school is very proud of you.

Good luck to Maryville and West-Minister, may the best team represent the SLIAC in the D-3 tournament.

Best Wishes,

   -Dynasty

P.S. - That was a nice lookin shirt tonight, Hopefan, sorry we couldn't pull it out.

[SaintsBall]

Any predictions for the championship game on saturday? Being a maryville fan, i'm gonna go with MU-76, Westminster-62

[Mac Attack]

"That kid from Mac plays hard, but... POY might be over stepping his bounds. His stats are artificially high due to the style of play. "

FYI - Mac changed its "style of play about 10 games into the season. And for what it's worth, when Mac was using the "system," Eberhart played less than 15 minutes a game - far less than many of the players on other teams who were putting up pretty good numbers. Once the five in, five out system was flushed, and the Highlanders went back to a more traditional style of play, their performance (and record) dramatically improved. I saw every player in the league, and didn't see a player who contributed at both ends of the floor - from start to finish - as well as Eberhart did. Points, rebounds, defense, effort, attitude, and substantial minutes night in, night out. There are a number of deserving candidates for POY - but I think going on stats alone and looking closely at the complete performance of a player over the entire season, Eberhart would be the player who would rise to the top of the list.