MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Into_the_Blue]

I think Knight Slappy slappied my karma...haha

slap away

[Into_the_Blue]

Heres some food for thought:

If you're constantly judging someone enough to reward them with karma or penalize them with negative karma, arent you probably incurring negative karma upon yourself?



With my negative karma I am really starting to feel uneasy about my incarnation in my next life...

[Into_the_Blue]

And now for all my posts about karma I feel that I should be giving myself less karma because I have driven the subject from basketball.....yet I cannot enforce my judgment upon my own karma.  Sik

[Into_the_Blue]

Considering the whole Landon Kurz PED scandal  , I'm suprised that there is even a Frostbite to post. If he did post how much creditability could you give it.

The whole regional ranking thing. The SLIAC champs will be a 16 seed untilfurther notice. Webster was regionally ranked and maybe could of got a little break in the draw, the year they went undefeated through the SLIAC. But, they lost their first round conference tourney game. So I guess we'll never know.

Westminster may have achance to travel south or north to Iowa. Mac and EC would both be in a position to be placed several places. Webster will probably be sent down Big Bend. In any case, our chances for a first rd. win don't look any better this year.

Just my HO.

Who do you think WC would play...both north and south

[hopefan]

+1  .....    Back to 0 Blue  you're Nothing

[Gregory Sager]

Not sure of the split, but a large portion of Coach Mac's wins were NAIA  - he does not have 800 D3 wins...

The NCAA record book does count all wins coached at the four-year intercollegiate level, including those won while helming a program that had a different national affiliation (NAIA, NCCAA, or USCAA). The criterion for inclusion in the D3 coaches category of the record book is that a coach must've spent a minimum of ten years as the head coach of a D3 program in order to be listed.

Weren't some of Coach McKinney's coaching wins achieved at the high-school level? Those wins are not included in the NCAA record book. It only counts wins achieved at four-year institutions of higher learning.

Here's the NCAA coaching record book. The all-time wins list for coaches who put in a minimum of ten years at the D3 level as a head coach is found on page 164. Coach McKinney is 22nd on the list, with 504 wins in 31 years (Missouri Baptist, 1979-88, and Fontbonne, 1989-2009).

[WUPHF]

you know, I haven't been formally monitoring, but the SLIAC room has been getting a lot of traffic the last month....   I quite often see 5, 6, 7, 8 guests and 3 or 4 registereds in the room  -  I'd say a big increase from years gone by.....   THE WORD is spreading!!!!

My day is not complete without at least one glance at the SLIAC board.  And, about once a week I look at the SLIAC schedule to go to a game...but never make it because my wife limits my game attendance. 

[furbug]

Whereas I understand that the conversation on this site revolves mostly around recent game action and player performance, I do recall that there was a discussion last year on the relative financial endowments of the various SLIAC institutions, with Principia being way out in front. It may be of interest to some of you that, for the academic year ending June 30, 2009, the 28% reduction in endowments at Principia was the 15th largest decline in the nation. Principia's endowment decreased from $735 million for the academic year ending June 30, 2008 to $529 this past year.

[ec_fan14]

yes Blue the team to foul is in the bonus...

Principia was the 15th largest decline in the nation. Principia's endowment decreased from $735 million for the academic year ending June 30, 2008 to $529 this past year.

I'm sure any SLIAC school would still love $529 million 

[I_HAD_GAME]

Thanks GS for the info. Yes I knew he had a HS career also. That's why I said career wins. As oppose to college wins, since he was honored in the Milestone section of D3Hoops.

Some big games tomorrow nite. It will either enlighten or confuse the tourney picture.

Does anyone know if a SLIAC team has gone undefeated in conference and won the tournament? I remember Webster's perfect season 3 years ago and the tourney upset. I don't recall the last team to do it before Webster.

I don't think Fontbonne is capable of derailing Westminster.

[Into_the_Blue]

Teams that have ran the SLIAC table and won the conference tourney

1990-91 Blackburn
1992-93 MacMurray

Fontbonne also ran the regular season in 94-95 but Westminster (4 seed) won the tourney.



EC if it were up to me I probably would choose not to foul but it would all depend on the game and our season.  If we'd recently lost one or had a team tie one against us with a buzzer beater id probably think about fouling (but what are the chances you lose like that twice in that perioid of time?).  But if someone was hot all game I wouldnt give him a chance to shoot a 3. 

Also Id have to be able to trust my guys to make the right foul and not get someone in the act of shooting.  Nothing would be worse than giving a good player three free throws to tie you....

[Into_the_Blue]

Some big games tomorrow nite. It will either enlighten or confuse the tourney picture.

Greenville @  Webster     
Westminster (Mo.) @   Fontbonne     
Blackburn @ Eureka 

"Confused" scenario
WC loses, Webster loses, Eureka loses

WC 10-1
Mac 8-3
Eureka 6-5
GC 6-5
Webster 6-5
FU 4-7

"enlightened" scenario
WC wins, Webster wins, Eureka wins
WC 11-0
Mac 8-3
Eureka 7-4
Webster 7-4
GC 5-6
FU 3-8

WC can virtually knock Fontbonne out of having any chance left, Eureka needs this win and probably wants Greenville to pull one off too; I could easily see EC and WU both 7-4 before they meet Saturday. 

[hopefan]

in a last 5 second deal, down 3, I don't know that I've ever seen a team make a free throw, miss the second, rebound, and score.....   it all makes sense, but it's hard as heck to pull off.....

As blue says, just don't foul in the act of shooting.....

Regarding scenarios, start to keep in mind tiebreakers....

head to head first....  consequently the Webster Greenville game is critical as Greenville won the first

next is how tied teams do throughout the standings...  if no one beats westmin, and Mac comes in 2nd alone, who has beaten Mac if everyone else finishes tied...   the answer, both Greenville and eureka have beaten Mac, with a second game to come...  Webster on the other hand, lost to Mac twice, so would clearly lose out on that potential tiebreaker..... It would also hurt if they somehow finish tied with Mac...

[hopefan]

I talked earlier about the geographic region setup ... found it.....  it may be of interest   -  if two schools are in the same geographic region, it's a regional game.


Following are the geographical regions for general (non-sport) and Association-wide committees:

Division III:

Region 1 - Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont;
Region 2 - New York, Pennsylvania;
Region 3 - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia; and
Region 4 - Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

[Into_the_Blue]

I talked earlier about the geographic region setup ... found it.....  it may be of interest   -  if two schools are in the same geographic region, it's a regional game.


Following are the geographical regions for general (non-sport) and Association-wide committees:

Division III:

Region 1 - Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont;
Region 2 - New York, Pennsylvania;
Region 3 - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia; and
Region 4 - Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

Thanks for the info Hope.



I_had_game...I was hoping you'd elaborate on who you think the SLIAC teams would play in the postseason (depending on who won the tourney).  Im sure you meant Webster at Wash U but who else for the other teams?

Also for those in the know, even if WC had a good enough record/resume is there no chance for WC to host a game based on its location (maybe ever?) ?