MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Titan Q]

Westminster's player of the game was 6-5 freshman forward Charlie Henderson.  Henderson came in averaging about 12 minutes per game, but must have played about 25 today.  (I know he was on the floor the final 15:00 or so, and must have played 10 or so in the 1st.)  I have not seen a boxscore, but I'd guess Henderson finished with about 14 points and 5 rebounds. 

The Westminster/IC boxscore...

http://angel.westminster-mo.edu/www_athletics/basketballm10-11/mb54.htm

Henderson played 25 minutes and had 15 pts & 5 reb.

Jake Vislay was the leading scorer with 20 and Skylar Tolson had 16.

[hopefan]

Back home safe and sound... snow had just gotten heavy by time I reached St. Louis...left Holly Springs at 54 degrees, 100 miles  north in Missouri it had reached 30, and by the time I got to St Louis, it was 19 and blowing snow.   Tough loss for Webster, not because of the score, but Drew Moore may have gone down with a torn achilles... that is not official, we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed.... the game was one of the scrappiest I've ever seen, the officials let alot go, and it worked to Rust's advantage as Webster just couldn't keep up with the frantic pace that Rust dictated, and Rust got a very good come from behind win, (but not without a fantastic last 2 minute comeback by Webster, making the game all the more exciting.}... I'll write more later...left at 7, home at 2 in the morn (yes, I did hit Tunica... and Caruthersville).. back to bed.

[y_jack_lok]

From the box score http://sliac.org/sports/mbkb/2010-11/stats/MB53.HTM it looks like Webster simply fouled too much because the difference was at the free throw line. Possibly a result of not being able to keep up with the pace Rust set as mentioned by hopefan???

[Denny McKinney]

Well 7.5 hours to make a 4.5 drive. White out accross IL. Enough to drive a man to a drink. Glad I'm 8+ years Sober .

Last nite FU ran into a buzz saw. APU coming off an OT loss and staring at an upcoming trip to Memphis, played like a team I wouldn't be suprised in the NCAA Tourney.

Two bright spots. 1.) Raymond Woods still pounded with guys at the next level. I don't think there is a post in the SLIAC who can guard him one on one. 2.) The continued contribution coming out of Freddie Fleming. Who was rewarded with a starting nod.

It doesn't get much easier with a road trip to RHIT.

But then we get a break to try and get Dad stronger and a Christmas gift to Florida.

Curious. Why no questions this year regarding WC's trip to Hawaii? FU got blasted for it's last trip.

[y_jack_lok]

Curious. Why no questions this year regarding WC's trip to Hawaii? FU got blasted for it's last trip.

Denny< don't take this the wrong way. I think it's because no one from WC posts much here so we really aren't aware of what they are doing. And for the record I've never quesrtioned who FU plays, nor where or when.

[hopefan]

Now who would EVER question something like that......

[hopefan]

More on Rust - Webster... the random thought method..

Webster had 8 fans in the stands behind the team bench....  Myself, Robbie Meeh's dad, a fellow from the Webster SID office, whose name I didn't catch, Alec Kuhl's dad, and 4 members of Hollis Edward's family (Hollis is from the Memphis area, only about 40 minutes away)    The game started with only about 50 people in the stands, but as time went on, students came in, and in the 2nd half, the crowd had grown to a very loud 200 to 250.

The game was also on the campus radio station, and the student announcers sat right behind us... from what I heard they were doing a fine job and keeping the conversation and description going...  had alot of fun with a group of students sitting behind us.... they were giving us some tease as Rust took control of the game, but took some teasing back from me when Webster had a last minute comeback.. all was good natured and laughing it up... the crowd was really into the game... Rust had great support... but what really brought the house down was an ally oop fast break jam from Webster's Willie Trimble to Nick Jones... the crowd went bonkers!!!

The Rust campus is just that, a real campus, set off from the neighborhood by Black iron fencing... weird thing is that I had to drive the length  and width of the campus before I could find the only entrance to it that wasn't closed.... anyway, coming off the highway, it's very impressive to see... large red brick buildings.... hauntingly eerie though is that right across the street is a second campus, totally deserted, buildings with the same red brick appearance  boarded up and in disarray, Mississippi Industrial College, it's sign smashed up

from Google..."Founded in 1905 on the outskirts of Holly Springs, the Mississippi Industrial College trained young African-Americans for seventy-seven years under the sponsorship of the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church. Bishop Elias Cottrell established the school "for the literary and industrial training of the Negro youth, to train young men and women in Christian ideals, to furnish a practical education, and to make of them better citizens." Between 1906 and 1982, when the college closed, the school expanded from its two original buildings – Catherine Hall (1906) and Hammond Hall (1906) — to include ten structures, including dormitories, classroom buildings, teachers' houses, and a gymnasium. Today, four historic buildings, listed on the National Register of Historic Places as part of the Mississippi Industrial College Historic District, stand unused and deteriorating on the west side of Highway 78, across from Rust College. Some stabilization work on the campus also threatens the buildings' architectural integrity."

The town of Holly Springs was quaint, and it really did have a deep south feeling... just listening to the people speak with the southern accents, it wasn't midwest any more.  The town had a town square with a large historical building in the middle... unfortunately, it was raining so hard that I was unable to explore the various shops... and the square was relatively deserted due to the weather.  I noticed the Webster bus parked in the square and found them having a pregame lunch... Coach Bunch graciously invited me to join, so we had some good hoops conversation.  Coach reminded me that his prior job had been at Maryville College in Tennessee, an every year opponent of Rust, and that relationship was what had fostered the Webster - Rust relationship... they will play again next year.

The Rust gym was old, but the floor was full sized, and it didn't give a cramped feeling when you entered..  outside the gym though was a different story.. only a couple of narrow hallways at each end, though the students had set up a small concession area.
The wooden bleachers would probably hold close to 800 for a big game... the floor was a tartan rubber, don't know if that contributed to Drew Moores injury, but Robbie Meeh also went down when his foot grabbed the surface rather than slid...fortunately he was able to run it off...

The game..an unbelievable start for Webster, hitting their first 9 shots!!! Rust on the other hand, couldn't hit anything... when Webster was 9 for nine, Rust was 1 for 10, and Webster quickly built a 20 point lead....  it didn't last.... Moore went down early, Alex Kuhl got in foul trouble, and Webster simply had no muscle but Robbie Meeh.  Rust had cut  it to 12 by half, and even then, I didn't have a good feeling... Rust came out in the second half and just played super, running, pressing, shooting well from the perimeter, and killing Webster with fast breaks and offensive rebounding.  Foul Shooting was also a problem... at one point in time, I commented to Mr Meeh that Webster was 4 for 13, while Rust was 11 for 15.... that 7 shot difference was the margin of the score at the time, and ultimately the final spread.  Webster was 10 down under 2 minutes when Nick Jones made 2 3's along with the jam, and it was a two point game.  The play of the game occurred with 45 seconds left... Rust was in trouble with the ball, and just as Hollis Edwards swiped it away and would have been off for a layup, the Rust bench called a timeout behind the play..  it was granted and Rust maintained possession... from thereon, it was fouls etc and Rust finished up 7...incidentally..the box score to me,seems deficient.. webster seemed to have more than 13 turnovers, and the rebounding seemed far more onesided than 29-21.  Rust seemed to get 2nd and third shots any time they missed!!!  It was a war zone around the basket...

It was a fun experience, a long day, but another piece of my D3 life... wouldn't trade it for anything...

[hopefan]

I really hope we've misread Drew Moore's injury and that he can come back... this seemed to be Webster's year, but he's a critical part of the puzzle...

[hopefan]

Hopefan - I have a ton at + 40.

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Yikes, hoped you still have a little something left for my Christmas present!!!!

[Denny McKinney]

Hopefan – It was a shame the weather was so bad. A lot of American history not taught in today's schools. Dad was coaching at Wellston HS here in St. Louis during the time of the March on Selma and a lot of the turbulence of the 60's. This was an education for a very young man like me.

Contrary to popular belief not all slaves were given property to share crop. The late 1800's thru the early 1900's saw many teachers and technical colleges founded in that time. Most got their initial funding from Tulsa, OK. At the time the Greenwood – Archer and Pine district of north Tulsa was referred to as the Black Wall Street. There were more banks per block then anywhere in our country.

This was until 1921 when the worst race riot in US history resulted. They burned downed about a 10 block area. Some of the homes and businesses were torched with people still occupying them. This put an end to most of the capital for these types of colleges.

Take another trip south when you have time and ask questions. You'll be shocked at what you'll learn. It's a shame most of this is never mentioned in today's American History classes. If it had been things might just be a little different now.

[hopefan]

+1 Denny

[WUPHF]

More on Rust - Webster... the random thought method..

Thanks for the reports.  This makes me want to take road trip myself.  Did you get a chance to meet the Rust College assistant who regularly lobbies for a Top 25 ranking?

[Denny McKinney]

Thanks Hopefan. Two of the chapters in the book I'm writing are dedicated to Dad's day's at Wellston. Like picking up sack burgers at road side cafe's with the "No Service" signs. And, my Dad's 30th birthday suprise party at our house in North County being raided and broken up.

It's amazing how basketball is tied to history. The only painting still hanging in my Dad's office is of a Wellston player named George Washington. I sat on George's lap during JV games till it was time for the Varsity to dress. George later survived two tours of duty in Vietnam. But was killed when someone broke into his Grandma's home his first nite back.

We haven't made much head way folks.

[hopefan]

  WUH... there is a picture of 'Rustcollege' and hopefan on my cell - he came looking for me!!!
Nice young man, who as the assistant coach was taking care of a million things prior to the game.....  Dressed very handsomely!!!!!

[RFMichigan]

Hopefan – It was a shame the weather was so bad. A lot of American history not taught in today’s schools. Dad was coaching at Wellston HS here in St. Louis during the time of the March on Selma and a lot of the turbulence of the 60’s. This was an education for a very young man like me.

Contrary to popular belief not all slaves were given property to share crop. The late 1800’s thru the early 1900’s saw many teachers and technical colleges founded in that time. Most got their initial funding from Tulsa, OK. At the time the Greenwood – Archer and Pine district of north Tulsa was referred to as the Black Wall Street. There were more banks per block then anywhere in our country.

This was until 1921 when the worst race riot in US history resulted. They burned downed about a 10 block area. Some of the homes and businesses were torched with people still occupying them. This put an end to most of the capital for these types of colleges.

Take another trip south when you have time and ask questions. You’ll be shocked at what you’ll learn. It’s a shame most of this is never mentioned in today’s American History classes. If it had been things might just be a little different no

Since I have had a few days off of school due to the weather and there's not much d-III action because many schools have finals this week, this old history major was inspired to do a little research and reading after seeing your posts. Fascinating stuff. (And your father's health is in my prayer's as well..)