MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Pat,

Here is why I believe Doane will not go D3.  They are in a small town and their facilities are not the best.  They would have a hard time competing without scholarships.  Hastings has been a powerhouse in a few sports with NAIA.  They do reside in a somewhat bigger town with new facilities.  I think they could compete in time at the D3 level.  It is encouraging that the three are exploring their options though. 

Midland Lutheran in the same conference would also be a good candidate for D3 being near Omaha and having a nice basketball arena.  (However, I have not see their other facilities).

Just my take, I hope I am wrong with Doane and Hastings.

None of what you mention is a deal-breaker, at least. Lots of schools are in small towns with not-the-best facilities. "We can't compete without scholarships" is a coach's crutch, I think. Plenty of D-III schools do just fine.

[hopefan]

one and   -  unfortunately I likely won't see Sykes play as BC has fallen out of contention.... can you give me a rundown on him... was he on BC squad last year - if so, how did he do   -  if not, where was he?  what year is he?  how big is he, what kind of game does he play   -  with a player like that, and others such as Baro, why haven't they beaten but Prin   - 

Sykes deserves recognition on these pages with the numbers he's putting up  -  unfortunately I haven't seen him to help........

AND thanks for the softball heads up - I appreciate softball as my daughter played in college, though I'v only seen a couple of games.... would be fun to take in a days worth of games on a balmy spring day......

[theoneandonly]

one and   -  unfortunately I likely won't see Sykes play as BC has fallen out of contention.... can you give me a rundown on him... was he on BC squad last year - if so, how did he do   -  if not, where was he?  what year is he?  how big is he, what kind of game does he play   -  with a player like that, and others such as Baro, why haven't they beaten but Prin   - 

Sykes deserves recognition on these pages with the numbers he's putting up  -  unfortunately I haven't seen him to help........

AND thanks for the softball heads up - I appreciate softball as my daughter played in college, though I'v only seen a couple of games.... would be fun to take in a days worth of games on a balmy spring day......

Well Sykes is a Transfer from Danvillle Area Community College (DACC) hes a 6'5" 195lb Junior Forward he plays tough down low but can shoot the outside shot. Likes to take the ball to the hole though since there is a major lack of big men at Blackburn. And the exact reason you stated is the exact reason why they can only beat prin. They only have Sykes and Baro and no matter what conference you play in you need a whole team. They also have a point guard that is decent Blake Doehring but they majorly lack big men and thats where they seem to get dominated. Other than sykes pulling down a ton of rebounds. and as for the softball thought you might be interested since it was hope 

[furbug]

A much deserved Player of the Week for Webster's Ryan Turk

http://www.websterathletics.com/news/2009/2/2/MBB_TurkPOW.aspx 

[DukeDevil]

No disrespect to Hopefan or FC, but the official at MacMurray made an incorrect call.  The rule was changed several years ago so that the five-second count ends when the inbounder releases the basketball.  See NCAA Rule Section 67 Article 5:

"A thrower-in shall have five seconds from receiving disposal of the ball
to release the throw-in. The throw-in count shall end when the ball is released by
the thrower-in so that the ball goes directly into the playing court."

[pantherpride06]

Good research DukeDevil.  You beat me too it.  I was looking in my officials manual to double check that.  I was sure that the count ended following the release.

[fcnews]

I also look up the rule. Just didn't get to a computer in time. The call could of only been a 10 second backcourt call.

[hopefan]

Dang, foiled again...   now back when I played....

[y_jack_lok]

I also look up the rule. Just didn't get to a computer in time. The call could of only been a 10 second backcourt call.

Well, the ball was rolling awfully slowly up the court, but I don't think 10 seconds had transpired, though I could be wrong. I don't know how the refs are supposed to signal a 10 second backcourt violation. The signal I saw was one hand in the air with the fingers spread apart, which led me to believe he was calling a five second in-bounds violation. Also, doesn't the 10 second backcourt count start once a player in bounds has touched the ball? Which would suggest that it couldn't have been a backcourt violation in this case since the ball had not been touched in bounds before the whistle was blown.

Of course this question is not important regarding Saturday's game as the outcome was not close enough for it to have made any difference. But I do think it is important from the standpoint of coaches making sure their players know the rules, and even more important for officials to make the right call. Hopefully some coaches, players, and officials have read this exchange and will give themselves a refresher course.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question.

[hopefan]

Being the brute for even play that I am, I played with the remaining schedule to see that if Eureka won out, and the 5 teams above them beat each other up, could we finish the season with a 6 way tie for first with 5 losses?   You'll all be pleased to know the answer is no - one of the 5 other teams would have 6 losses   ---   now then, a 6 way tie with 6 losses, no problem - but Mac or Blackburn or Prin would have to help us out with a couple of wins against the the 'upper 6'

[fcnews]

Mentioning milestones. It may be of interest to SLIAC readers that Fontbonne's Brian Fogerty went over the 1500 pt mark a couple of games back.

Storandt has also passed the 750/750 mark (pts and rebs) and is closing in on the Fontbonne career blocks record.

[theoneandonly]

My Picks for tonight.. Say what you will

Blackburn Over Lincoln Christian
Fontbonne Over Principia

Both for obvious reasons.

[sully309]

What obvious reason is there for picking Blackburn over Lincoln Christian? The Preachers beat the Beavers on Jan. 17 78-70. They also have a win over Greenville.

Thanks to Hopefan for noticing my error. It has since been fixed. Also, you guys did get the home run pass correct in the EC/Fontbonne game from 2 years ago. Chris Tarpley threw the pass and A.J. Richard made the shot from the baseline. That game was different as it was Fontbonne that came backback from an 8 point deficit to take the lead. There was 3.5 seconds left for that play.

I wouldn't want to be Principia tonight. Something tells me Fontbonne will be in "message sending" mode.

[theoneandonly]

What obvious reason is there for picking Blackburn over Lincoln Christian? The Preachers beat the Beavers on Jan. 17 78-70. They also have a win over Greenville.

Thanks to Hopefan for noticing my error. It has since been fixed. Also, you guys did get the home run pass correct in the EC/Fontbonne game from 2 years ago. Chris Tarpley threw the pass and A.J. Richard made the shot from the baseline. That game was different as it was Fontbonne that came backback from an 8 point deficit to take the lead. There was 3.5 seconds left for that play.

I wouldn't want to be Principia tonight. Something tells me Fontbonne will be in "message sending" mode.

For obvious reasons such as sykes 25 rebounds last time they played and baros 28 points. although it was a short time ago blackburn has been playing much better lately and only lost by 5 to fontbonne. they were in that game the whole time and actually had many chances to win that game just didnt capitalize. Leave it up to sykes and Baro tonight and i will GUARANTEE you a win.

[hopefan]

Not too early to start talking about tomorrow's HUGE games....

Mac at Greenville   Watch out - I smell an upset here  ...   Greenville nipped Mac by 3 just 2 weeks ago - they did it getting 32 points from their bench  -  in addition Mac's Farrid Coleman had an atypical poor game, going one for 10 from the field.  If Mac isn't exhausted from playing with 5 guys, and they haven't packed it in, I think that they can give GC a real battle.  From Greenville's point of view, they surely want to win this one, with Westmin, Maryville and Font coming up after Mac.

Westmin at Maryville ...  Maryville is coming off games against the bottom 3 BC, Mac , and Prin, all of which they won handily, plus last Saturday off  -  that's two weeks without stiff competition - so are they well rested and ready for Westmin, or are they stale from lack of competition over the 2 weeks.... if I know Coach Rogers, they'll be ready... let's hope they can continue to shoot hot as they did in last 3 games averaging 95 points per game.
Big question in everyone's minds is will Jason Warnicke be able to return, so tough to play after a delilitating injury like he suffered - I'm concerned for his health - hope he doesn't take another shot to the face if he does play.   This game figures to be physical battle - can't wait to see old heads Crawford and Keushall battle youngsters Simmons and Dulle - Please Maryville, don't rely only on the three pointers - go to the basket.
Wonder if my new buddies Misters Logue or Forsythe will be in attendance?
A Westmin loss puts everyone at 3 losses, A Maryville loss puts them temporarily behind 4 others.

Webster at Eureka  Anyone who saw Eureka beat Fontbonne on Saturday has a newfound respect for "the little team that could".....  And certainly Webster knows that this has to be treated as a critical game for their playoff, and title, aspirations.  These two teams are very much alike-  not much size - a lot of slashers - I love a Niebrugge and Hrdlicka comparison to the Eureka combo of Zasada and Bell - all four really play hard.  I don't feel like Webster will be bothered by the press like Fontbonne was, but that tough trip Webster has to take gives Eureka a homecourt advantage  -   I'll be anxious to receive Eureka SID's stream of scores as I watch the Maryville Westmin game.  A MUST WIN for Eureka if they are to have any chance for the conference tourney field.

And... on the lady's side - can Westmin stay with Maryville???  Sorry, I don't think so - Fontbonne will be in 2nd place alone after tomorrow....