MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

hopefan · February 05, 2009, 12:33:15 PM

Son of a gun - NO ONE pointed out the new commish to me!!!! And while I didn't sit with those guys during the game, I did go over and talk with them at half time.

PS 'SCOUTING REPORT' - a little birdie told me - the Griffs will be ready for the next press they see - OR ELSE

fcnews · February 05, 2009, 12:38:43 PM

So right!!! Try pressing at your own risk.

hopefan · February 05, 2009, 03:42:05 PM

I'm not sure that it has been brought up here directly - but the big game Maryville vs Fontbonne is even bigger than many know - A Fontbonne win will be Coach McKinney's #500!!!

I was thinking of going over to Greenville Westmin on Saturday as I would receive results from Font through FC, but seeing Coach McK go for #500 is too good to pass up....

fcnews · February 05, 2009, 04:07:18 PM

That's 500 college wins. Career is 787 and counting.

y_jack_lok · February 05, 2009, 06:48:30 PM

Quote from: fcnews on February 05, 2009, 04:07:18 PM
That's 500 college wins. Career is 787 and counting.

To get listed in the d3hoops Milestones section do coach McKinney's 500 college coaching wins have to all be at D3 schools?

Also, I see that Brian Fogerty's name appears in the Milestone's section for scoring 1,500 points, as poiinted out a couple of pages back by fcnews. Congratulations!

fcnews · February 05, 2009, 08:37:33 PM

I'm not sure on that one Yjak. I know it's recognized by the NABC and MO Sports Hall of Fame. I do know one thing. He'd trade any milestone for a win on Saturday.
Big Game.

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2009, 09:13:31 PM

Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 05, 2009, 06:48:30 PM
Quote from: fcnews on February 05, 2009, 04:07:18 PM
That's 500 college wins. Career is 787 and counting.

To get listed in the d3hoops Milestones section do coach McKinney's 500 college coaching wins have to all be at D3 schools?

No -- they just have to follow the same standards as the NCAA listings do, which is they have to all be at four-year intercollegiate men's programs. (Or women's programs for a women's coach.)

Thanks for the heads-up.

y_jack_lok · February 05, 2009, 10:14:45 PM

So I take it that means they don't even have to all be at NCAA institutions.

Question for fcnews. Wasn't Coach McKinney at Missouri Baptist before Fontbonne?

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2009, 11:00:57 PM

Exactly right. Any four-year intercollegiate basketball program.

fcnews · February 05, 2009, 11:12:13 PM

Yes Yjak. Ten years at Mo. Bapt. Took over a team at semester break that was something like 0-10. Beat McKendree ( which Mo Bapt. had never done ) in his first game and I believe they went to the final four or elite 8 in the National Little College Tourney that year. Coached the first men's game in FC history in 88-89 season. Fontbonne College did not have a gym. There was a building with a swimming pool sitting where the DSAC is now. Half court basketball court upstairs, severely warped wood floor ( from the humidity of the pool below) and NO out of bounds. Basket attached straight to the wall and white lines against the outer walls. FC called the quazi hut fieldhouse at Concordia College home. It also was the practice facility for the St. Louis Hawks.

sully309 · February 06, 2009, 02:29:52 AM

It was another exciting Eureka game Wednesday in Reagan country. The game was more up-tempo than the 60-55 final score would suggest. Both teams played better defense than the first go-round.

There were 9 ties and 12 lead changes, but Eureka took the lead for good with 9:20 to play during a 10-0 run that opened up a 52-42 lead. EC went on to take an 11 point lead with 2 minutes to play, but a missed FT, turnover and missed shot gave Webster the ball down by 6 with about 30 seconds left. Hrdlicka went in for a layup, but 6-1 Andy Leppard blocked it and EC came up with the ball, which pretty much did it.

Once again it was Sides and Leppard off the bench that got Eureka going in the 2nd half. Their defense along with Murad Abbed was outstanding while the starters were out. Zasada has been very consistent for EC and again had a double-double with 11 and 12. EC continues to shoot poorly from long range at home, but improved to 2-4 in the not-so-friendly confines. For those of you keeping track, road teams are now 25-23 in SLIAC games this season.

It seems unlikely that both Webster and Eureka will make the tournament, and I think that's a shame. Anyone that watched the level of competition between these 2 teams would have to feel that they deserve a shot at it in the postseason tournament. With Maryville's win over Westminster, we are steamrolling toward a situation where a 10-6 team will be left out!

watchdog · February 06, 2009, 10:40:41 AM

Misc. Notes:

Fontbonne Coach Lee McKinney did indeed coach at Missouri Baptist, and very successfully. He then moved to Fontbonne as AD/Coach to start the men's program. I belief that it was about the same time Fontbonne started admitting men.

Westminster Assoc. AD Terry Logue is a Westminster graduate and former AD, but not a former coach at the school. He coached at another school, but left coaching because as he has said, he was not very good at it.

Mathematically, the men's basketball race is wide open. Enjoy the stretch run!

fcnews · February 06, 2009, 12:06:18 PM

Your so right Watchdog. Now I can't remember who was the coach at the time. Let's see Bob Gay was at Mac, Ira Zeff at BC (now AD at Neb. Wesleyen) and Dennis Kruse was at Maryville. Webster had Tom Hart, now current AD.

Pride help me out. Was Doug Faulkner the coach at GC? Or did he come their in the early 90's?

Boy we're going back aways now.

pantherpride06 · February 06, 2009, 02:36:35 PM

Doug Faulkner was the Greenville coach at the transition point from NAIA to NCAA III.

hopefan · February 06, 2009, 06:15:30 PM

Quote from: eureka_sid on February 06, 2009, 02:29:52 AM
With Maryville's win over Westminster, we are steamrolling toward a situation where a 10-6 team will be left out!

There are 6 contenders now for four spots, with 10 games left between those contenders.... if we assume none of the contenders are upset by Mac, BC or Prin,

there is no mathematical way a team with 7 losses will get in the playoffs

there is a way - several in fact - that there could be a five way tie for first with five losses - To accomplish that Eureka must win its remaining two games with contenders, and Webster must win 2 of its remaining 3 games with contenders

As EurekaSID stated, there are numerous ways for a 6 loss team to be left out..

There are thousands of permutations of 10 games between contenders... throw in just the chance of one upset to a noncontender and it increases further

Games remaining versus contenders...
Fontbonne 4 (WC, GC, MU, WU)
Westminster 3 (FU,GC, EC)
Greenville 4 (WC, FU, MU, WU)
Maryville 4 (FU, GC, WU, EC)
Webster 3 (FU,GC, MU)
Eureka 2 !!!!!! (WC, MU) Win those two, don't lose to a Non Contender, in for sure