MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Titan Q]

No one injured..... Got the check........

How big could the check have been for a game that drew 1400 people?

Five years ago IWU played the Illini, with 15,000 plus in attendance...

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I think IWU got about $15,000... how much could Fontbonne have gotten from D2 Central Missouri?

[hopefan]

TQ... bigger than if they were playing Concordia St Louis  

[hopefan]

No games in the SLIAC tonight, but good games to follow this weekend, starting Friday Night...

I'll be going over to Greenville to see Westminster play Rhodes, and Greenville play Hendrix.

Rhodes is coming off a two pont loss to Howard Payne, 81-79... they were led in scoring by Guard Andrew Galow with 24 points.... including 15-16 from the line....  the kid must go to the basket...alot!!!!   Rhodes site has nothing on the game though it was played on Monday... got the Box from Howard Payne...

Hendrix also had a close loss in their first game, to the University of the Ozarks, 70-66 - forward Nick Heathscott was their leading scorer with 18 points...

Hendrix and Rhodes always play SLIAC schools tough... this should be a good doubleheader.

At the same time I'm over in Illinois, Webster will be hosting a doubleheader....  Nebraska Wesleyan will be playing Millikin and Webster plays Sewanee on Friday
I'm heading to Webster on Saturday to see them play Nebraska Wesleyan

'way up North' Blackburn plays at Dominican, and Spalding and Fontbonne play in the Moody Bible Tourney

All of these games are winnable for the SLIAC teams... it could be a great night... BUT, there isn't one that isn't also loseable.... though I would hope Fontbonne can handle Moody...

Please closet readers...write!!!   let us know what happens at these games!!

Incidently, happy 38th wedding anniversary to me... can you imagine how lucky I am to have a lady put up with me for that long... and to think, our 3rd or 4th date was her coming over to watch me play for then 'college division' RPI!!! (December 1969)

[Denny McKinney]

Well TQ if you need to know, FU recieved $8000. Add the Austin Peay game guarantee, golf tourney funraiser and you have travel expenses for Chicago weekend and Christmas in Florida. Hope that was the answer you were looking for.

[RFMichigan]

TQ... bigger than if they were playing Concordia St Louis   

At Concordia St. Louis (which is a seminary of the LC-MS), you just get 10% of the plate offering gate. 

(As an alumni of a Concordia I feel that I can say with with tongue in cheek .)
By the way, we (Concordia -RF) played Concordia-St. Louis every year, and every year we played them we played against at least one of our own former teammates who had gone on to "The Sem" which was always a little surreal.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Well TQ if you need to know, FU recieved $8000. Add the Austin Peay game guarantee, golf tourney funraiser and you have travel expenses for Chicago weekend and Christmas in Florida. Hope that was the answer you were looking for.

I doubt Q was being critical, since guaranteed payments were how Denny Bridges financed holiday trips as well.  Just dubious that a d2, drawing only a gate of 1,400, could actually provide a guarantee worth bothering about.  I'm very impressed that you got so much.

[hopefan]

Wonder if Greenville will provide supper for anyone sitting through all four games?

[Denny McKinney]

Mr Ypsi, didn't take it as being critical. When you've been in the game as long as Dad, it's about connections. It was CMU's regular season home opener, no matter the size of crowd. I've never heard of any guarantee based on a gate since being at Fontbonne. Now back in the day when Mo Bapt played at the "Pit" NM. That was a different story.

Anyway, flew into Chicago last nite. Love this trip!!!

[Titan Q]

Definitely not critical...just completely shocked, honestly, that Central Mo is dishing out $8000 to a D3 school.  And I didn't mean to suggest that the guarantee would be tied directly to the gate that night, but usually there is a direct correlation between a program's average attendance and the guarantee amount (it's basically a function of revenue).  UCM averages less than Hope and Calvin I would guess -- while I don't know for sure, I don't think the two MIAA powers are giving out $8000 guarantees per home game.

But bottom line, more power to Fontbonne -- $8000 is fantastic.  

[Pat Coleman]

When I was working at Catholic, Radford paid out $3,000 for a game in which Catholic had to travel overnight, and I believe Davidson paid similar. These were in 1995 and 1996, of course.

Agreed that 8K is great, congrats.

[Pat Coleman]

There's no clock for D3. UW-Platteville has a 28-year old forward named Joe Allen. After serving in the army, he was Heartland Conference Freshman of the Year at St. Mary's (TX-D2) in 2004-05 and a 1st team all-conference pick as a soph in 2005-06. Then he transferred to D1 UW-Milwaukee (having to sit out the 2006-07 season) but missed the 2007-08 season with an injury. Now he's at Platteville and I think he's listed as a senior, but if I understand the rule correctly, he'd still have 2 years of eligibility in D3.

Also, Augie had a running back named Kirk Sanders who lettered in 1984, 1985 and 1990!

Looks like the Zimmerman kid has only played three seasons, so he should be OK.

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Way to take hopefan through the McDonald's drive thru, Dan!

I know I'm a few days behind on the boards, but Q, reading the NCAA manual is hardly the McDonald's drive thru. It's more like a French restaurant where you can't understand what's even on the menu.

[Titan Q]

Just learned that D2 Kentucky Wesleyan, which typically draws well, pays $2000-$3000 per game.  So at least I feel better about being shocked with that $8000 figure!

[Titan Q]

There's no clock for D3. UW-Platteville has a 28-year old forward named Joe Allen. After serving in the army, he was Heartland Conference Freshman of the Year at St. Mary's (TX-D2) in 2004-05 and a 1st team all-conference pick as a soph in 2005-06. Then he transferred to D1 UW-Milwaukee (having to sit out the 2006-07 season) but missed the 2007-08 season with an injury. Now he's at Platteville and I think he's listed as a senior, but if I understand the rule correctly, he'd still have 2 years of eligibility in D3.

Also, Augie had a running back named Kirk Sanders who lettered in 1984, 1985 and 1990!

Looks like the Zimmerman kid has only played three seasons, so he should be OK.

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Way to take hopefan through the McDonald's drive thru, Dan!

I know I'm a few days behind on the boards, but Q, reading the NCAA manual is hardly the McDonald's drive thru. It's more like a French restaurant where you can't understand what's even on the menu.

Good call, Pat.  Or if like McDonald's, one of those times they're changing the menu up.

"Sorry sir, we no longer have the McRib."

"Unfortunately we stopped selling Shamrock Shakes yesterday."

[y_jack_lok]

Nice 67-60 win for Webster tonight over a young Sewanee team -- one senior, two juniors, the rest sophs and frosh. Sewanee coach Bubba Smith, who spent 8 years (5 as head coach) at Hampden-Sydney in the very tough ODAC, has his young guys playing well. But Webster's maturity, rebounding, good defense, and limited turnovers were the difference. While Sewanee was only 8-31 on 3-pointers, they hit some crucial wide open ones early in the 2nd half to keep Webster from building a bigger lead. Juco transfer guard Willie Trimble had 18 points in his first game as a Gorlok. Moore, Jones and freshman center Jarrod Huskey also scored in double figures.

Tomorrow afternoon against Nebraska Wesleyan will be tough. They are fundamentally sound in every aspect of the game and have height that Swanee didn't. They handled Millikin easily by 20+ points.

[Denny McKinney]

Fontbonne gets a win over MBI 81-70. 1st half fontbonne took control and went into half up 16 pts. Stretched it to 20 in the 2nd half and did some subbing..... Progressing. FU still played 10 guys DD mins.

JT lead the way with 17 pts on 7/10 from the field, Sheetz had 16, Garner 13 (3-3 from 3's) and Jenkins with 10 (2-30 from 3's). Rebounding was really turned around.

Tommorow nite FU plays Wm Penn. Wm Penn barely beat a very good Spalding team. Will be a tough nite for the Griff's.