MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Titan Q]

Postgame comments by Ron Rose and Dylan Overstreet from WJBC for anyone interested...

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=2526423

[y_jack_lok]

Postgame comments by Ron Rose and Dylan Overstreet from WJBC for anyone interested...

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=2526423

Thanks.

[Titan Q]

Anyone have the scoop on Webster's Hunter Ward?  After watching him play, just curious about his path to Webster.

* He was a senior at Kirwood H.S. in 2009-10

* He committed to Three Rivers Community College in April 2010 - http://earlaustinjr.com/?p=3165.

* And then NAIA Ashford in May 2011 - http://www.ashfordathletics.com/article/1193.php#.UxuRGdzEjsg

But he obviously never played at those schools, because he is listed as a FR here in 2013-14.  Anyone have the background of his path since high school?

As Dylan Overstreet said in that WJBC interview, he is stud.  What a great player for the Gorloks to build around.  I'm always intrigued by stories of kids finding their way to various places.  Thanks.

[y_jack_lok]

Anyone have the scoop on Webster's Hunter Ward?  After watching him play, just curious about his path to Webster.

* He was a senior at Kirwood H.S. in 2009-10

* He committed to Three Rivers Community College in April 2010 - http://earlaustinjr.com/?p=3165.

* And then NAIA Ashland in May 2011 - http://www.ashfordathletics.com/article/1193.php#.UxuRGdzEjsg

But he obviously never played at those schools, because he is listed as a FR here in 2013-14.  Anyone have the background of his path since high school?


As Dylan Overstreet said in that WJBC interview, he is stud.  What a great player for the Gorloks to build around.  I'm always intrigued by stories of kids finding their way to various places.  Thanks.

I don't know anything about whether or not he played at either of the above schools that might affect how much basketball eligibility he has. I do know that he enrolled at Webster in the fall of 2012 and was listed on the initial roster that season but had to drop out for reasons I'm not aware of. He re-enrolled at some point (either spring or fall 2013) and had to establish academic eligibility before playing 2nd semester this season. I don't know if his listing as a freshman applies to his academic status, his basketball eligibility, or both.

[BunchTime]

I do know Ward can play the next 3 seasons.  I predicted last night and I don't think this is an overstatement that he'll leave Webster (obviously assuming he plays all 4 years) as the greatest player in WU history.  He's a rare talent you don't see at this level all too often.

[Denny McKinney]

Hey All. The sun did come up today. Hunter Ward played on a good Kirkwood HS team. I don't think 3R was his first choice and came home. Sophmore year Repeat. He just didn't know if he wanted to play. Burn out. He was on WU campus last year but didn't make it till practices started. Something changed his direction last summer. Called WU and arranged to play. He went thru the first semester this Year at WU. Did well I heard. And this is Hunter "Joe" Ward as a young 22. Little wear and tear on the body. I hope becomes "Special" and I applaud Coach Bunch for giving a kid a 4th chance. Hunter Ward owes what chance he has to Coach Bunch. And, Pretty sure he will pay him back. Probably Coach's next AA. Definitely in the discussion for Freshmen Honors.

For those who watched him since Christmas. What EVERYONE saw last nite was NOT out of the ordinary. This is his game. Last nite he cranked it up a little for affair. Has been a Great off guard rebounder. He goes hard every time to the boards. He has been slowly becoming more of the WU's game plans last 4-5 games. Remember, there was The Big Man, Smith and Hollis in control. Last nite was a do or die contest and he just caught that moment at the right time. He was playing at a different emotional level then most. This was his reward for making it BACK. #Classof2017Grad

[Denny McKinney]

The On Demand of the IWU/Webster game is here - http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/iwu.portal#.


* (2:03:00) Gorkoks up 70-69 with 0:08 to play, IWU's Dylan Overstreet drives into the lane.  Webster's Adam Letter is whistled for a reaching in foul.  This one is hard to see on the video, but based on where Etter is when the call is made (on Overstreet's right hip, chasing, and reaching in), it looks like a foul. Almost simultaneously, Overstreet is contacted by Jarrod Huskey as he attempts to pass to Brady Zimmer on the right wing...Huskey is moving forward into Overstreet.  I feel pretty confident Dylan Overstreet was fouled on this play.  Overstreet makes both FTs.

No dog in the fight here.

Dylan was trying to create something, but the defense collapsed on him such that he really had no good place to go with it.  I definitely don't see that Huskey was moving forward into Overstreet, looked pretty set to me.  But that good move results in Dylan stopping and looking for something else.  The way the game was being called, one could argue that it might've been a charge- BUT I'm glad that contact went as a no call.  On Etters attempt to strip the ball, it looked fairly clean to me based solely on the view that the ball went down(which usually means the defender got mostly ball).  In any case, I didn't like the call because it resulted in a bit of a 'bailout call' in the face of good solid D.  Should have been a no call also in my opinion.

On the inbounds play, yes looked like a clear violation to me although I, like others, don't know if the specific rule gives latitude there.  I will say that I've seen that done in dozens of games, in less dire circumstances, and it's never called.  Interestingly, the same ref who didn't call that was the same ref who blew the whistle 4 secs later on

. . . the Huskey illegal screen with 4 secs, watched it several times and I don't see any evidence of Huskey not being set.  Tough to discern if Huskey's left shoulder moved, but I didn't see any sway that suggested he moved his whole body to impeded Zimmer.  Thus I don't believe that was the right call no matter what the situation, and it was unfortunate that it was called with so much on the line late in a game. 

In any case, agree that clutch foul shooting was pretty good down the stretch.

No Way I could of said it this well. plus 1K sir.

Point: No where in basketball is "they evened upped the calls" an acceptable excuse for any call. Not in the game. You are saying calls made in the last minute "evens up" for a call 5 mins ago, is incredible. The "make up calls" changed the outcome of THIS game. And, NO one will make me believe that at least a couple of Those guys had an agenda at the close of the game. "An IWU win, Safe exit" was involved in thought. And, IWU put them in THE position cause the kept taking 22 footers to beat a zone. But, today I'm Ok with it. I thought the worst screw jobs happened to the visiting team in nonconference play anywhere in the state of Indiana.

You know the feeling. You just expected better in the NCAA Div III National Tournament.

Huskey and Edwards, there are NO "next years", Greg Sager. A Great Kid like Huskey will have that call to remember forever. But, I guess it evened up. Cause "Remember the Titans" had 5 seniors and by golly they are playing tonite. In front of 1750 more fans then there should be.

)))"DONG"((( "OOOOOOOHH SOO Sorry Mr. Edwards, Mr. Huskey. We can not except your answer. Your just wearing the wrong uniform. But, Hey Johnny tell these Nice Young Men what they get for coming"

[BunchTime]

I have not watched the video and from my vantage point I could not see the foul called on Etter. I did, however, have a perfect view of the foul called on Huskey. There is no way around it...it was an absolutely brutal call. Of course, IWU fans will see it through the green glasses and Webster fans will see it through their blue and yellow glasses. Listen to those who have no dog in the fight - all of them disagree with the call. Don't know if Webster would have won but I do know the refs stole an opportunity away from WU to put a shot up! It was beyond egregious, IMO.

[Denny McKinney]

It's ok Bunchtime. We were trying to warn them. And, my Karma says we're not getting respect for it.

[BunchTime]

Yes, we did.  I don't think anyone over on the CCIW board talked about the game vs Webster at all. They talked about the mascot, St. Norbert's vs Ohio Wesleyan and hosting next weekend.

[Denny McKinney]

And, now they act like it never happened. For you Health! Don't watch any replays.

[BunchTime]

I'm not going to.  The funny thing is Titan Q is over there saying it was the right call.  I think anyone who has watched a minimum of 1 basketball game in their life knows that is not a foul.  Of course if the situation was reversed and they called that on IWU, he'd be saying the call was awful. Make no mistake about it, the refs robbed WU an opportunity make history.

[oldknight]

--I'm not certain about my answer on the inbounds play. Technically, it's a turnover but I also know that officials seem to typically interpret it in such a way that if the first player to grab the ball after a made basket or FT was not trying to inbound it (only handing it to the player who is supposed to inbound it) then it's a judgment call by the official. If that speculation is correct, the first "pass" really wasn't a pass and can be ignored. One of my closest friends is a high school and college ref and I'll see him at church tomorrow and find out how that is ruled.

Unbelievably, and as if on cue, the precise play described above happened in the first half of the Calvin/WashU game and the official whistled a violation. Calvin's Jordan Daley grabbed the ball out of bounds on the baseline after a made basket, and delivered it to Dan Stout who was obviously headed toward the baseline in order to inbound it himself. It's common for Stout to inbound in this situation. The ref blew his whistle and signaled traveling on Stout.

Calvin leads at half 39-34.

[Denny McKinney]

and I notice when the game went off. It said, "Sponsored and Produced by the "WWE". Wasn't that "The Bad Ass Billy Gunn" sitting next to you. I finally realize who the officials were. There the guys that called WRESTLEMANIA XXV.

[Denny McKinney]

I think Webster could of Beat SNC. Oh yea. We'll never Know.

Great Crowd Wash U. - NOT.