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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: WUPHF on February 14, 2022, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 14, 2022, 05:07:51 PM
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

hopefan

Yesterday, I mentioned Principia's Jake Kampf and his 3 point shooting abilities....and my frustrations that the Prin offense didn't seem to gear much towards getting him the ball on the perimeter..
Last night against Fontbonne, Kampf goes 5 for 7 from the 3 point range... raising his season 3 point % to 45.5%, which puts him in the top 10 of D3....Crazier yet, his 3 point % in conference games is 54.2%... a number, that if it were for all games, would be FAR ahead of any D3 shooter's stats.. No 1 in the country

Kampf is not the type of player who can create shots with offensive moves... it's off the ball movement and cooperation from teammates with screens and skip passes, and penetration and dish situations.   This kid, if he keeps up this kind of shooting next year and has more offense looking for him, coupled with all Prin starters coming back, could push Prin to the top 2 or 3  in the conference....  and they'd be worth a trip to SLIAC land to see them play...
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WUPHF

Your point is well taken, but I have to point out, if we look only at conference games, Charlie Jacob is shooting 55.6% (45.2% for the season) in UAA play.

I think everyone thought he would Jacob would have a great senior season, but he is currently the primary offensive threat in the back court in the absence of Jack Nolan.

hopefan

Quote from: WUPHF on February 16, 2022, 01:42:52 PM
Your point is well taken, but I have to point out, if we look only at conference games, Charlie Jacob is shooting 55.6% (45.2% for the season) in UAA play.

I think everyone thought he would Jacob would have a great senior season, but he is currently the primary offensive threat in the back court in the absence of Jack Nolan.

WUPIFFFF  ;D ;D ;D   nice % comparison... but you forgot to mention Kampf has 4 times the total 3 point shots that Jacob has and 5 times the conference 3 point shots.....
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: hopefan on February 16, 2022, 08:40:32 AM
Yesterday, I mentioned Principia's Jake Kampf and his 3 point shooting abilities....and my frustrations that the Prin offense didn't seem to gear much towards getting him the ball on the perimeter..
Last night against Fontbonne, Kampf goes 5 for 7 from the 3 point range... raising his season 3 point % to 45.5%, which puts him in the top 10 of D3....Crazier yet, his 3 point % in conference games is 54.2%... a number, that if it were for all games, would be FAR ahead of any D3 shooter's stats.. No 1 in the country

Kampf is not the type of player who can create shots with offensive moves... it's off the ball movement and cooperation from teammates with screens and skip passes, and penetration and dish situations.

I'm glad that the kid is the type of player who is dependent upon his teammates to get him scoring opportunities. It'd be a shame if he had to go through his playing days with the nickname Jake "Mein" Kampf. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

hopefan

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2022, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 16, 2022, 08:40:32 AM
Yesterday, I mentioned Principia's Jake Kampf and his 3 point shooting abilities....and my frustrations that the Prin offense didn't seem to gear much towards getting him the ball on the perimeter..
Last night against Fontbonne, Kampf goes 5 for 7 from the 3 point range... raising his season 3 point % to 45.5%, which puts him in the top 10 of D3....Crazier yet, his 3 point % in conference games is 54.2%... a number, that if it were for all games, would be FAR ahead of any D3 shooter's stats.. No 1 in the country

Kampf is not the type of player who can create shots with offensive moves... it's off the ball movement and cooperation from teammates with screens and skip passes, and penetration and dish situations.



I'm glad that the kid is the type of player who is dependent upon his teammates to get him scoring opportunities. It'd be a shame if he had to go through his playing days with the nickname Jake "Mein" Kampf. ;)

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The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

WUPHF

Quote from: hopefan on February 16, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Nice % comparison... but you forgot to mention Kampf has 4 times the total 3 point shots that Jacob has and 5 times the conference 3 point shots.....

That is an interesting point.

How many does a player have to make before the comparison is worth making?

Hardy has been around 44% all season with 29 made three-pointers compared to 59 by Kampf.

Interesting.

You should call the Principia coach and discuss.  He may appreciate the perspective.

hopefan

Quote from: WUPHF on February 16, 2022, 03:01:03 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 16, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Nice % comparison... but you forgot to mention Kampf has 4 times the total 3 point shots that Jacob has and 5 times the conference 3 point shots.....

That is an interesting point.

How many does a player have to make before the comparison is worth making?

Hardy has been around 44% all season with 29 made three-pointers compared to 59 by Kampf.

Interesting.

You should call the Principia coach and discuss.  He may appreciate the perspective.

WUPIFFF... I'm trying to keep this room interesting.... your sarcasm doesn't help....

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WUPHF

I'll be honest, I was 100% serious about calling the coach.  I have sat next to you enough times to know that you still know a lot about the game.  Infinitely more than I do. 

There are only two or three employees at most institutions that knows how to coach basketball.  That can lead to blind spots.  Maybe he does seek advice from others, but maybe not.

That call might be a lot of fun.

If you are interested in keeping this otherwise quiet room interesting, it is time to start posting more through at least the end of next week.  Maybe you can get the Eureka coach out of hibernation.

hopefan

Coach Mitchell gets No 300 as Westmin gets the upset over Blackburn!!!

And Greenville shocks Eureka....
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hopefan

Nice to see SLIAC.org Recognize Westminster Coach Matt Mitchell for career win No. 300!!!

Now... next step.... Coach Mitchell now sits at a career record of 300 - 300.  One regular season game left, against conference leader Fontbonne...
Fontbonne is clearly the best team in the SLIAC, but the teams are close to evenly matched from the top of the conference to the bottom (see 8th place Greenville knocking off 2nd place Eureka 2 days ago).. Westminster can be competitive in this game, and an upset win would assure Coach Mitchell of a .500 career record, no matter what happens in the conference tourney.   

Now then... one other solution... Mitch retires today at 300-300, new Head Coach Todd Creal starts tomorrow at Fontbonne ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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hopefan

From the little I've seen this year (limited to internet)... I was thinking about the SLIAC MVP for the 21-22 season...

I came up with 5 candidates
Caden Clark   Fontbonne
Clark Davidson   Prin
Ian Milsteadt  Eureka
Logan Dorethy  Eureka
Christian Stewart Spalding

I passed by Elijah Rice because I feel Caden Clark is most responsible for Fontbonne's 1st place finish in conference
Webster, Westminster, Greenville and Blackburn offered no logical candidates...

There are 3 big men in the group...Davidson couldn't keep a good start by Prin going, and Stewart and Spalding were inconsistent, so I will eliminate those 2.

That leaves Clark, an outstanding floor leader.... Dorethy, the best offensive big man in the conference, and Milsteadt an athletic exciting player to watch...I NEVER agree with coaches voting, and always acknowledge they know far better than me.... wonder if one of my final 3 (obviously hedging my bet this year) will be selected by the coaches.... ??? ???







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WUPHF

The Webster Women are getting more and more local press: https://fox2now.com/sports/eyes-on-the-prize-webster-university-womens-hoops-team-focused-on-ncaa-championship/

The goal is the national championship.

In regards to the player of the year, it is crazy to me that one might think the championship team has one POY candidate while the team a few games back has two.  Clark is good, but not that good that he is doing it all alone.

Elijah Rice leads the team in scoring with 16 points per game (50% from the field) and is second in rebounding with 7 rebounds per game.  His ability to defend and create offense for others...  Rice has to be on the short list whether you prefer stats or film to make the call.

hopefan

Quote from: WUPHF on February 18, 2022, 01:37:26 PM
The Webster Women are getting more and more local press: https://fox2now.com/sports/eyes-on-the-prize-webster-university-womens-hoops-team-focused-on-ncaa-championship/

The goal is the national championship.

In regards to the player of the year, it is crazy to me that one might think the championship team has one POY candidate while the team a few games back has two.  Clark is good, but not that good that he is doing it all alone.

Elijah Rice leads the team in scoring with 16 points per game (50% from the field) and is second in rebounding with 7 rebounds per game.  His ability to defend and create offense for others...  Rice has to be on the short list whether you prefer stats or film to make the call.

No qualms with your argument.... I looked at Big men and chose Dorethy over Davidson and Stewart.... I looked at small forward/ shooting guard and chose Milsteadt over Rice....   No point guard compared to Clark

If I had to vote for one... Dorethy would push out Milsteadt.... Clark vs Doherthy... I go with Clark....   

As I said, coaches and I never match....  ;D ;D ;D   Josh Johnson from Webster made POY last year... I totally missed the boat on that one with him on my 2n team all conference!!!!!
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!