MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[pantherpride06]

I thought I oversaw a post about some BC players/coaches being suspended?  Can anyone shed light to this...

... sorry if i missed it.

[Beaver_SID]

Here is a game coverage written by Tom Emery for the Bc vs. Millikin Game.

BLACKBURN PUTS UP GREAT FIGHT IN LOSS AT MILLIKIN

The Blackburn College men's basketball team fought hard against adversity and produced an
outstanding effort that came up just short in an 81-74 loss at Millikin University in Decatur Saturday evening, Dec. 16.
Playing on the road with a depleted roster against a competitive opponent, Blackburn more than held their own with a hot shooting performance and a solid performance on the boards as the Beavers took Millikin down to the wire before suffering another close loss.
Blackburn jumped to an early lead and went in front 9-4 on a three-pointer from senior forward Zeb Hammond (DeSoto, Mo.) with 16:56 left in the first half before Millikin reeled off eight straight points over the next 2:52 to take a 12-9 lead.  The game went back and forth over the next several minutes and was tied at 15 after a bucket from junior forward James Bragg (Decatur, Ill.) with 10:27 left, and Blackburn still trailed by only one at 20-19 after sophomore guard Tommy Baro (Aviston, Ill.) hit a shot with 8:40 remaining.
However, Millikin looked to take control of the game and ripped off a 7-0 run over the next 1:46 to go in front by eight.  Baro hit a three with 6:40 left to cut the lead to 27-22, but Millikin continued its run and extended its lead to twelve at 36-24 with 4:46 to play in the half.
But Blackburn refused to die, and consecutive three-pointers from Hammond and Baro quickly cut the lead in half.  A jumper from senior forward Zak Allan (Gillespie, Ill.) was followed by another jumper from Hammond as Blackburn trimmed the lead to two at 36-34 with 3:05 left.  A steal by senior guard Allen Dehority (Oneida, Ill.) then set up another three from Baro as Blackburn finally took the lead at 37-36 with 2:24 remaining.
Junior forward Ryan Smith (Vandalia, Ill.) was then fouled with 39 seconds left, and he hit both shots as Blackburn scored their fifteenth straight point and took a 39-36 lead.  Millikin was fouled on their ensuing possession, and a foul shot finally broke the run as Blackburn went into halftime leading 39-37.  The big run was sparked by a sizzling performance from the field, as Blackburn was 16-of-22 in the first half, a 72.7 percentage.
Allan opened the second half with a jumper to extend the lead to four, and Blackburn still led by three at 47-44 after a basket by sophomore forward Grant Lamsargis (Hillsboro, Ill.) with 13:18 to play. Millikin scored the next five points to re-take the lead, but Lamsargis hit another shot to tie the game with 12:15 remaining.
From there, Millikin made some crucial shots and looked for the upper hand, eventually building a 59-52 lead with 8:19 to play.  However, Allan hit a jumper to cut the lead to five, and he answered a  basket from Drew Gensler with a three-pointer at 6:36 as Blackburn trailed 61-57.
Despite facing a deeper Millikin team, Blackburn still hung around and kept themselves in the game, still trailing by only six at 70-64 after another three from Baro with 3:51 to play. A jumper from Lamsargis at 2:15 inched the Beavers closer at 73-69, and a basket from Millikin's Robert Rexroade followed before Baro hit his fifth three-pointer of the evening at 1:25 as Blackburn cut the lead to 75-72.
Vincent Brock scored on the ensuing possession to put Millikin on top by five, but Hammond drilled a jumper with 49 seconds left to make the score 77-74.  But that was as close as Blackburn could get, though, as Millikin hit their foul shots down the stretch to finally hold off a spirited Blackburn effort.
Baro was 8-of-9 from the field and 5-of-6 from three-point range in scoring a career-high 21 points to go along with six rebounds and three assists.   Allan added 17 points, while Hammond scored 15 points.  Lamsargis finished the night with 14 points and six rebounds, while Smith grabbed a game-high eight boards.  Gensler led all scorers with 24 points for Millikin (5-3), which won for only the second time in their last six meetings with Blackburn.
Blackburn shot a sizzling 50 percent (9 of 18) from three-point range and finished the evening at 55.4 percent from the floor overall, compared to 52.6 percent for Millikin.  The teams tied the battle of the boards, with each team getting 26 rebounds.
The loss dropped Blackburn's record to 2-6, although many of the early-season games could have went either way.  Three of the losses have been by single digits, including a last-second loss to Robert Morris on Nov. 29 and an 81-72 defeat at Eureka on Dec. 6 that was not decided until late.
Blackburn's next game is at the University of Missouri - St. Louis, an NCAA Division II program, on Saturday, Dec. 30 at 7 p.m.

[Beaver_SID]

Pride-

Yes BC went into the Millikin Game 3 players and an assistant coach down. Two of the players being starters, Leotis Howard and Bryan Waters. Waters, Bundren, and Asst. Coach Todd Stevens were suspended due to disciplinary action, and Howard was instructed not to play due to personal issues I'd rather not mention on the board.

[pantherpride06]

No problem Beaver_SID.

After being bombared in the last big topic blaster on this board, I hate to get involved on this one, but I will.  I will agree that its a little easier being a STL school to recruit because of drawing kids to St. Louis.  We try to do that being in Greenville and exately 45 miles from STL, but it doesn't work with alot of the kids we highly recruit.

Tuition also hampers us a little.  Some of that deals with being a priviate christian school and that's our deal.  We just have to work with that.  Money was one of the reasons we lost Matt Greene to SIU-E (not playing ball).  He comes from a small So. Illinois family that doesnt have alot of money.  That is the problem with some of the better players. 

What someone is going to say is FASFA should help with alot of that and it does.  It cost me more to go to Greenville because I came from French Lick, Indiana.  But, even with FASFA stuff, it still cost.  I am paying back nearly 24,000 for my four years at Greenville.  I did some research.  Here is the cost in order from most expensive to cheapest of schools in the SLIAC.

1. Principia - $30,225 
2. Maryville (Mo.) - $25,916
3. Greenville - $24,068
4. Fontbonne - $22,720
5. Westminster - $22,490
6. MacMurray - $21,828
7. Eureka - $20,450
8. Webster - $18,240
9. Lincoln Christian - $17,330
10. Blackburn - $17,287 (Work School)
(Information found via school websites)

So, I'm not sure if that helps anyone out when it comes to finance and this topic.  St. Louis schools rank 2, 4, and 8 on the list of most expensive.  With Webster being at 8th, I could say it's easier to get kids there because it's not as expensive.  I'm sure Missouri kids and some Metro East kids get a in-state break on that as well.

My stance:  It's a little easier for STL schools to get kids, but not a ton.  We are all fightning with your State Schools like UofI, SLU, SIU, SIUE, UMSL, UM, etc. where tuition is alot cheaper.  With no scholarships, we have to get kids to our schools by how much they like us, buy into the program, buy into the school, and see if the program is/can be successful.

Any Thoughts?  Gregory, mark me up!

[fcnews]

You can question Fontbonne's program about alot of things. There is one stat that is un questionable and that is the fact that this program gets it's student-atletes into "Cap and Robes'. At this level isn't that the most important? I have enclosed the latest (that I could find) USAToday/NCAA Academic Achievements. FU ranks 8th among all DIII institutes in the category of graduation rate of student-athletes above student body rate. The Athletic Department takes pride in each and every graduate.

Graduation rate
above student body rate

School  Pct. points  Athletes
University of New England +43 25
Buffalo State +39 76
St. Scholastica (Minn.) +35 58
Marywood (Pa.) +26 22
Washington (Md.) College +25 92
Fairleigh Dickinson Florham +24 101
Wells (N.Y.) College +24 22
Fontbonne (Mo.) +22 37
Rust (Miss.) +21 60
Hood (Md.) College +21 29
St. Joseph's (CT) +21 20


Thanks to Pantherpride and the Commish for the emails. I do understand the importance of having reps from all schools on this board. I also know how long it's taken. This site is the quickest source of news , when it comes to getting scores during the conference race. I also understand there may be a WC rep coming aboard. I will attempt to get a rep from Fontbonne to continue to post scores.

Happy Holidays to ALL and Safe Travels

[Mac Attack]

Nice to hear from you again, fcnews. You are 100% correct about graduation rates. That should be the #1 priority of every institution of higher learning. Fontbonne certainly should be proud of its standing in this area, among many others.

Now we need you to put your Pick 'em uniform back on and continue to show the rest of us just how much you know about the SLIAC basketball teams.

[ballhog01]

Wow! At Prin you must be paying for the bluff view.

[y_jack_lok]

pantherpride06, I don't know what the figures you posted for other schools include. However, the figure you posted for Webster is tuition only. Housing is between $2,200 and $2,600 per semester. Meal plans range from $1,580 to $1,980 per semster. Assuming an undergraduate athlete lives on campus and has the least expensive housing and meal arrangements, the annual cost jumps to $25,800 ($18,240 for tuition, $4,400 for housing, $3,160 for meals).

Assuming the figures you provided for all the other schools include tuition, room, and board, that jumps Webster from #8 to #3 on the list. It's all on one page on the link below. Just scroll down the entire page to see all the info.

http://www.webster.edu/about/facts/tuition.shtml

[Mac Attack]

This is nice. A quote from one of the posters in the NAC room:

"Side Note: Rockford's Coach, Fans, and Players (#22 the most) have the worst sportsmanship in the conference. The cheap shots that their guys gave could have easily caused injury. The language to the refers should be unacceptable. I was disappointed with the college; maybe it is a good thing that the school might not last that much longer."

Rockford will be MacMurray's opponent on January 3, our first home game after the two-game trip to Georgia. Hopefully the referees will be ready for any kind of rough-housing and cheap shots, and not let the game get out of hand or anyone get hurt. Hate to hear about teams/players that are headhunters - but players will go as fas as a coach will let them go. If/when you see a team/players out of control, you probably will find a coach that's out of control. One usually follows the other. I haven't seen that in the SLIAC and hope I never do.

[Gregory Sager]

This is nice. A quote from one of the posters in the NAC room:

"Side Note: Rockford's Coach, Fans, and Players (#22 the most) have the worst sportsmanship in the conference. The cheap shots that their guys gave could have easily caused injury. The language to the refers should be unacceptable. I was disappointed with the college; maybe it is a good thing that the school might not last that much longer."

Rockford will be MacMurray's opponent on January 3, our first home game after the two-game trip to Georgia. Hopefully the referees will be ready for any kind of rough-housing and cheap shots, and not let the game get out of hand or anyone get hurt. Hate to hear about teams/players that are headhunters - but players will go as fas as a coach will let them go. If/when you see a team/players out of control, you probably will find a coach that's out of control. One usually follows the other. I haven't seen that in the SLIAC and hope I never do.

I didn't see any evidence whatsoever of cheap-shot tactics by Rockford when they played NPU. That post in the NAthC room may have simply been the venting of a frustrated Maranatha Baptist fan.

Wow! At Prin you must be paying for the bluff view.

Well, you're certainly not paying for the health service. 

[pantherpride06]

Great seeing a post from ya FCNews.  Great information with the graduation rates on athletes in DIII schools.  No arguments there.

[Mac Attack]

Thanks for your insight, Sager. We now have one person who thought Rockford's team and coach acted like thugs and one guy who says he saw nothing of the sort. We'll find out on January 3 which view was closer to the truth.

Nice to see the SLIAC website updated to include all teams and their stats, although they're missing the MacMurray-Grinnell game stats (not sure if that's the good news or bad news). Highlanders had a lot of "numbers" in that game, good and not so good, so including that game will change several categories. With Mac playing games on December 29 & 30, I would guess several of the Mac players will move up quite a bit in the individual (and team) statistical categories.

Man, are there some big SLIAC games the first two weeks of the season. A lot of teams can make their mark during this time, one way or the other. MacMurray has a chance to really establish itself as a play-off contender with a good start, as do several other teams. Should be a real battle among 7-8 teams, and I still think Lincoln Christian will sneak up on someone once or twice....

[hopefan]

Mac,   LCC already "almost" snuck up on one contender...

[pantherpride06]

lol

[sliaccommish]

Gregory Sager owes Principia College, and the millions of Christian Scientists in the world, an apology for taking a shot at their most fundamental religous belief, ("Well, you're certainly not paying for health service").

I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it, but it certainly took a shot at one of our school's religous principles.

Principia provides contracted medical sevices for all visiting teams; their own student-athletes' injuries are treated according to their religous principles. That should be respected, rather than made light of.