MBB: St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[y_jack_lok]

Thanks for that info, BunchTime. I'm assuming the 8 juniors and 5 seniors includes some of the community college plyers coming in, as the '06-'07 roster shows only 4 juniors (to be seniors) and 4 sophomores (to be juniors) listed. I am not including Benny Roberts, who did not play last year, and Shawn Nichoalds, who is listed as a junior, but was really a senior and was honored as such on senior night and at the sports award event in May.

Hoggatt, Kuhn, and Turk will form the nucleus of the team with Stiegemeir, Whitcomb, Kyle Regan, Steve Hrdlicka, and Brad Robinson all bringing ample experience.

Do you know if Benny Roberts plans to play this year?

[pantherpride06]

Well, as it pertains to scheduling, I have our Non-Conference schedule.  I know we are going to get bashed for it so I'm not going to talk too much more about it.

Home v. Uni. of Dubuque (14-10 Last Season)
Away at McKendree (We've beat them 1 time since 1958, played 87 games)
Away at North Central (16-10 Last Season)
Home v. Logan College
Home v. Concordia (StL)
Away at Harris-Stowe
Home v. St. Louis Christian

As it pertains to my job search, I am headed to Rhode Island on Monday for a job interview and I have a phone interview today w/ Pudet Sound.

[fcnews]

Trevor White was released from the hospital today. Alot of healing but no major damage. Thanks for the messages.

I do know a few of the Webster recruits. Arend is the son of a Wash U proffessor. Mother is two years away from tuition reimbursement. Wash U was his first choice and I think that's where he'll finally end up. Not a difference maker this year.

Summer league news: Last thursday night in action at FU. Webster 52 FU 50. Webster had full turnout of returners and alot on the above list. FU had Branch and Levette. Newcommers that looked good were Rapp at the point and the kid from Vianney is very athletic. Levette was unstoppable inside, but still tries to do to much at times. Rapp handles the ball well and plays good defense. Kind of on the small side for my likings, but will see time quickly.

[fcnews]

As a past member of the coaching community, I offer my apologies to those kids that signed with U. of Florida since the coach turned down the Kentucky job. This is one of the worst situations the NCAA puts an 18 year old kid into. This is very similiar to what Coach Pitino did when I was living in Lexington, KY. Win the National Title, tell Mr. Indiana BBall (in his living room) I'm staying, and then get your NBA dream job. I am a big fan of Billy the Gun. Watched him play a lot. Respect his coaching ability. I'm not a fan of this NCAA Rule.

In Summer ball action Thursday night; FU 68 WC 59 - Report I heard was both teams had about all returnees ( FU was short Fogerty and White ) and some new faces. Parker played well in the second half, he's adjusting to playing without the ball. Levette was a force for his 20 minutes. Rapp is making a big impression at the point. Storandt continues to improve his post offense. The kid from Vianney had another solid night and could work into a role player position. McCoy continues to mature.

Bunchtime thanks for the info. I will take Fogerty, Storandt, Levette, White, McCoy, Parker, Branch and say Rapp. Over any eight in the SLIAC. But hey, we're all partial.

I can't understand why old Hopefan hasn't giving us a good summer league report yet. Maybe he's to busy attending Red Alert fundraisers. Hope Thursday Night. MU, FU, WU, WC all play.

[pantherpride06]

Since I am technically a young gun with this crowd of D-III posters, I need some clarification from FC.

Tell me about the summer ball among our programs...  how does that all work?

Oh, and if anyone is in the Indianapolis area, my high school alma mater (Springs Valley) will be playing for the Softball Regional Title today at Hauser HS (Hope, IN). lol

[hopefan]

FC  -  I've either been removed from the Maryville Coach's letters or he stopped putting them out  - I have no info on the summer league schedule - Coach Myers used to get it to me  -  Where is this Thursday's session, what time  -  would be a good time for me to go - why don't we all go?  Yjak, furbug, FC, panther take a ride over.... heck, Mac Attack, come on down if you're still talking to us  ...  it would be fun to get in a hoops atmosphere again   -   FC - please let us know when and where.....

[y_jack_lok]

fc - I lived in Lexington, KY from 1981-1990. Were you there during any of those years?

Just for the record, Pitino coached one more year at Kentucky after winning the national championship, before taking the Celtics job. I think he learned from the Celtics experience that he is not cut out to be an NBA coach, since he had bombed with the Knicks before goiing to Kentucky. And the poor kids who signed with Kentcky thinking they would play for Pitino got to win a national championship in Tubby Smith's first year. But Smith couldn't do it again in 9 subsequent seasons, so he wisely took the Minnesota job, leaving Billy Gillespie in the unenviable position of taking a beating from the Lexington media.

I'll look forward to hearing about the summer hoops schedule and might try to make it sometime if other posters are going.

[fcnews]

Summer League is every Thursday Night. Three games starting I believe at 6pm. It also includes Wash U, McKendree and Meremac. It rotates between Meremac and Fontbonne, with some games at MU. I'm not sure where it is this week, but a call to one of the Athletic Offices could get you that info. Two 20 minute halfs, running clock and SLIAC refs. This is probably the 5th 0r 6th year. It was formed when NCAA discontinued allowing participation in the Anthony Bonner semi - pro league.

I was offically in Whinchester, KY. 1992-94.

I would enjoy others comments on the summer action.

[wusliac1]

I was at Fontbonne on Thurs. nite.  Gorlocks took a tough loss to Maryville 48-37, playing without Turk.  The juco kids looked pretty good for us but there were a couple of flagrant fouls called on us that were pretty big.  Kuhn played well and so did Hoggat. 

Maryville looks better- they had a kid from Illinoiss play (Cooper?  Coopman?) really good and a kid from Holt that workede hard.  Also they had another tiny kid that someone said was from Owenville but he didn't play (makes the kid they had last year look tall!).  Anyone now anything about these recruts?

[y_jack_lok]

Are the coaches of the respective schools at these summer league games, and if so are they actively coaching? If not, how does it work with timeouts, substitutions, etc, etc.?

[hopefan]

As I remember, coaches do not coach or sit on the bench - in fact the home coach at times will end up running thescoreboard  -  usually a senior member of the team or perhaps an alum ends up coaching.  It's really not much more than playground hoops, but still entertaining to see the familiar faces as well as the new ones.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I would assume that coaches would be in deep doo-doo with the NCAA if they coached out-of-season.

[y_jack_lok]

That's what I was thinking, too, which is why I asked the question.

Does anyone think any cerdibility should be given to the scores of these games? Does it really say anything about what might happen in the regular season? Seems like the main benefit is keeping in shape and not letting your game get too rusty, seeing what some of the new guys look like, and giving the officials the chance to keep in practice, too. Do the officials get paid for these games?

[fcnews]

Coaches can watch from the stands. Summer league is good for the kids to work on their game. In some cases it is working on a new positions ie; Parker for FU. In most cases it's to see the newbies and let them get aquainted with the squad.

The kid from Owensville was interested in FU. He was a prolific scorer in H.S., but didn't play the best of competition. He is awfully small for even the SLIAC. I don't see a 5'5 shooting guard making a huge impact. I have been wrong before.

[hopefan]

The summer league schedule is played at Fontbonne this week - Thursday
    NOTE -THE GAMES HAVE BEEN MOVED TO MERRIMAC CC


6:30  Fontbonne - Merrimac

7:30  Westminster  -  Webster

8:30  Maryville  -  Mo Bap

I'm thinking I will go  -  hope to see the rest of the posters....

The new frosh at Maryville are:

Ben Koopman Red Bud  -  averaged 15 per game, shot well, 6"0"

Chris collins  -  Owensville - 16.5 per game, only 5"6"  -  hard to see how it could work at that size

Chris McClaren - Holt - 6'5"   6 ppg, 7 rebounds

Chris Hahn Campbell Mo  -  tiny outstate school  6'5"

Drew Taylor  Lafayette  6'5"   Didn't play much behind Tyler Griffey

Also, Matt Baker, who played at Maryville two years ago, but stayed in Colorado this last year, is returning  6'8"  -  he got some good minutes as a frosh as Bash was physically hurting and Klein was always in trouble, but missing last year likely will hurt the progress he was making.  He's an active kid in the middle who could help.