MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[chmarx]

I'm surprised.

[Hoops Junkie]

Hoop Dirt is saying Eric Gardow to UWEC and that he has all kinds of support from alumni,

would not be surprised to see Matt Siverling go after it, at UWEC.

[oldgold]

As an alumni I can say that I don't think Gardow has much support.

[Just Bill]

UW-La Crosse cited by the NCAA for three major violations...

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/04/uw-lacrosse-cited-for-infraction

[chmarx]

The Chancellor sent an email to the campus community announcing this.

Its pretty embarrassing.

[Gregory Sager]

I didn't see postseason sanctions listed among the conditions of probation, so UWL might've gotten off easy in that regard, especially since that's what really would've had a major impact upon recruiting. But, since these infractions date back twenty years or more, it makes you wonder. UWL ranks third overall in both D3 team national championships and D3 individual national championships. Are any of them tainted now?

[chmarx]

The major problem is the length of time.  There were problems with scholarship distribution not being sufficiently separated from the athletic programs.  In addition, they considered athletic participation as evidence of leadership, inappropriately for D3.

UWL has agreed to make changes in the way scholarships are awarded, insulating the process from athletics.  Provided we comply, further sanctions are not expected.

As far as any tainting of our successes, I'll leave that to others.  It seems likely that the infractions conferred an advantage on some of our teams, but I'm not sure how significant it was.

[Pat Coleman]

I think we would be disappointed to learn how many institutions have similar issues in terms of leadership in athletics being a consideration. This has seemed to be a big disconnect with admissions departments and the Division III philosophy.

[lacrossefan]

I'm a little confused as to what qulifies for leadership examples if athletics cannot be considered. I certainly hope it is not student government because we all know where politics lead to. Being in the business world, I have rarely seen superior leadership skills shown by those in the arts (music, art, etc.) So, if athletics cannot be considered, what is available to be judged on? Or does one only go on grades???

[hickory_cornhusker]

I've always questioned why athletic leadership can't be a consideration for a leadership scholarship. If every student is eligible for the scholarship then athletic leadership is another way to measure the student. Thinking back to my high school class I would estimate around one-third of the athletic team captains my senior year went on to play college athletics so being a captain in high school doesn't guarantee intercollegiate athletic participation. As long as it is only a part of the assessment for the scholarship and the scholarship is open to all students and not dependent on the future athletic participation of the student where is the problem in that? I understand how this could be abused but there are countless things that are allowed that are open to possible abuses. The scholarship dollars of athletes vs. non-athletes would still have to line-up so you could only abuse it so much without the NCAA auditing the school.

[chmarx]

I think you guys are being a little naive.  There are other ways an applicant can demonstrate leadership.  Until recently, I screened applicants for military academies.  Certainly many demonstrated leadership through athletics, but there were many other, better ways.

La Crosse Fan, get real.  Do you think Washington, Lincoln, and the Roosevelts showed any leadership?

[linde4]

I'm a little confused as to what qulifies for leadership examples if athletics cannot be considered. I certainly hope it is not student government because we all know where politics lead to. Being in the business world, I have rarely seen superior leadership skills shown by those in the arts (music, art, etc.) So, if athletics cannot be considered, what is available to be judged on? Or does one only go on grades???

This needs a lot of work, LaXfan...  Look, I'm a huge sports fan, too and as a long time A.D. myself, I see kids on the playing field demonstrating great leadership traits all the time.  But I also see the exact same traits exhibited by our drum majors in the marching band, the lead roles in the musical, and our National honor society inductees each school year that either played a few (or a lot of) sports, or sometimes none at all, etc., etc.  Personally, this sports nut (me) believes that leadership is simply "the act of guiding others by actions, words and other mediums toward common goals or other end results."  Might be too basic of a definition, but it is certainly needed in athletics, and certainly exists almost everywhere else in school. 

Most applications for these scholarships are fairly comprehensive.  I would say that if true leadership occured, the leader should be able to document what sort of leadership took place, and how it happened.

I've known a few "captains" of athletic teams never say a word during a full season.  So to me, putting on the jersey, or attaching the title on a resume means little if you can support true, authentic leadership.  Anyway, back to the WIAC.  How'd we get on this anyway?  Oh yeah, my Alma Mater and their oops!... 

[chmarx]

There isn't a lot going on in the college basketball world as well.

[wcbsas]

As noted on D3 hoops front page* - UWEC's Kyle Green to step down after one year at the helm:

http://blugolds.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120405ch3b9u

*I didn't recognize him in the photo that accompanies the coaching carousel story, so I didn't click on the story there. My mistake....

I am surprised this hasn't generated more discussion.  I wonder truly what the reasons are behind such a move after only one year on the job.  All of the sudden I have major concerns about Kyle Green.  Leaves a D1 assistant position (Marquette) for D2 head coaching position (Lewis University) leaving it for a D1 assistant position (Northern Iowa) leaving it for a D3 head coaching position.

His tenure at any one of those positions was limited at best to 3 years.

He's a native of Minnesota so how can Iowa be home (unless its his wife's).

[John Gleich]

As noted on D3 hoops front page* - UWEC's Kyle Green to step down after one year at the helm:

http://blugolds.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120405ch3b9u

*I didn't recognize him in the photo that accompanies the coaching carousel story, so I didn't click on the story there. My mistake....

I am surprised this hasn't generated more discussion.  I wonder truly what the reasons are behind such a move after only one year on the job.  All of the sudden I have major concerns about Kyle Green.  Leaves a D1 assistant position (Marquette) for D2 head coaching position (Lewis University) leaving it for a D1 assistant position (Northern Iowa) leaving it for a D3 head coaching position.

His tenure at any one of those positions was limited at best to 3 years.

He's a native of Minnesota so how can Iowa be home (unless its his wife's).

That reminds you of a certain former WIAC assistant who bounced around and didn't stay in one spot for very long...

I wonder, where ever Green ends up, if he takes any players with him.  My guess would be no.


... perhaps that's not fair to all parties involved.