MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DMJSports]

Hello havej,

As far as plus/minus and (Heuer, Morrissey & Hortman):
11) Heuer        +192
20) Morrissey   +145
23) Hortman    +137

From a team impact perspective, here are the top 10:
1) 17.9ppg Bronson Byrne, Superior
2) 15.4ppg Josh Kosloske, Stout
3) 14.4ppg Ollie White, River Falls (only 9 games)
3) 14.4ppg Jeff Heiden, La Crosse
5) 13.3ppg Andre Wallace, Oshkosh
6) 12.2ppg David Stanley, River Falls
7) 10.8ppg Cale Zuiker, La Crosse
8) 8.7ppg Jade Royston, Oshkosh
9) 8.6ppg Tyler Tillema, Steven Point (only 9 games)
9) 8.6ppg Alex Oman, Stout


badgerwarhawk and doolittledog,

I guess I am more positive on these stats :->.  They highlight trends which may not be intuitively obvious.... completely objective based on actual game data and measure team performance with players in and out of the lineup.  Great info for a coach to review and act on (or ignore) as he/she sees fit.

[havej]

dmj - thank you much for the analytics, seems that we get too caught up in individual stats when evaluating players.  What does Byrne's 17.9 ppg impact really signify? 

Do you sell your service since my son is a high school coach and would greatly benefit from your information.

Also, interestingly enough, the prior discussion about the league's best pg shouldn't have been restricted to Olson / Young as neither cracked the top 10.

[DMJSports]

Hello havej,

Byrne's 17.9ppg means Superior outscores its opponents at a rate of 17.9ppg more when Byrne is on the floor than when he is on the bench.

Yes, I sell custom reports for coaches but need a level of detail for the analysis that high school games don't typically keep.  I am also working on software that will allow HS games to record this level of detail, but it is not available yet.  College and NBA teams already offer the level of detail needed for this type of analysis.

[havej]

DMJ - interested to know how each 1st team all conference player measures out - do you have that easily accessible?    Surprised the MOP Cross doesn't rate higher - I guess stats sometimes misleading

And again thank you - understand that the level of stat keeping not nearly adequate on the high school level.

[badgerwarhawk]

badgerwarhawk and doolittledog,

I guess I am more positive on these stats :->. They highlight trends which may not be intuitively obvious.... completely objective based on actual game data and measure team performance with players in and out of the lineup.  Great info for a coach to review and act on (or ignore) as he/she sees fit.

That would explain why you know what an algorithm is and I haven't a clue. 

[uww4ever]

Does anyone know why they aren't doing Friday/Saturday matches for the first two rounds for the men's tourney?

[Pat Coleman]

Does anyone know why they aren't doing Friday/Saturday matches for the first two rounds for the men's tourney?

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2012/07/2013-tournament-spread-out

[DMJSports]

havej,

Keep in mind the algorithm is measuring the player's impact on the team.  Hence, a very strong player on a good team might not have the impact on a team that a decent player on a bad team.  So, using these numbers across teams is tricky.  An analogy here is a guy who is absolutely the most impactful player on a mediocre-to-weak team may not be as strong of a player as the second best player on the strongest team in the league, but his impact rating will be of bigger magnitude.

Cross' numbers are very good but the reason he doesn't stick out in the analysis is because in the 270 minutes his team played without him, they did pretty darn well.  Hence, the contrast between him in and out was negligible.  With Cross on the floor, Platteville scoring rate increased about 3.4ppg, but the opposition scoring rate also increased about 4.4ppg.  The data indicates Platteville actually outscored the opposition at a rate of 1.0 more points per game when Cross was not on the court.   A plausible explanation could be the coach took Cross out with games in hand and the opposition demoralized or with weaker lineups...but 270 minutes is a decent sample rate.

[bulk19]

Cue up the Jeopardy theme song as the waiting begins for the Pointers and perhaps the Blue Devils, as we await the outcome of the UWP vs. UWW game, and the rest of the D3 teams to sort things out...

Another candidate for the all-conference team is UWL's Lucas Morrissey...

Ahem, ahem... note the Morrissey pick here. I would have kicked your guys' butts in the fantasy league! 

[havej]

DMJ - interesting stats on Cross, surprised he isn't statistically more impactful.  270 minutes is a decent sample as you state, approximates to 25% of their schedule.  So maybe Cross was the MOP, but not necessarily the MVP.

[Just Bill]

Whoa. WIAC men may be moving from the West Region to the Midwest Region which will then be renamed the Central Region (which matches the WBB terminology)...

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2013/02/regional-realignment-coming

That will be quite a balance of power shift with the WIAC and CCIW sharing a region.

[tomt4525]

Whoa. WIAC men may be moving from the West Region to the Midwest Region which will then be renamed the Central Region (which matches the WBB terminology)...

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2013/02/regional-realignment-coming

That will be quite a balance of power shift with the WIAC and CCIW sharing a region.

Wow, that is huge news...I can't imagine any region will come close to the Midwest Region in terms of talent if the WIAC and CCIW are together.  I always thought it was weird Point was in the West Region but after following D3 basketball longer it was kind of a balance of power.

[hoops2]

The change in region would be interesting.  Don't always get to see the better teams in the CCIW so this might allow for that.  I would hope it means and easier time finding non-conference games.  I guess that remains to be seen.  Did I read that correct, it would start in the 2014-15 season?

[Greek Tragedy]

I honestly just skimmed through it, but what about administrative regions?

If that's the case, games involving CCIW and WIAC teams shouldn't increase simply because they'll be in the same region since Wisconsin and Illinois are already in the same administrative region. 

At first thought, not sure how much this really effects the WIAC if administrative regions are still in place.  There are plenty of teams in Wisconsin that are in the current Midwest Region that WIAC teams played and they were all in-region since they were all in Wisconsin.  Same with teams from Illinois.  I don't think the WIAC has really had much trouble scheduling in-region games.  If Minnesota teams stay in the West Region, but Minnesota is still in Wisconsin's administrative region, West sided teams like River Falls, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior should still have no problem scheduling games.

[Gregory Sager]

I honestly just skimmed through it, but what about administrative regions?

If that's the case, games involving CCIW and WIAC teams shouldn't increase simply because they'll be in the same region since Wisconsin and Illinois are already in the same administrative region. 

At first thought, not sure how much this really effects the WIAC if administrative regions are still in place.  There are plenty of teams in Wisconsin that are in the current Midwest Region that WIAC teams played and they were all in-region since they were all in Wisconsin.  Same with teams from Illinois.  I don't think the WIAC has really had much trouble scheduling in-region games.  If Minnesota teams stay in the West Region, but Minnesota is still in Wisconsin's administrative region, West sided teams like River Falls, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior should still have no problem scheduling games.

it probably won't affect scheduling much, if at all. The big effect will be upon regional rankings. The CCIW and WIAC will now be competing for the same ranking slots.